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Ninja Tuna Apr 5, 2019 @ 9:02am
Already have the SU 57, do i really need to upgrade the X-02 Wyvern?
iirc, when comparing stats it had better speed and mobility? If so the difference is too little to notice. Should i invest on that?

Sub Question: what are your parts in the SU-57?
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Useless Bunny Apr 5, 2019 @ 9:16am 
By upgrading the x-02 you mean buying its sub weapons? It doesn't have exclusive parts or anything.

X-02S blows the SU-57 out of the water in everything except PLSL which is the most OP SW in the game in 95% of the cases.
Last edited by Young Erusean Officer; Apr 5, 2019 @ 9:25am
Ninja Tuna Apr 5, 2019 @ 9:58am 
Originally posted by BEEP BEEP BEEP MISSILE ALERT:
By upgrading the x-02 you mean buying its sub weapons? It doesn't have exclusive parts or anything.

sory i wasn't clear, what i mean was upgrading from SU-57 to X-02 Wyvern. not its sub weapons.
Ninja Tuna Apr 5, 2019 @ 10:00am 
Originally posted by Young Erusian Officer:
X-02S blows the SU-57 out of the water in everything except PLSL which is the most OP SW in the game in 95% of the cases.

Thanks, do you have any good parts to suggest if i buy the X-02 Wyvern?
Useless Bunny Apr 5, 2019 @ 10:16am 
Originally posted by Century Tuna:
Originally posted by BEEP BEEP BEEP MISSILE ALERT:
By upgrading the x-02 you mean buying its sub weapons? It doesn't have exclusive parts or anything.

sory i wasn't clear, what i mean was upgrading from SU-57 to X-02 Wyvern. not its sub weapons.
The x-02 is the overall best plane in the game. If it's about single player, then it doesn't really matter, the AI is not remotely good enough to make you NEED one or the other.

If it's about multiplayer, then it comes down to special weapon and EML > any other non-lock weapon. To take someone with pulse you will need at least 3 hits on a low durability, low tier plane, while EML will take them down with a single shot. In the scenario where you are able to hit, both weapons need to hit in the same manner so why bother hitting 3+ times when you can 1-shot someone?

EML will require a little more time to get used to and master it, but in the end it will outdo any other weapon. Also it has a way longer range than any other non-lock weapon, which makes it even more powerful. Another thing is that pulse lasers do not work inside clouds, which is something that exists in every single multiplayer stage and people like to hang around clouds to avoid missiles, so you will often enough find your weapon to be literally useless.

To compensate a little bit with some balance, the X-02 has a little less point capacity for parts, but that's not really relevant since the X-02 by default has better speed and maneuverability already.
Originally posted by Century Tuna:
Originally posted by Young Erusian Officer:
X-02S blows the SU-57 out of the water in everything except PLSL which is the most OP SW in the game in 95% of the cases.

Thanks, do you have any good parts to suggest if i buy the X-02 Wyvern?

For campaign all planes:

Body/Yellow
Cutting-Edge Airbrakes Lv. 1
ECU Software Update Lv. 1
Superior Maneuverability Lv. 1
Queen's Custom

For the rest depends on your weapons/planes there's too much to list. However, in most missions except to some extent Faceless Soldiers those Body parts will do you best.

I'd avoid using all the green parts tbh
Ninja Tuna Apr 6, 2019 @ 5:43am 
Originally posted by Young Erusian Officer:
Originally posted by Century Tuna:

Thanks, do you have any good parts to suggest if i buy the X-02 Wyvern?

For campaign all planes:

Body/Yellow
Cutting-Edge Airbrakes Lv. 1
ECU Software Update Lv. 1
Superior Maneuverability Lv. 1
Queen's Custom

For the rest depends on your weapons/planes there's too much to list. However, in most missions except to some extent Faceless Soldiers those Body parts will do you best.

I'd avoid using all the green parts tbh

Thanks a lot dud
Ninja Tuna Apr 6, 2019 @ 5:44am 
Originally posted by BEEP BEEP BEEP MISSILE ALERT:
Originally posted by Century Tuna:

sory i wasn't clear, what i mean was upgrading from SU-57 to X-02 Wyvern. not its sub weapons.
The x-02 is the overall best plane in the game. If it's about single player, then it doesn't really matter, the AI is not remotely good enough to make you NEED one or the other.

