Remove Denuvo please?

[FRIENDLY MAN]

I saw this on sale and would have bought it if it weren't for Denuvo. If the devs aren't planning to release any more paid dlc's they should remove it as soon as possible.

[FRIENDLY MAN]

CaptainRansom a écrit :

SUPERIOR MAN OF WONGUS WORDS a écrit :

Not true. The vast majority of pirated games that have been cracked with Denuvo still have Denuvo present.

But a lot Companys remove Denuvo when >

A: someone cracked their Game > like Metro Exodus - was cracked x Days after release. And they removed it after a while.

B: a lot Companys remove Denuvo after 1 Year ( like Resident Evil )

Yeah, its typically western companies that have that approach.

[lumina]

Genuine Prodigy a écrit :

󠀡󠀡 a écrit :

i would have bought it if it didn't have denuvo.

denuvo and drm in general is a unnecessary inconvenience. the devs of cyberpunk 2077 offered a drm free version in their gog game store and it still broke digital sales records "It had the biggest digital game launch of all time, selling 10.2 million digital units" and reached 4th place in steam charts for having 830,387 concurrent players on steam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk_2077#Sales
https://steamcharts.com/

this shows drm is not needed and is unnecessary to punish paying customers. what really matters is making a good game and offer a good deal, no microtransactions, separating content that should have been included in the game at launch bs.

Do you think it was because it didn't have DRM or because it was a massively hyped game for several years to the point that anything about the game became the gaming news of the day?

Besides it's crazy to me that people want a DRM-free game, then buy it on Steam. Steam is a form of DRM. It needs to be activated on steam, it needs to be played on Steam (offline or online), and if Steam dies -- your collection dies. Yes, Steam is less drastic than Denuvo, but if people are arguing purely from a DRM-free standpoint then it's irony at it's finest.

People did argue that and complain about Steam for the first 10 years. Then people just decided to deal with it, or got used to it.

I complained about it they came out with Steam and the entire idea around this platform. I played a lot of CS in those days though and had to get Steam as 1.6 was only on Steam and all of the cs leagues/tournaments required you to update. And to this day, this is mostly the only platform like this I use, though I use it a lot. I never use things like Origin or Battle.net. I either play those games on PS4 or skip them.

[Leon]

Yeah, I want to buy it too but I hate Denuvo more than the game, good game as it is.

[LemonRush7777]

Genuine Prodigy a écrit :

󠀡󠀡 a écrit :

i would have bought it if it didn't have denuvo.

denuvo and drm in general is a unnecessary inconvenience. the devs of cyberpunk 2077 offered a drm free version in their gog game store and it still broke digital sales records "It had the biggest digital game launch of all time, selling 10.2 million digital units" and reached 4th place in steam charts for having 830,387 concurrent players on steam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk_2077#Sales
https://steamcharts.com/

this shows drm is not needed and is unnecessary to punish paying customers. what really matters is making a good game and offer a good deal, no microtransactions, separating content that should have been included in the game at launch bs.

Do you think it was because it didn't have DRM or because it was a massively hyped game for several years to the point that anything about the game became the gaming news of the day?

Besides it's crazy to me that people want a DRM-free game, then buy it on Steam. Steam is a form of DRM. It needs to be activated on steam, it needs to be played on Steam (offline or online), and if Steam dies -- your collection dies. Yes, Steam is less drastic than Denuvo, but if people are arguing purely from a DRM-free standpoint then it's irony at it's finest.

Incorrect. Steam is a storefront that also has an OPTIONAL DRM solution for the devs to enable. A lot of games in Steam dont have that and can be copied from their directory to a USB Drive and you can run it from there, or archive is like you would any GOG game.

Also, Valve has earned the trust of a lot of people, and like you said yourself their DRM is pretty non-invasive. Considering most people always leave their Steam on in the background, its essentially a non-issue.

The point here is that DRM is a solution to prevent the initial window of sale from suffering due to piracy, but on an old as hell game that is no longer relevant. There would be no loss from deactivating it now as an act of goodwill for the actual potential consumers.

[MENTOR]

Every time this game goes on sale or gets DLC, I always check to see if Denuvo is still attached to it.

And every time I find that Denuvo is still there, I move my hand off of the 'Add to Cart' button.

Bandai/Namco really needs to follow Capcom's lead here and just dump this ♥♥♥♥ after the game's been out for 6m+.

[caelcyndar5]

MENTOR a écrit :

Every time this game goes on sale or gets DLC, I always check to see if Denuvo is still attached to it.

And every time I find that Denuvo is still there, I move my hand off of the 'Add to Cart' button.

Bandai/Namco really needs to follow Capcom's lead here and just dump this ♥♥♥♥ after the game's been out for 6m+.

Heh, Mad Max has been cracked for 4+ YEARS, has Denuvo free versions on Origin AND GoG AND the Steam version is STILL infected with it (ABZU has had a Denuvo free version on GoG for 3 YEARS going off the first review and ONLY just recently got around to removing Denuvo on Steam).

