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Ohhh... so the new airplanes are not free...
I thought it was going to be a free dlc... i have to pay 13€ for three new airplanes? What? Are they crazy? I could buy a whole new game for that price...
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If the three DLC planes were free, Bamco wouldn't bother bringing out Premium Edition, which has all of those planes (plus past DLC contents) for higher price. And it's unreasonable to think that they're charging DLC planes like ADF-01F, but not CFA-44, so the idea that we'll get them for free is, at best, far-fetched.

Price-wise, well... You got the three DLC planes plus Belkan War skins and emblems, if that matters for you. You get more value in that pack for that amount rather than buying them individually, unless you only like one of them.
I bought them. The new planes are awesome.
Then again I play WoT as well, so I'm used to "sacrifice your firstborn" kind of price tags for pixels.

I guess it comes down to quantifying your feeling of "I'm missing out!"
Exactly how many $ worth is your feeling? In my case I REALLY wanted the nosferatu, so it was an easy buy.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: lemmonoski; 2020. okt. 29., 23:37
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Mandorle21 eredeti hozzászólása:
I just want you to be aware that 13€ could be the value of 3 or 4 new entire missions added to the campaign, not just three new planes (not even new, since they're designs from older games)...
You're right about that. The 3 DLC missions cost less than 3 planes.
How? Must be some regional pricing screwyness going on there, because with American money, the 3 dlc missions are 4.99 a pop, and the 3 planes, if purchased individually, are 4.99 a pop. With the bundle of 3 planes that also includes a large number of skins, it's 12.99, or at least it was when I bought it.


If you don't like it, vote with your wallet. If they hadn't been cheaper as a bundle (although I would miss the skins, I'm sure I could have gotten the Zero liveries via modding), I'd have only picked up the CFA and the XFA. The only one of the previous 3 planes I picked up was the Morgan. I also didn't buy all the missions the moment they were available.

Don't call other people 'crazy fanboys' just for placing a different value on things than you do. To be honest, for a lot of other games, 3 high-end endgame items requires either loot box roulette or more than 5 dollars a pop. God forbid you start considering multiplayer focused games and their insane pricing shenanigans, to say nothing of modern 'f2p' monetization.

Killing Floor 2 has been doing single weapons (at least one of which is a port of an existing model from one of their other games) for 10 dollars a pop.