If it's about multiplayer, then it comes down to special weapon and EML > any other non-lock weapon. To take someone with pulse you will need at least 3 hits on a low durability, low tier plane, while EML will take them down with a single shot. In the scenario where you are able to hit, both weapons need to hit in the same manner so why bother hitting 3+ times when you can 1-shot someone?

EML will require a little more time to get used to and master it, but in the end it will outdo any other weapon. Also it has a way longer range than any other non-lock weapon, which makes it even more powerful. Another thing is that pulse lasers do not work inside clouds, which is something that exists in every single multiplayer stage and people like to hang around clouds to avoid missiles, so you will often enough find your weapon to be literally useless.

To compensate a little bit with some balance, the X-02 has a little less point capacity for parts, but that's not really relevant since the X-02 by default has better speed and maneuverability already.

Time to grind me self some muneh, yiiet!
Arya Apr 6, 2019 @ 7:50am 
A little late replying but...

For my two cents, it's worth getting all the Fifth-Gen jets. They all do different things well, they're all worth owning. Especially the X2. Even without upgrades, it's perhaps the fastest and most agile jet in the game. And it's armed with one of the best dogfighting weapons in the game in the EML.

All the Gen-5 fighters have something going for them. The F-35 is an amazing lightweight dogfighter and it's really fun to fly. The F/22 is probably the best for Multiplayer and the second-best for Campaign. The Black Widow is a fantastic bomber and almost as fast as the X2.
Ninja Tuna Apr 6, 2019 @ 8:30am 
Originally posted by Wolfey:
A little late replying but...

For my two cents, it's worth getting all the Fifth-Gen jets. They all do different things well, they're all worth owning. Especially the X2. Even without upgrades, it's perhaps the fastest and most agile jet in the game. And it's armed with one of the best dogfighting weapons in the game in the EML.

All the Gen-5 fighters have something going for them. The F-35 is an amazing lightweight dogfighter and it's really fun to fly. The F/22 is probably the best for Multiplayer and the second-best for Campaign. The Black Widow is a fantastic bomber and almost as fast as the X2.

Just got my X-02 Wyvern, it's fast and turns like a dime :) but i just noticed that the "HardPoint Expansion" doesn't really increase your special weapons, for example it can carry 42x4AAM's but after selecting the Hardpoint Expansion it doesn't increase at all. Is this a bug?
Arya Apr 6, 2019 @ 8:16pm 
Originally posted by Century Tuna:
Just got my X-02 Wyvern, it's fast and turns like a dime :) but i just noticed that the "HardPoint Expansion" doesn't really increase your special weapons, for example it can carry 42x4AAM's but after selecting the Hardpoint Expansion it doesn't increase at all. Is this a bug?

I honestly don't know :3

I've only ever flown with the EML onboard, it feels like the perfect compliment to the Wyvern's natural speed and agility. It's so good at drawing a lead on enemy fighters, so good at positioning itself tactically for frontal shots, that the EML just feels perfect, imho.

EMLs are also pretty versatile; a single EML shot will kill anything up to a Destroyer and severely wound an Aircraft Carrier. A second will finish off literally any target in the game. Meanwhile it's also the easiest way to deal with bosses, and picks off fighters effortlessly at any range. At least once you're practiced with it.
Last edited by Arya; Apr 6, 2019 @ 8:17pm
Coyote Knight Apr 6, 2019 @ 8:28pm 
Originally posted by Century Tuna:
Hard point expansion is for A2G missiles, not A2A.
The X-02S can have up to sixty 4AAM. Makes those arkbird drone swarms really fun.
Herald536 (Banned) Apr 6, 2019 @ 10:20pm 
Yeah, You will anyway. You'll get bored of that PLSL... It does get stupid easy for the campaign..
Ninja Tuna Apr 7, 2019 @ 12:18am 
Originally posted by Young Erusian Officer:
The X-02S can have up to sixty 4AAM. Makes those arkbird drone swarms really fun.
What parts do i need to accomplish this?
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Date Posted: Apr 5, 2019 @ 9:02am
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