Fix Mission 7 damn it

[Joker]

Those drones are impossible to shoot down. I've failed that piece of crap at least 30 times now and no amount of practice, guides, or time is working. The drones are OP and need a nerf ASAP. Part 2 of Mission 7 is also impossible to beat for some players due to the stupid time limit with the enemy shooting down allies. That garbage needs to go.

FYI, customer support for this game is garbage. If you have an issue and email them they will ignore you.

[MagadaDaSkolin]

Originally posted by Joker:

Those drones are impossible to shoot down. I've failed that piece of crap at least 30 times now and no amount of practice, guides, or time is working. The drones are OP and need a nerf ASAP. Part 2 of Mission 7 is also impossible to beat for some players due to the stupid time limit with the enemy shooting down allies. That garbage needs to go.

FYI, customer support for this game is garbage. If you have an issue and email them they will ignore you.

My 6 y.o sister that play on hard and use keyboard say to you GET GUD!

[Vareka]

Originally posted by JtDarth:

Originally posted by Vareluna:

I'm not talking about the story reasons. I simply don't enjoy the gameplay / game design in this aspect.

There is no difference when dogfighting Mihaly. The insane maneuvering just makes the fight drag on. The only plus side about those is that it's only 1 opponent, and not a swarm.

This is what I mean about the get gud / big d!ck attitude. You should be able to voice an opinion without getting called a scrub. If you enjoy it, great! More power to you. I just find it annoying.

The pattern, on both the drones and Mihaly, as well as on Sol squadron, are full of holes you can exploit to land hits.

I'm not saying you can't have an opinion, but you need to temper it with knowledge of what you are speaking about, not rage blindly and call it an opinion.

Mechanically, there is nothing wrong with how the drones/Mihaly/Sol squadron fly. The drones are little but chum in the water once you acknowledge that they can outmanuver you and begin to adapt to that, and Mihaly/Sol squad, as well as the ravens at the end, turn the game into a little bit of Souls, where you have to learn the boss's pattern or you won't be able to land hits without getting hit in return. What is wrong, particularly with Mihaly/Sol is that they are scripted to not die till certain things go on, which winds up in frustrating situations where you nail Mihaly 12+ times while people are talking and all you've actually done is waste your ammo because the script says he has plot armor still.


I'm not calling anyone a scrub, I've yet to do that. I've just commented that the drones are really not that hard, and that someone having problems with mission 7 has had a failure at basic gameplay. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact. This is literally a case of the OP needing to stop, take a step back, and evaluate rather than smashing his head into a brick wall and just fueling a pointless frustration. It's not the first time in the game you fight drones, nor is the drone ai in this encounter any better than in previous encounters. The only variable here, is the allies that need to be protected. Thing is, the OP has demonstrated he doesn't understand what is going on by calling it a 'timed failure'. The friendlies don't die based on a timer, they die if you don't move to kill the drone that is up their rear when they ping the map. This same mechanic is seen in an earlier mission, in basically the same situation. Don't waste time dogfighting random drones, focus on the mission criticals, especially when you aren't good enough at the game yet to efficiently dogfight with drones.
FFS, people have completed Mission 7 with just guns, using the A-10, which is the absolute slowest and second-least manuverable plane in the game. I did it the first time through on hard with just the stock F-16, and only failed once due to crashing into a rock after a bad approach on an XSAM.

The OP making the claim that the mission is 'broken' and that many people can't complete it is not them stating an opinion, it's them being factually wrong.

I had another look at what I wrote and I could have worded my point better, sorry about that. Wasn't meant to come off as a d!ck to you. I don't disagree with you by the way.

[Herald536]

You think that's bad... Just wait until Mission 09...

Seriously though, Chin up & keep at it, you'll get it eventually. Good luck !

[Promessa]

customer support isn't for gameplay tips lol
if you look at the achievements the mission completion rate on 7 is normal. like 70% complete 6 and 68.5% complete 7 which is about the same drop off as every other mission

[Useless Bunny]

Yeah, mission 07 is impossible. In fact, no one has been able to complete it so far, it's so outrageous that they release a game that's impossible to play!