Could be a lot worse. If they were selling skins at 5 dollars a pop, I'd have a major problem with the price, but as it is, I don't.
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How? Must be some regional pricing screwyness going on there, because with American money, the 3 dlc missions are 4.99 a pop, and the 3 planes, if purchased individually, are 4.99 a pop. With the bundle of 3 planes that also includes a large number of skins, it's 12.99, or at least it was when I bought it.
I don't know, for me each mission costs a little less than one of the new planes. Not using American dollar, of course.
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How? Must be some regional pricing screwyness going on there, because with American money, the 3 dlc missions are 4.99 a pop, and the 3 planes, if purchased individually, are 4.99 a pop. With the bundle of 3 planes that also includes a large number of skins, it's 12.99, or at least it was when I bought it.
I don't know, for me each mission costs a little less than one of the new planes. Not using American dollar, of course.
Hmm, maybe fluctuations in currency value resulting in the older DLC using an older exchange rate to set the base price?
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What? I can't understand if you're joking or serious... if YOU had any common sense and stopped being the typical fanboy (nice profile pic) you would complain too... You know what a real DLC of 13€ should be? Definitely not 3 freakin planes... It literally is 1/4 of the price for the full game, meaing this DLC should have 1/4 of the content of the entire game, meaning FIVE ENTIRE NEW MISSIONS.
I would gladly pay that price if there were even only three other special missions added to the main campaign, that would be epic, but who in their right mind would pay that price to RE-PLAY the same LINEAR game for the umpteenth time but with a different plane? Are you serious? Imagine paying 13€ to re-play the single player campaign of Call Of Duty (that you probably already played 20 times) simply with a different (and overpowered) weapon... like, what?
Wow, you really are daft aren't you? No one is forcing you to buy them then, I looked forward to them so I did and I enjoy them regardless if I play the same missions. At least the devs gave us new content. Also, calling everyone who disagrees with you a crazy fanboy doesn't support your argument very well, that has to be some of the dumbest logic I've ever seen. Once again, no one will force you to buy them, you can just move on with your entitled life and rightfully piss off. there are way too many people like you complaining about this DLC when it alone was hard work for the incredibly small team that Project Aces is, in the middle of a pandemic too might I add, be thankful they gave us anything at all but clearly you're too entitled to see that. Sure, may be the same price as missions, but missions require a hell of a lot more work than planes, scripting? Voice Acting? creating new levels from the ground up so people don't flame you for recycling the old levels? Not to mention orchestrating music for the levels, at least 10x more work than new aircraft. Wake up and use your brain for once, if you even have one.
Hard work?? You call this HARD WORK?? They literally put three new models in the game, some new sounds for the engines (MAYBE) and tweked their stats! A MODDER could do that! It's 13€!!
The Witcher 3 Blood and Wine DLC is only 7€ more and it's basically a new entire game with at least 10 hours of content (maybe even 20) added to the main game! How can you say that this was hard work?? FOR 13€!!
This DLC should be 5 or 6 euros MAX. And even that would be a lot, since i thought it would have been for free.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Mandorle21; 2020. okt. 30., 2:52
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Wow, you really are daft aren't you? No one is forcing you to buy them then, I looked forward to them so I did and I enjoy them regardless if I play the same missions. At least the devs gave us new content. Also, calling everyone who disagrees with you a crazy fanboy doesn't support your argument very well, that has to be some of the dumbest logic I've ever seen. Once again, no one will force you to buy them, you can just move on with your entitled life and rightfully piss off. there are way too many people like you complaining about this DLC when it alone was hard work for the incredibly small team that Project Aces is, in the middle of a pandemic too might I add, be thankful they gave us anything at all but clearly you're too entitled to see that. Sure, may be the same price as missions, but missions require a hell of a lot more work than planes, scripting? Voice Acting? creating new levels from the ground up so people don't flame you for recycling the old levels? Not to mention orchestrating music for the levels, at least 10x more work than new aircraft. Wake up and use your brain for once, if you even have one.
Hard work?? You call this HARD WORK?? They literally put three new models in the game, some new sounds for the engines (MAYBE) and tweked their stats! A MODDER could do that! It's 13€!!
The Witcher 3 Blood and Wine DLC is only 7€ more and it's basically a new entire game with at least 10 hours of content (maybe even 20) added to the main game! How can you say that this was hard work?? FOR 13€!!
This DLC should be 5 or 6 euros MAX. And even that would be a lot, since i thought it would have been for free.
Alright then, let's see you do it, go and make a model swap like Skyline's F-15 MTD mod. do you realize how small Project Aces is? Did you even read my reply? You need to educate yourself before you make an even bigger fool out of yourself, but it's too late for that anyway. The fact that you still think this should be free, or 5 bucks for all 3 is just a whole new level of entitlement. In my currency, the 3 missions come in as 4.99 each, same with the individual planes that DON'T come with the Zero skins and emblems if you buy the 13 dollar pack, and would you look at that, the 3 bonus missions cost more than the planes pack that comes with the numerous Zero skins!! In case you're too daft to notice, 5 x 3 is 15. You just clearly overlooked the fact that I told you Project Aces is a tiny team, and not everyone can be working at the same time, if you think you could make just a single model like these, animate them, script them and their weapons, give them stats and also balance their performance in a MP environment, then yeah let me see you do it in record time and call it a piece of cake. You clearly don't know what hard work even is, considering you're on the bandwagon of people in this forum that expects everything to be free and to be given to you on a silver platter. Also, using the Witcher 3 isn't a solid point to your argument, I've now mentioned 2 times, going on 3, that PA is a small team, literally not even 20 people, and CD Projekt Red has over 1,000 employees, major diffrence and much more work can be done by a much bigger developer, I don't need to spell that out for you right?
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Tl;Dr Project Aces is based

