Buying the right controller

[Drew]

Hi, I was looking into buying a flight stick or HOTA or whatever the kids call it nowadays.

Any purchasing suggestions for someone wanting to play this game? I may want to use it on other games too, though. I heard this game has compatibility issues.

Thanks.

[bingbean]

In arcade games like AC7 you will be fine with trustmaster hotas 4. If you want play with joystick more realistic game, then i will recomend somethig whit hall magnetic sensor. T16000 FCS HOTAS is realy good and AC7 suport him.

[CEPHY]

From what I heard, AC7 is too "arcade" for most sticks. In fact you'd might even be at a disadvantage with one. Personally I'd recommend a X360 controller. Costs like 40 bucks on amazon.

[Det.Bullock]

Originally posted by ILIAD:

From what I heard, AC7 is too "arcade" for most sticks. In fact you'd might even be at a disadvantage with one. Personally I'd recommend a X360 controller. Costs like 40 bucks on amazon.

It depends, Thrustmaster tends to use very tight springs which can be tiring, CH Products and others on the other hand either go with a much lighter feel or allow to swap springs.
I've been playing with a CH Combatstick and Pro Throttle and never had any issues.

Originally posted by Drew:

Hi, I was looking into buying a flight stick or HOTA or whatever the kids call it nowadays.

Any purchasing suggestions for someone wanting to play this game? I may want to use it on other games too, though. I heard this game has compatibility issues.

Thanks.

The problems were mostly at launch.
Thrustmaster sticks of the last few years are supported by and large, IIRC a few of the fancier models might require to open the input.ini file and fill the bindings yourself.
Same deal with latest Logitech models plus the evergreen 3Dpro though all of them require manual binding with the ini file.
I also happily discovered that Ch Products sticks also work with the game always with the manual binding via ini file but still better than having to deal with x360ce like I had to do at launch.

[Useless Bunny]

You're better off buying a gamepad for this game.

[bingbean]

Stop trolling and misleading people with the myth that playing with a joystick is a disadvantage compared to a gamepad. If it is true that a gamepad player has an advantage because he can move a thumb stick faster than a joystick player can move his whole wrist, then a keyboard player should also be at an advantage over a gamepad player, because a button can be pressed faster than move the thumb stick. So according to this logic, he should play with the keyboard because he has the biggest advantage over the others and also saves money because he doesn't have to buy anything, because he probably already has a keyboard and mouse.
Let everyone use what they want.

[Det.Bullock]

Originally posted by lubomart:

In arcade games like AC7 you will be fine with trustmaster hotas 4. If you want play with joystick more realistic game, then i will recomend somethig whit hall magnetic sensor. T16000 FCS HOTAS is realy good and AC7 suport him.

I'd recommend the T16000 even if he wants to play other games with it in general not just the realistic ones, many unrealistic games on PC are on the older side and the more comprehensive software suite of that stick compared to the HOTAS 4 should help a lot with those.

[628]

Xbox controller or Dualshock 4, depends on your preference.

[Naruto 607]

Originally posted by lubomart:

Stop trolling and misleading people with the myth that playing with a joystick is a disadvantage compared to a gamepad. If it is true that a gamepad player has an advantage because he can move a thumb stick faster than a joystick player can move his whole wrist, then a keyboard player should also be at an advantage over a gamepad player, because a button can be pressed faster than move the thumb stick. So according to this logic, he should play with the keyboard because he has the biggest advantage over the others and also saves money because he doesn't have to buy anything, because he probably already has a keyboard and mouse.
Let everyone use what they want.

Agreed. Everyone have their own tastes. If they can fly in DCS with a flight stick, there's no doubt that they can use it in AC7 as well. There's no boundary of which game controllers that suit best for their playstyle.

To me, flight stick like HOTAS is space-consuming and fancy, so gamepad is my preferrence. There are, however, budget concerns that people have to play with keyboard and mouse, so if at least they returned from Assault Horizon on PC, they need to readjust the keybindings to match the Assault Horizon playstyle.

I'm a guy who was an Assault Horizon player myself.

[Useless Bunny]

Originally posted by lubomart:

Stop trolling and misleading people with the myth that playing with a joystick is a disadvantage compared to a gamepad. If it is true that a gamepad player has an advantage because he can move a thumb stick faster than a joystick player can move his whole wrist, then a keyboard player should also be at an advantage over a gamepad player, because a button can be pressed faster than move the thumb stick. So according to this logic, he should play with the keyboard because he has the biggest advantage over the others and also saves money because he doesn't have to buy anything, because he probably already has a keyboard and mouse.
Let everyone use what they want.

First of all, I didn't say any of that here. Maybe you should stop being so butthurt for absolutely no reason and bringing up arguments about OTHER topics into this thread. Take your hurt feelings elsewhere. My suggestion here is based on MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE (which should be more than obvious as I speak for no one), the fact that the majority of players use a gamepad for multiple reasons and also that the game was built around one as this is a console port.

Second, we're not talking about performance here. Fun trivia though: did you know that the one considered the best by the multiplayer community uses keyboard to play? What a coincidence, huh?