And what are you whining about for the customer support? That you suck too much at the game to clear a misison?

[Gaser]

Wait a second.

People have problems beating mission 7?

I managed to do this mission without dieing on my first play trough with a F-4.

Also Sol squodron besides that Mister X sometimes has plot armour everything is fine with them. I would like to even know a bit more about the members of it besides Mister X.

There was almost no talking about them. (Or I missed it somehow.)

[Joker]

Originally posted by EpicD1CK:

op doesn't even own the game on steam lol.

I have it on PS4. Also, I can never get to the targets before I get a mission failed.

[Jinx]

Let me get it right, you are complaining about a mission in a game on steam witch you dont have it on. But you have it on PS4....... eh my .exe just stopped working.

[Pedro]

GET GUD
(Get throug it on every dificult with S Rank)

[Young Erusean Officer]

On my gun only run with the Mig-21 I noticed if you fly ultra slow, the drones like doing this crazy cobra that lasts forever when they notice they can't outmaneuver you at those speeds. Easy pickings. The drones are even bigger than the A-10 and Mig-31, with their whole topside turned to you they are really easy to hit with a EML or Pewpew.

[Sarumoon]

Originally posted by Joker:

Those drones are impossible to shoot down. I've failed that piece of crap at least 30 times now and no amount of practice, guides, or time is working. The drones are OP and need a nerf ASAP. Part 2 of Mission 7 is also impossible to beat for some players due to the stupid time limit with the enemy shooting down allies. That garbage needs to go.

FYI, customer support for this game is garbage. If you have an issue and email them they will ignore you.

Are you... trying to contact customer support because the game is too hard? Or is it an unrelated issue?

What are you hoping they will do? Make a very easy setting? You are playing on easy right?

[᲼᲼]

Try shooting 4aams from a distance and it shud work. Wait for the drones to get somewhat straight or like the other guys said. Shoot them down with machine gun. I completed the campaign in 12.5hrs. Only mission where I got tilted was mission 19th second part where u need to take down the arsenal bird. Took me good 4-5 tries to get it done.

[ClappingCheekers]

you should probably get gud

[Master Green Fox]

Originally posted by Hibiki Blackwing:

Originally posted by Joker:

Those drones are impossible to shoot down. I've failed that piece of crap at least 30 times now and no amount of practice, guides, or time is working. The drones are OP and need a nerf ASAP. Part 2 of Mission 7 is also impossible to beat for some players due to the stupid time limit with the enemy shooting down allies. That garbage needs to go.

FYI, customer support for this game is garbage. If you have an issue and email them they will ignore you.

so in other words you want the mission to just be handed to you on a silver platter with little to no work put into it. man it feels much better to defeat something that is tough, my advice to you is, honestly get over it as you will eventually beat it you're obviously doing something wrong just need to identify what that is... i wish you luck games should not have to hold your hand unless you're playing some kiddie game that was designed that way.

There is a reason Escort mission are almost universally hated in any game.
Case in point is the fact that trying to keep these guys alive is absurd.

On one restart of the second part I had already "failed" the mission within the first ~15 seconds because somehow an ally somewhere was already shot down in that excessively short amount of time. I had time to do the initial u-turn to give chase on the first two drones you see, and before the AI and drones even got to the first mountain grouping that is right in front of them I already was being yelled at that I was supposed to not let any of them go down. I literally had only finished turning and was just about to get into gun range.

In another case while chasing a drone behind an AI that was flying close to the mountains, the AI got hit by lightning and beefed it into the rock face. Bonus points for it happening after I killed the drone chasing it.
But clearly these issues are my faults in piloting.

Thankfully so far each of those have only happened once, but still, it is very hard to feel motivated to do a hard mission when stuff like that happens. It feels like RNG gets a lot of free reign here.
Unless those were bugs, but that doesn't really make it any better.

Though I have to admit, on my most recent failed run, watching a drone get hit by lighting and beefing it into a mountain was a bit satisfying.

[eEXM-21]

nice necro