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Hard work?? You call this HARD WORK?? They literally put three new models in the game, some new sounds for the engines (MAYBE) and tweked their stats! A MODDER could do that! It's 13€!!
The Witcher 3 Blood and Wine DLC is only 7€ more and it's basically a new entire game with at least 10 hours of content (maybe even 20) added to the main game! How can you say that this was hard work?? FOR 13€!!
This DLC should be 5 or 6 euros MAX. And even that would be a lot, since i thought it would have been for free.
Alright then, let's see you do it, go and make a model swap like Skyline's F-15 MTD mod. do you realize how small Project Aces is? Did you even read my reply? You need to educate yourself before you make an even bigger fool out of yourself, but it's too late for that anyway. The fact that you still think this should be free, or 5 bucks for all 3 is just a whole new level of entitlement. In my currency, the 3 missions come in as 4.99 each, same with the individual planes that DON'T come with the Zero skins and emblems if you buy the 13 dollar pack, and would you look at that, the 3 bonus missions cost more than the planes pack that comes with the numerous Zero skins!! In case you're too daft to notice, 5 x 3 is 15. You just clearly overlooked the fact that I told you Project Aces is a tiny team, and not everyone can be working at the same time, if you think you could make just a single model like these, animate them, script them and their weapons, give them stats and also balance their performance in a MP environment, then yeah let me see you do it in record time and call it a piece of cake. You clearly don't know what hard work even is, considering you're on the bandwagon of people in this forum that expects everything to be free and to be given to you on a silver platter. Also, using the Witcher 3 isn't a solid point to your argument, I've now mentioned 2 times, going on 3, that PA is a small team, literally not even 20 people, and CD Projekt Red has over 1,000 employees, major diffrence and much more work can be done by a much bigger developer, I don't need to spell that out for you right?
This guy is CRAZY! What the hell did i just read?? THREE PLANES ARE WORTH 13€ TO YOU??? 13€ is 1/4 of the price of the full game!! DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?? 13€ are the value of 3 to 5 full missions! Not three plane models! What does it matter that it's a small team?? Since it's a small team, i have to pay them more?? What the heck does that mean?? It's MATH, it's not an opinion, they are ROBBING YOU. Keep paying them and let them rob you, not my problem.
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Alright then, let's see you do it, go and make a model swap like Skyline's F-15 MTD mod. do you realize how small Project Aces is? Did you even read my reply? You need to educate yourself before you make an even bigger fool out of yourself, but it's too late for that anyway. The fact that you still think this should be free, or 5 bucks for all 3 is just a whole new level of entitlement. In my currency, the 3 missions come in as 4.99 each, same with the individual planes that DON'T come with the Zero skins and emblems if you buy the 13 dollar pack, and would you look at that, the 3 bonus missions cost more than the planes pack that comes with the numerous Zero skins!! In case you're too daft to notice, 5 x 3 is 15. You just clearly overlooked the fact that I told you Project Aces is a tiny team, and not everyone can be working at the same time, if you think you could make just a single model like these, animate them, script them and their weapons, give them stats and also balance their performance in a MP environment, then yeah let me see you do it in record time and call it a piece of cake. You clearly don't know what hard work even is, considering you're on the bandwagon of people in this forum that expects everything to be free and to be given to you on a silver platter. Also, using the Witcher 3 isn't a solid point to your argument, I've now mentioned 2 times, going on 3, that PA is a small team, literally not even 20 people, and CD Projekt Red has over 1,000 employees, major diffrence and much more work can be done by a much bigger developer, I don't need to spell that out for you right?
This guy is CRAZY! What the hell did i just read?? THREE PLANES ARE WORTH 13€ TO YOU??? 13€ is 1/4 of the price of the full game!! DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?? 13€ are the value of 3 to 5 full missions! Not three plane models! What does it matter that it's a small team?? Since it's a small team, i have to pay them more?? What the heck does that mean?? It's MATH, it's not an opinion, they are ROBBING YOU. Keep paying them and let them rob you, not my problem.
Okay, you are clearly the most daft person I've ever seen, you clearly did not read a single thing i wrote, and now you're shouting like a child and calling ME crazy? who's the crazy here? If you think 13 bucks for 3 planes is absolutely bizarre, then take a look at War Thunder where you pay 50 bucks for one premium aircraft. With lack of a better term, you are simply the dumbest individual I've seen on this forum, you haven't read and understood a single thing I've told you and apparently you think dev team size shouldn't matter? Are you really that stupid? Quit making a fool of yourself kid and scurry along, no one is forcing you to buy them and honestly, no one wants people like you in the community, so off you go if you don't like it, I'm losing brain cells every time you post something.
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This guy is CRAZY! What the hell did i just read?? THREE PLANES ARE WORTH 13€ TO YOU??? 13€ is 1/4 of the price of the full game!! DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?? 13€ are the value of 3 to 5 full missions! Not three plane models! What does it matter that it's a small team?? Since it's a small team, i have to pay them more?? What the heck does that mean?? It's MATH, it's not an opinion, they are ROBBING YOU. Keep paying them and let them rob you, not my problem.
Okay, you are clearly the most daft person I've ever seen, you clearly did not read a single thing i wrote, and now you're shouting like a child and calling ME crazy? who's the crazy here? If you think 13 bucks for 3 planes is absolutely bizarre, then take a look at War Thunder where you pay 50 bucks for one premium aircraft. With lack of a better term, you are simply the dumbest individual I've seen on this forum, you haven't read and understood a single thing I've told you and apparently you think dev team size shouldn't matter? Are you really that stupid? Quit making a fool of yourself kid and scurry along, no one is forcing you to buy them and honestly, no one wants people like you in the community, so off you go if you don't like it, I'm losing brain cells every time you post something.
You loose brain cells when your brain can't comprehend math? I understand that, some people have a really hard time making elementary school level math.
Ok, so... there are a lot of things wrong in what you said:

First: War Thunder is a FREE TO PLAY game, meaning the entire full game is literally free, while Ace Combat is not, you already paid 60 bucks for it.

Second: i agree with you that premium aircrafts are stupid and i never bought one. NEVER. But i understand why they do it, as i said, it's free to play, so the only source of income they have is that one.

Third: War Thunder is, unlike Ace Combat, a FLYING SIMULATOR, meaning model, shape, weight, and what's INSIDE of an airplane matter, so implementing a new plane with completely different detailed real world physics is WAY HARDER than doing the same in Ace Combat. Also, since they are real life vehicle with close to real world performance, they have to make ton of research for every single vehicle. In Ace Combat, there's no physics at all, so they simply have to add a new shape on top of another airplane and tweak the stats, like how quick you can roll or pitch. Not to mention that in War Thunder they have to make a fine balacing work for every plane, tank and ship newly added to the game, since it's a full MULTIPLAYER game. Also, being a multiplayer, there's literally ENDLESS content, since you're going to use that premium aircraft even for years eventually. With Ace Combat, you simply re-play the same linear single player campaign (which i absolutely love, let's be clear on that).
Flying SIMULATOR vs ARCADE flying game, don't you even dare to compare them. Would be like comparing Call of Duty to Arma 3...

Forth: you say that being a small team is a good reason for selling microscopic content for a huge price. I don't understand why, explain it to me. In the world i live, i'm used to prices being related to the quality and quantity of what is being sold, not to who is producing it or how many workers there are in the factory. Three DLC entire bonus missions cost around 15$, right? Do you think that simply adding three new models of a plane has approximately the same value of those three new missions? I don't know about you, but I honestly don't think so.
I'm ok with them not creating big contents, as you said, they are a small team with not that much money to use. I'm not asking for more content (even though i would really like it), i'm asking that the minor content they are adding is priced accordingly to its real value.