[Lord Dazed & Insane]

SUPERIOR MAN OF WONGUS WORDS a écrit :

I saw this on sale and would have bought it if it weren't for Denuvo. If the devs aren't planning to release any more paid dlc's they should remove it as soon as possible.

Glad I noticed this. Stopped me from buying the game. TY!

[xoxxxoooxo]

󠀡󠀡 a écrit :

i would have bought it if it didn't have denuvo.

denuvo and drm in general is a unnecessary inconvenience. the devs of cyberpunk 2077 offered a drm free version in their gog game store and it still broke digital sales records "It had the biggest digital game launch of all time, selling 10.2 million digital units" and reached 4th place in steam charts for having 830,387 concurrent players on steam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk_2077#Sales
https://steamcharts.com/

this shows drm is not needed and is unnecessary to punish paying customers. what really matters is making a good game and offer a good deal, no microtransactions, separating content that should have been included in the game at launch bs.

cyberpunk is the worst example to use for anything positive. it broke sales records off the goodwill built from the witcher 3.

witcher 3 is a much more appropriate example of what you describe

[Ruhenot]

Whats so bad about Denuvo?
I legit dont know, not trying to defend it.

[lukaself]

Ruhenot a écrit :

Whats so bad about Denuvo?
I legit dont know, not trying to defend it.

You just stepped on a landmine. DON'T MOVE A MUSCLE.

I jest of course but do consider reading the related PC gaming wiki article then decide if you think it's a problem to you. You won't get any unbiased answer in these forums.
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Denuvo#Denuvo_Anti-Tamper

[InkyBlitz]

Genuine Prodigy a écrit :

󠀡󠀡 a écrit :

i would have bought it if it didn't have denuvo.

denuvo and drm in general is a unnecessary inconvenience. the devs of cyberpunk 2077 offered a drm free version in their gog game store and it still broke digital sales records "It had the biggest digital game launch of all time, selling 10.2 million digital units" and reached 4th place in steam charts for having 830,387 concurrent players on steam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk_2077#Sales
https://steamcharts.com/

this shows drm is not needed and is unnecessary to punish paying customers. what really matters is making a good game and offer a good deal, no microtransactions, separating content that should have been included in the game at launch bs.

Do you think it was because it didn't have DRM or because it was a massively hyped game for several years to the point that anything about the game became the gaming news of the day?

Besides it's crazy to me that people want a DRM-free game, then buy it on Steam. Steam is a form of DRM. It needs to be activated on steam, it needs to be played on Steam (offline or online), and if Steam dies -- your collection dies. Yes, Steam is less drastic than Denuvo, but if people are arguing purely from a DRM-free standpoint then it's irony at it's finest.

Not all Steam games have Steam DRM, and besides it's easy to crack if you don't want to use Steam. Denuvo also actively punishes players by slightly tanking performance. I also straight up do not want to support games that use Denuvo. Capcom is smart enough to remove that crap a year or so after their game's release, why can't Bamco be the same?

[nasty diabolical guy]

just remove it ffs. I wanna buy this gem.

[Ruhenot]

lukaself a écrit :

Ruhenot a écrit :

Whats so bad about Denuvo?
I legit dont know, not trying to defend it.

You just stepped on a landmine. DON'T MOVE A MUSCLE. :clickbutton:

I jest of course but do consider reading the related PC gaming wiki article then decide if you think it's a problem to you. You won't get any unbiased answer in these forums.
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Denuvo#Denuvo_Anti-Tamper

Thank you!

[Useless Bunny]

raemun a écrit :

just remove it ffs. I wanna buy this gem.

You already bought it. You do know that the little mouse icon next to your name in here indicates you own the game, right? What are you trying to roleplay here exactly?

[Diamond Falcon]

SUPERIOR MAN OF WONGUS WORDS a écrit :

CaptainRansom a écrit :

But a lot Companys remove Denuvo when >

A: someone cracked their Game > like Metro Exodus - was cracked x Days after release. And they removed it after a while.

B: a lot Companys remove Denuvo after 1 Year ( like Resident Evil )

Yeah, its typically western companies that have that approach.

Very true, i personally feel there are at least 2 other conditions for denuvos removal.

C: The game in question reaches and exceeds its sales target in a very short period of time.

D: The game in question has ceased development and is no longer on actively being sold in high numbers , games at least 5-7 years old.

But when it does come to companies removing denuvo, some are very quick to remove it, example being Sega removing denuvo from the Yakuza games, but other companies like Square Enix still have denuvo on Deus ex mankind divided.

Just to clarify i'm not saying companies are good or evil, i'm saying that some companies are quicker on the uptake of removing denuvo once the milestones are reached while others just ignore or refuse to remove it.

But that being said, i personally don't like denuvo after all its from the same guys who made the SecruRom DrM back in the mid 2000's and if you grew up with PC gaming back then you know how annoying such software is.

Also to those who complain about Steams DRM, i just want to say at least steams DRM isn't hostile to your PC or acts as a potential risk to your system. Even valve have said should steam go down or cease to be they would remove the drm so all your games are still playable. Most of these drm companies in the past like starforce and secruRom you cant play their games anymore.