F-22 or SU-57

[Noxtilus]

The Good(Pros)? The Bad(Cons)? The Ugly(subjective)?

[K4_Kydure]

The raw stats between the two are almost identical. The most notable differences are that the F-22 has slightly better stealth and way more gun ammo while the Su-57 has slightly more missiles. It really comes down to what special weapons you prefer.

[Coyote Knight]

F22 for XAGM
SU-57 for PLS
Best boys are still the fishbed and F-15C

[Useless Bunny]

One has qaam, the other plsl.

[628]

F-22
pros: useful SPs (QAAM and XSDB), better stability
con: a bit less agile compared to other two

Su-57
pros: PLSL (OP especially in Singleplayer), better maneuverbility including full PSM
con: a bit larger hitbox

YF-23
pros: two effective A2A SPs loadable (especially HVAA), higher agility
con: no PSM capability

[Saviliana]

F-14D is the only plane you should be flying, because if you know the story, then you were only to be fly with F-14.

[628]

Originally posted by Saviliana:

F-14D is the only plane you should be flying, because if you know the story, then you were only to be fly with F-14.

F-15C, appearing as the "canon" craft for Strider 1: Excuse me WTF

[Nathanx42]

Pros for both:
Fast planes with good acceleration
Excellent overall maneuverability

Cons for both:
High Cost, you'll never see these outside of unlimited by sane players.

F-22 -
Pros:
QAAM Boat build
Extremely stable
PSMs carry energy better than Su-57
Smaller profile

Cons:
Doesn't turn nearly as hard
More easily hit by missiles
Less energy management is needed
Top speed turn radius is worse than Su-57

Su-57 -
Pros:
PLSL shreds everything
Turns harder than almost everything else in the game
Missiles don't suffer from bay lag
Extremely good Top Speed

Cons:
Extremely unstable close to stall speeds
Often overshoots gun angles
Requires more precision than everything other than superplanes

Conclusion:
Are you good at ace combat and understand the mechanics at a deep level?
Su-57

Are you not?
F-22

Singleplayer: Su-57

[totalwar360]

Gripen E

[Disgruntled Cuttlefish]

Neither, F-105 Thunderchief

[Baron| HyenAlpha]

If you want to wipe the board on Fleet Destruction, SU-57 with PLSL. Accept no substitutes.

[JtDarth]

Originally posted by Baron | HyenAlpha:

If you want to wipe the board on Fleet Destruction, SU-57 with PLSL. Accept no substitutes.

SFFS would like a word.

[Useless Bunny]

Originally posted by JtDarth:

Originally posted by Baron | HyenAlpha:

If you want to wipe the board on Fleet Destruction, SU-57 with PLSL. Accept no substitutes.

SFFS would like a word.

PLSL is way better. The best score record on that mission is with PLSL.

[JtDarth]

Originally posted by BEEP BEEP BEEP MISSILE ALERT:

Originally posted by JtDarth:

SFFS would like a word.

PLSL is way better. The best score record on that mission is with PLSL.

Both can wipe the board. Literally the only advantage PLSL has there is that it can be used as an AA weapon as well as an A2G.
SFFS plus missiles can kill the same amount of targets per pass, potentially more depending on targets, as the PLSL can.

[Useless Bunny]

Originally posted by JtDarth:

Originally posted by BEEP BEEP BEEP MISSILE ALERT:

PLSL is way better. The best score record on that mission is with PLSL.

Both can wipe the board. Literally the only advantage PLSL has there is that it can be used as an AA weapon as well as an A2G.
SFFS plus missiles can kill the same amount of targets per pass, potentially more depending on targets, as the PLSL can.

I wanna see SFFS getting over 100.000 points there. PLSL can destroy the whole platforms much quicker than missiles + gun and SFFS are unguided bombs that as far as I know are unable to penetrate the platform and hit the cores, that alone should make a big time/score difference. Since there are limited ground targets but unlimited air targets that keep spawning, PLSL more things to hit than the bombs. I may try SFFS in that mission and see how well I do with it but I don't really imagine it being that great.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

SFFS versus PLS dickmeasuring contest. Let me spoil it for you, you're both under 3cm. If you can't break 100,000 with MGP, wtf are you even playing?