Fifth: you say that no one is forcing me to pay for this DLC. True. The point is that i AM interested in these three new planes, i want to play them, i love playing the main campaign of Ace Comabt 7, so i am actually missing on them because i can't pay 13€ for this interesting but microscopic content.
And i have to also blame people like you who are up to pay these prices, because if NO ONE would buy it, they would lower the price.

Sixth: you check other unknown people profiles to see what are their interests? That's creepy dude.

I think these are the main arguments i have right now. I have some other "secondary" arguments, but i think by now you got what i'm trying to say.
But I also understand that usually talking with people like you is useless, it's almost like trying to reason with a flat-earther... i hope this is not the case of course. So i guess that, if there's no change in tone, this will also be my last reply. I know these threads are not going to change anything, people spend money in crazier ways, that's for sure, i just wanted to vent my frustration and disappointment, and I did.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Mandorle21; 2020. okt. 30., 13:23
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Okay, you are clearly the most daft person I've ever seen, you clearly did not read a single thing i wrote, and now you're shouting like a child and calling ME crazy? who's the crazy here? If you think 13 bucks for 3 planes is absolutely bizarre, then take a look at War Thunder where you pay 50 bucks for one premium aircraft. With lack of a better term, you are simply the dumbest individual I've seen on this forum, you haven't read and understood a single thing I've told you and apparently you think dev team size shouldn't matter? Are you really that stupid? Quit making a fool of yourself kid and scurry along, no one is forcing you to buy them and honestly, no one wants people like you in the community, so off you go if you don't like it, I'm losing brain cells every time you post something.
You loose brain cells when your brain can't comprehend math? I understand that, some people have a really hard time making elementary school level math.
Ok, so... there are a lot of things wrong in what you said:

First: War Thunder is a FREE TO PLAY game, meaning the entire full game is literally free, while Ace Combat is not, you already paid 60 bucks for it.

Second: i agree with you that premium aircrafts are stupid and i never bought one. NEVER. But i understand why they do it, as i said, it's free to play, so the only source of income they have is that one.

Third: War Thunder is, unlike Ace Combat, a FLYING SIMULATOR, meaning model, shape, weight, and what's INSIDE of an airplane matter, so implementing a new plane with completely different detailed real world physics is WAY HARDER than doing the same in Ace Combat. Also, since they are real life vehicle with close to real world performance, they have to make ton of research for every single vehicle. In Ace Combat, there's no physics at all, so they simply have to add a new shape on top of another airplane and tweak the stats, like how quick you can roll or pitch. Not to mention that in War Thunder they have to make a fine balacing work for every plane, tank and ship newly added to the game, since it's a full MULTIPLAYER game. Also, being a multiplayer, there's literally ENDLESS content, since you're going to use that premium aircraft even for years eventually. With Ace Combat, you simply re-play the same linear single player campaign (which i absolutely love, let's be clear on that).
Flying SIMULATOR vs ARCADE flying game, don't you even dare to compare them. Would be like comparing Call of Duty to Arma 3...

Forth: you say that being a small team is a good reason for selling microscopic content for a huge price. I don't understand why, explain it to me. In the world i live, i'm used to prices being related to the quality and quantity of what is being sold, not to who is producing it or how many workers there are in the factory. Three DLC entire bonus missions cost around 15$, right? Do you think that simply adding three new models of a plane has approximately the same value of those three new missions? I don't know about you, but I honestly don't think so.
I'm ok with them not creating big contents, as you said, they are a small team with not that much money to use. I'm not asking for more content (even though i would really like it), i'm asking that the minor content they are adding is priced accordingly to its real value.

Fifth: you say that no one is forcing me to pay for this DLC. True. The point is that i AM interested in these three new planes, i want to play them, i love playing the main campaign of Ace Comabt 7, so i am actually missing on them because i can't pay 13€ for this interesting but microscopic content.
And i have to also blame people like you who are up to pay these prices, because if NO ONE would buy it, they would lower the price.

