Did anyone here actually like Avril/Scrap Queen?

[Young Erusean Officer]

She was by far the least interesting character and she overstays her welcome with how frequently and how much of the game focuses on her.

She comes off as a Mary Sue. She has her own plane and Trigger wouldn't even manage to take off technically is the only reason he manages to survive since he 'joins' the 444th Squadron. Lo and behold, this happens again at the final mission.

Sometimes it feels too much she's the real protagonist.

[psychonat4xs]

She is no where near as ManySue. She is an op character but that isn't the same as ManySue. She is not being glorified in any way, and not being the mainchar automatically disqualifies the Sue status.

[Useless Bunny]

I didn't like her right from the trailers.

She's not interesting, she was just some grumpy girl that had too much focus on the story (despite being irrelevant to it, lol) instead of other characters that should have been more explored.

[Suzaku]

This is probably a stretch but if we're looking for a Mary Sue character in Ace Combat 7, I think Trigger checks more boxes than Avril. Trigger is talented, loved by all and "the chosen one" to stop Mihaly, shoot down the Arsenal Bird and to stop the drones.

[Dr_Skoda]

Originally posted by Suzaku:

This is probably a stretch but if we're looking for a Mary Sue character in Ace Combat 7, I think Trigger checks more boxes than Avril. Trigger is talented, loved by all and "the chosen one" to stop Mihaly, shoot down the Arsenal Bird and to stop the drones.

Except Trigger is specifically called "he" and we even see his reflection during the briefing of Transfer Orders i believe.

Edit: The male term is Gary Stu, and you can probably apply this to every other silent protagonist, specifically Mobius, imo.

[Gojira destructor]

Don't like her, for essentially the reasons listed above. I also hate how she acts like she 'knows' Trigger. Can't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stand listening to her monologue. I can't say why, but I especially hate her 'adios you damn fool' at the start of Mission 10. And the way she keeps calling Trigger a dumbass. ♥♥♥♥ off Avril.

[Stand_Alone97]

The whole story could've used some fleshing out. Didn't really care for her mostly because a lot of her dialogue is either poorly translated or just poorly written. Still... Anything is better then Nagase.

[Mäsh]

She's okay. Likeable and had one or two good lines.

[ScatteredFromHelltoBreakfast]

I cannot bear the story whatsoever. I'm all skip, skip, skip even through the briefings unless I can't figure it out on my own then I have to listen to it. The Space Elevator one through me for a loop. (Spoiler alert) I protected the crap out of that helo for like a while a few times but then I actually accidentally shot at it and what do you know? Mission Completed.

[Suzaku]

Originally posted by 8x50mmR:

Originally posted by Suzaku:

This is probably a stretch but if we're looking for a Mary Sue character in Ace Combat 7, I think Trigger checks more boxes than Avril. Trigger is talented, loved by all and "the chosen one" to stop Mihaly, shoot down the Arsenal Bird and to stop the drones.

Except Trigger is specifically called "he" and we even see his reflection during the briefing of Transfer Orders i believe.

Edit: The male term is Gary Stu, and you can probably apply this to every other silent protagonist, specifically Mobius, imo.

When I said "mary sue" I was referring to the trope, not the gender of the character in question.

You're right about the other silent protagonists, except <<MAYBE>> Cipher.

[Dr_Skoda]

Originally posted by Suzaku:

Originally posted by 8x50mmR:

Except Trigger is specifically called "he" and we even see his reflection during the briefing of Transfer Orders i believe.

Edit: The male term is Gary Stu, and you can probably apply this to every other silent protagonist, specifically Mobius, imo.

When I said "mary sue" I was referring to the trope, not the gender of the character in question.

You're right about the other silent protagonists, except <<MAYBE>> Cipher.

Ok since youre bringing Cipher into this, yeah hes gotta be the most damning candidate for the title of Gary Stu, i mean...look at him.

[Dr_Skoda]

Im meaning that as a joke of course, i mean come on we basically are the biggest baddest people in history to take to the skies in this fictional world here, and somehow everyone in the world forgets that(imo), except for the reporter guy in Zero who was obsessed with Cipher.

[Useless Bunny]

Originally posted by 8x50mmR:

Im meaning that as a joke of course, i mean come on we basically are the biggest baddest people in history to take to the skies in this fictional world here, and somehow everyone in the world forgets that(imo), except for the reporter guy in Zero who was obsessed with Cipher.

They usually remember towards the final missions and after the war is over those gods of war pilots just vanish.

[Useless Bunny]

That's why Nemo is the best protagonist. It actually makes sense that he's so much better than other pilots since he doesn't have any biological limitations such as g-force and whatnot.

[628]

Originally posted by Young Erusian Officer:

Sometimes it feels too much she's the real protagonist.

I rather feel that way on Spare 2/Count, but in somewhat good way. His attitude to us, Trigger/the protagonist, is so novel, considering previous games.

[Stand_Alone97]

Originally posted by BEEP BEEP BEEP MISSILE ALERT:

That's why Nemo is the best protagonist. It actually makes sense that he's so much better than other pilots since he doesn't have any biological limitations such as g-force and whatnot.

Except that Nemo is an AI so you could just hack it or click delete and poof he is gone.