long day mission

[carl]

I failed it 10 times ... Any tips please ?

[Nicholas77]

I was having trouble with that one last night too man lol.

I think they key when you're having trouble is to try a different plane or SP weapon, sometimes that can work wonders.

I was using the A-10 last night, as much as I love an A-10 I think this mission might be better sutied for a faster jet.

[ash0787]

the only thing ive found so far is that if you go slightly left from the start theres an airfield with several of the large TU planes taking off from the runway, if you can get them before they take off they are worth a lot of points each, AAA and SAM seem to give about 100 to 200 points each, fighters give 400 or so but they take longer, its difficult to understand the mission objective, I thought perhaps helicopters and tanks would be worth a lot more points than say a fuel tank or AAA because the objective is to support the invading ground troops, the tanks are not worth a lot though.

[Combo]

I'm currently failling this mission too.. taking out the airplanes before they lift off give a great start.

I guess the trick is to focus on the ground units only, because planes take longer and you'll run out of missiles faster.

[Coffee Addict]

i used the A10 with the 4AGM i just flew around and blew all the ground targets to pieces i ignored all aircraft untill all the ground targets were gone

[ShadoSnake]

SU-34 was pretty good at it if you get the cluster bombs, you can really do some damage.

[Semont]

This mission is designed to teach you to use bombs, switching between main and sub weapons during the same approach, to switch targets quickly, and to prioritize when presented with SAMs, AA, and non hostile targets.

That being said, you should also learn to give up certain battles when you're playing reach the minimum score. Don't get distracted by random dogfights too much and don't circle back when you have only 2-3 targets left in an area because that's a lot of time wasted. The UAVs also count for a large number of points so make sure you have enough time to take out all ten of them.

At the beginning, you can approach the first base from the right side to take out the F16c that are trying to take off. On your return approach, hit the brakes, switch to bombs to hit two targets and then back to missiles to attack one of the bombers while lining yourself up to another bomber to spray it with your cannon. This kind of approach should be what you try to aim for every time you turn into an area with plenty of targets.


Throughout the mission you should prioritize hitting SAMs asap so they don't waste your time by forcing you to evade. You can save your missiles by shooting targets that can't fight back.

The UAVs will appear on the approach to the third base but you're not forced to fight them so you can continue to rack up more points on the easy pickings of the third base and then fight some UAVs once you take out enough targets on the ground. The UAVs should only take one missile each to kill but at very maneuverable so you should only shoot when you're around gun range since you'll have about 20 missiles or less at this point.

[carl]

ok finished with an A10 i think is called ! It was very easy with that plane ground firepower. I ignored the drones and after i finished al my missiles i went full ♥♥♥♥♥♥ with the cannons :P Game is quite good !

[Arkyra (BLZ)]

Im on Hard, with a F-16 And ive played the mission 5 times, i jus´t don´t make it in time 17000+ points is the max ive gotten so far, but needs 20 000 points to complete the mission. Kinda sucks with the time, and the AI teammates are worthless.... i remember missions like these had 20 minutes, well at least in Zero, so yea it sucks for me :D

[Lack of Stuff]

Originally posted by Johnman:

This mission really killed the game for me. After two days replaying it over and over with different planes, I give up. I realize I might not have access to the correct build to beat it, but I can't unlock any more planes or equipment, and you can't expect players to restart the whole campaign simply because they spent RSP "wrong".

How many times will I have the same problem and will have to throw away all my progress going forward? This is simply bad game design.

So there's a few things to unpack here. First is that you don't need a specific build but a specialized build may make it easier depending on the player. The A-10 is a decent early game plane that can handle the ground attack.

Second you never have to restart a campaign to get MRP. You can farm Free Play at any time to get more so restarting the campaign doesn't benefit you unless you are achievement hunting.

[carl]

Originally posted by Lack of Stuff:

Originally posted by Johnman:

This mission really killed the game for me. After two days replaying it over and over with different planes, I give up. I realize I might not have access to the correct build to beat it, but I can't unlock any more planes or equipment, and you can't expect players to restart the whole campaign simply because they spent RSP "wrong".

How many times will I have the same problem and will have to throw away all my progress going forward? This is simply bad game design.

So there's a few things to unpack here. First is that you don't need a specific build but a specialized build may make it easier depending on the player. The A-10 is a decent early game plane that can handle the ground attack.

Second you never have to restart a campaign to get MRP. You can farm Free Play at any time to get more so restarting the campaign doesn't benefit you unless you are achievement hunting.

Dropping the truth bombs

[Empyrrean]

Originally posted by btimofte100:

Dropping the truth bombs

Like a real blue checkmark

[King Fossil]

Originally posted by Lack of Stuff:

The A-10 is a decent early game plane that can handle the ground attack.

F-2 or MiG-29 are probably better to be honest. A-10 flies so badly.

[ToJKa]

Well, this is one of the very few missions where using A-10 is a good idea. I prefer the SU-34 over it though, since it's less helpless in a dogfight.

Other missions being Pipeline Destruction and Cape Rainy Assault. Others involve too much air combat.

[Lack of Stuff]

Originally posted by King Fossil:

Originally posted by Lack of Stuff:

The A-10 is a decent early game plane that can handle the ground attack.

F-2 or MiG-29 are probably better to be honest. A-10 flies so badly.

The A-10 flies better than it has any right to in this game but you don't need to it fly well in order to pass the mission. The high hp and good ground attack special weapons lend themselves well to new players who just want to clear the mission and move on.

Later when you are going for score or upping the difficulty pick a plane that can actually dogfight.

[King Fossil]

Originally posted by Lack of Stuff:

The A-10 flies better than it has any right to in this game but you don't need to it fly well in order to pass the mission. The high hp and good ground attack special weapons lend themselves well to new players who just want to clear the mission and move on.

It doesn't have high HP. The statbar is lying, test for yourself. A-10 takes 37% damage from a single SAM on ace, while F-2 takes 41%, and MiG-29 and Mirage take 33%. Nothing special about its toughness.
The ammo is really nice but that's cancelled out by it being so slow. It takes forever to fly between the bases. Faster planes save so much time that they can afford to go home and take a reload break after the second one, so in the end they have more ammo.
A-10 is a bad trap plane and should be avoided. There are better options.

Oh yeah, A-10 does have a cool gun. I forgot that for a second. That is a point in its advantage and I can't deny that. But new players who are having trouble with Long Day probably suck with guns so I still wouldn't say it's a good choice.