I think these are the main arguments i have right now. I have some other "secondary" arguments, but i think by now you got what i'm trying to say.
But I also understand that usually talking with people like you is useless, it's almost like trying to reason with a flat-earther... i hope this is not the case of course. So i guess that, if there's no change in tone, this will also be my last reply. I know these threads are not going to change anything, people spend money in crazier ways, that's for sure, i just wanted to vent my frustration and disappointment, and I did.
the fact that you still think 13 bucks is an absolutly insane and unforgivable price is hilarious, also you really think War Thunder models its planes accuratly enough to be worth 50 bucks? If they added the Hawker Hunter to DCS World at the same price of 50 bucks as the Premium Hunter FGA 9 is in WT, then which one would you rather buy for the Hawker Hunter experience? I know which one I'd take. You ask for the DLC to be priced accordingly and IT IS, hell some people thought this DLC would even be in the 20 dollar range, or at least 15 dollars and well, it isn't. Also, I never once said that small teams should sell DLCs for bizarre prices, especially when 13 dollars is not a bizarre price, I pay more than that for gas in my car every month. Not to mention that in that 13 dollar pack, it's not just the planes, it's the skins and emblems as well which hold their own value to different people but that doesn't matter to you. Honestly, why am I still arguing with someone who doesn't understand basic economics? On top of that, someone who insults someone's basic math abilities when they themselves want everything to be handed to them for no charge.

You have given me an absolute headache that's for sure mate, but you were amusing! I imagine when you buy a car, you complain to the dealer that you thought the newest, hottest Ferrari was going to be free, or at least priced accordingly with comparable vehicles on the road such as a Toyota Camry. Enjoy missing out as you did say you do really want these planes, but you know what, 13 dollars is just such a bizarre price that is simply unacceptable! Damn you Devs! Such lying scammers! Also, so you quit accusing me as some fanboy that throws his money to the devs, I bought them because 1) 2 planes that I loved to see return, Shinden is okay I guess, along with the iconic Zero skins. 2) Project Aces deserves the support, until you yourself are on a development team that has to cater to an entitled population that includes people like you, you will have no understanding of how much work went into something so simple.
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Okay, you are clearly the most daft person I've ever seen, you clearly did not read a single thing i wrote, and now you're shouting like a child and calling ME crazy? who's the crazy here? If you think 13 bucks for 3 planes is absolutely bizarre, then take a look at War Thunder where you pay 50 bucks for one premium aircraft. With lack of a better term, you are simply the dumbest individual I've seen on this forum, you haven't read and understood a single thing I've told you and apparently you think dev team size shouldn't matter? Are you really that stupid? Quit making a fool of yourself kid and scurry along, no one is forcing you to buy them and honestly, no one wants people like you in the community, so off you go if you don't like it, I'm losing brain cells every time you post something.
You loose brain cells when your brain can't comprehend math? I understand that, some people have a really hard time making elementary school level math.
Ok, so... there are a lot of things wrong in what you said:

First: War Thunder is a FREE TO PLAY game, meaning the entire full game is literally free, while Ace Combat is not, you already paid 60 bucks for it.

Second: i agree with you that premium aircrafts are stupid and i never bought one. NEVER. But i understand why they do it, as i said, it's free to play, so the only source of income they have is that one.

Third: War Thunder is, unlike Ace Combat, a FLYING SIMULATOR, meaning model, shape, weight, and what's INSIDE of an airplane matter, so implementing a new plane with completely different detailed real world physics is WAY HARDER than doing the same in Ace Combat. Also, since they are real life vehicle with close to real world performance, they have to make ton of research for every single vehicle. In Ace Combat, there's no physics at all, so they simply have to add a new shape on top of another airplane and tweak the stats, like how quick you can roll or pitch. Not to mention that in War Thunder they have to make a fine balacing work for every plane, tank and ship newly added to the game, since it's a full MULTIPLAYER game. Also, being a multiplayer, there's literally ENDLESS content, since you're going to use that premium aircraft even for years eventually. With Ace Combat, you simply re-play the same linear single player campaign (which i absolutely love, let's be clear on that).
Flying SIMULATOR vs ARCADE flying game, don't you even dare to compare them. Would be like comparing Call of Duty to Arma 3...