Third, "let everyone use what they want" since when I was prohibiting people of using anything? They can use a damn banana with wires like that guy did with Dark Souls for all I care. I simply gave my own input in the thread that is asking people for their inputs. You're so hurt by something I said you didn't like that you go on other threads to directly attack me by claiming I'm "trolling" and "misleading people", which is hilariously ironic. You had your chance to discuss with me in another thread about what is the best way to play and you couldn't argue your way through, so don't bring it here at least. Good job on derailing.

[bingbean]

Originally posted by BEEP BEEP BEEP MISSILE ALERT:

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It is true that my post is just below yours, it is true that I mentioned your argument from another topic, but now I did not respond directly to your post. It was meant in general to everyone who still needs to comment on a topic about joysticks, and they have no joystick and have never tried it.
Drew asked what kind of joystick to buy for this game so that he wouldn't have a compatibility problem and that he wants to use it in other games as well. In my opinion, recommending for him a gamepad is out of the point.

It makes no sense to discuss anything with you at all, because it makes your ego impossible, and mine too.

[Useless Bunny]

Originally posted by lubomart:

It is true that my post is just below yours, it is true that I mentioned your argument from another topic, but now I did not respond directly to your post. It was meant in general to everyone who still needs to comment on a topic about joysticks, and they have no joystick and have never tried it.

Your entire post was completely directed at me because no one in here (including my own post) mentioned anything about thumb, arm or wrist motion or performance in-game, that's something I said in another thread where it was actually asked what control type was better and you engaged with me there.

Do not try to play it off by saying "it was not directed at you" when it clearly is.

Originally posted by lubomart:

Drew asked what kind of joystick to buy for this game so that he wouldn't have a compatibility problem and that he wants to use it in other games as well. In my opinion, recommending for him a gamepad is out of the point.

The thread name is "Buying the right controller" not "buying the right FLIGHT STICK AND FLIGHT STICK ONLY.

The OP post also presents the question: "Any purchasing suggestions for someone wanting to play this game?" and also mentions "I wanna use it for other games too", which can easily mean any controller type and any other game, not just flight games. I think it's more than fair to assume we can suggest something other than flight sticks here, no?

And even if his interest is in flight sticks only, there's nothing "misleading" or "trollish" about my comment at all. If I were to do that, I would say "flight sticks are overpriced stuff only larpers buy" or something of the sort, that's trolling.

Originally posted by lubomart:

It makes no sense to discuss anything with you at all, because it makes your ego impossible, and mine too.

Oh god, don't go there. Look, if you think my presence is oh so unsufferable, just block me or ignore me completely. I had more than a few discussions in here with people that didn't turn into crap like we're having right now and you know why? Because they didn't start a fire, go check the recent remaster of older games thread, for example, where I talk with someone that even had bickered with me in the past here and while we still disagree it turns out fine.

In any case, I'll not talk about this any more, 4 derailed posts is more than enough.

[Colonel Sanders]

I use the Thrustmaster xbox ace combat 7 edition flight controller. It works both on xbox and pc.

[Det.Bullock]

Originally posted by BEEP BEEP BEEP MISSILE ALERT:

Originally posted by lubomart:

Drew asked what kind of joystick to buy for this game so that he wouldn't have a compatibility problem and that he wants to use it in other games as well. In my opinion, recommending for him a gamepad is out of the point.

The thread name is "Buying the right controller" not "buying the right FLIGHT STICK AND FLIGHT STICK ONLY.

The OP post also presents the question: "Any purchasing suggestions for someone wanting to play this game?" and also mentions "I wanna use it for other games too", which can easily mean any controller type and any other game, not just flight games. I think it's more than fair to assume we can suggest something other than flight sticks here, no?.

He mentions he was asking explicitly for a joystick model in the OP so it's clear that a gamepad was already ruled out.
Also other games may include (off the top of my head):
X-wing
Tie Fighter
X-wing vs tie Fighter
Rogue Squadron 3D
Star Wars Starfighter
Freespace
Freespace 2
Tachyon: The Fringe
Wing Commander (five titles plus spin offs, two titles if you count the fully 3D ones)
House of The Dying Sun
Sky Rogue
Everspace
Rebel Galaxy Outlaw
Overload
Descent 1 & 2 (fully compatible with HOTAS using DXX-Rebirth)

Do keep in mind that the first officially licensed joystick for AC7 (before they patched in support for others) the HOTAS 4 is fairly limited as far as configuration and built-in compatibility options go, for example it doesn't have an extensive profiler software like the T16000.

[deathspeed]

The game works fine with my Xbox One controller, but I have not gone back since getting my Sidewinder to work.

Awesome list of games. Here are a few more I have played with a joystick. As you can see i lean more to arcade than realistic sim. :)

Mechwarrior 3 & 4
Crimson Skies
Air Conflicts (several variations/eras)
Aquanox 1 & 2
Combat Wings: Battle of Britain
Darkstar One
Yager
Elite: Dangerous
IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946
Jane's Advanced Strike Fighters
Jane's WWII Fighters
Polynomial 1 & 2
Red Baron 3D
Starlancer
Strike Suit Zero
H.A.W.X. 1 & 2
War Thunder
Wings of Prey