Forth: you say that being a small team is a good reason for selling microscopic content for a huge price. I don't understand why, explain it to me. In the world i live, i'm used to prices being related to the quality and quantity of what is being sold, not to who is producing it or how many workers there are in the factory. Three DLC entire bonus missions cost around 15$, right? Do you think that simply adding three new models of a plane has approximately the same value of those three new missions? I don't know about you, but I honestly don't think so.
I'm ok with them not creating big contents, as you said, they are a small team with not that much money to use. I'm not asking for more content (even though i would really like it), i'm asking that the minor content they are adding is priced accordingly to its real value.

Fifth: you say that no one is forcing me to pay for this DLC. True. The point is that i AM interested in these three new planes, i want to play them, i love playing the main campaign of Ace Comabt 7, so i am actually missing on them because i can't pay 13€ for this interesting but microscopic content.
And i have to also blame people like you who are up to pay these prices, because if NO ONE would buy it, they would lower the price.

Sixth: you check other unknown people profiles to see what are their interests? That's creepy dude.

I think these are the main arguments i have right now. I have some other "secondary" arguments, but i think by now you got what i'm trying to say.
But I also understand that usually talking with people like you is useless, it's almost like trying to reason with a flat-earther... i hope this is not the case of course. So i guess that, if there's no change in tone, this will also be my last reply. I know these threads are not going to change anything, people spend money in crazier ways, that's for sure, i just wanted to vent my frustration and disappointment, and I did.
Ya ever think they might be selling the aircraft DLC at a slightly inflated cost, so that they can keep the mission DLC cost down?

Basically everything you've said indicates that you have no idea how the development cycle works. '3 to 5 missions for 15 dollars'
Missions involve voice work, level design work, potentially new terrain assets, heavy mission scripting, music, and many other things. Ace combat is developed by a small team who basically get minimal help form Namco-Bandai when it comes to development. A major portion of AC7's early development, was funded by the income from the F2P Ace combat Infinity, because Namco-Bandai was not confident in the game's success. The series had been on the chopping block, same with Tekken, Soul Calibur, and Ridge Racer. Many of the publisher's long running series wound up with F2P versions reusing assets from recent releases to use as a 'market test' to decide whether to axe them.
Namco-Bandai is also the ones that set pricing in the end.

Again, your 'money for value' comparisons are WAY off. Look at pricing of DLC in other games. AC7 is pretty standard, actually, and also well BELOW the typical level of cost for the genre of 'flight game'. It's certainly better than the lootbox BS most are doing.
You keep emphasizing this weird 'x fraction of base game cost' as if it's relevant to EXTRA content that isn't needed to have a complete game, in a primarily single player game.

If it's not the DLC type you wanted, that's fine. Don't buy it. But don't go ranting about it on the game's community, calling people 'blind fanboys' for being willing to pay a reasonable price, just because you think they could have done different.

Also, 'if people didn't buy it, it'd be cheaper' is wrong. If people didn't buy it, it wouldn't be made. The price wouldn't drop, they'd just stop making more content and assume people weren't interested, because there ARE costs involved in making things, even skins. DLC, in particular, don't get priced based on 'it's x% of base game content'. Because their available consumerbase, is smaller than that of the base game. DLC only sells to a smaller portion of people, who have already bought the base game. Smaller sales pool = higher relative price per unit, because they can't rely on selling as many to cover the gap.
It's very basic economics, and you see it in literally EVERY industry.
5 missions for 15€/$, plus planes, is the rate you paid for the game at release. That is enough to call that studio lazy & cheapskate that is all.

On top of it that 25th anniversary argument is like raising a middle fnger to all fans: happy anniversary, pay us gifts.
I loved these planes in previous games.

You want the planes or what? If you do buy I would maximize purchase with user created skins.

If you buy the CFA-44, this is the highest quality skin so far,
https://www.nexusmods.com/acecombat7skiesunknown/mods/888?tab=description&BH=1

Lastly, a moderately priced meal would cost more and that's gone forever in a few minutes. lol ...don't sweat the small stuff, just buy it.
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