who is the second guy in trigger's cockpit?

[RTBear]

in the cinematics my plane has two people in it but im not sure who is in there?

[Gonzo850]

Revolver Ocelot

[Pvt. Stash]

Goose

[⚡Snake⚡Plissken⚡]

^^ This, he ends up dying,

Spoilier, in a terrible volley ball accident.

[Pvt. Stash]

Originally posted by Snake Plissken:

^^ This, he ends up dying,

Spoilier, in a terrible volley ball accident.

While Trigger is racing fighters down the base runway on his crotch rocket. Tragic.

[Arkyra (BLZ)]

Your Mom

[Taktical Taiyaki]

Many modern aircraft require multiple people to operate. I suspect you're talking about something like the WSO (weapon systems officer) on a F14 or F4. Many fighter/attack aircraft have this sort of set up.

You can find plenty online about it, but basically, the WSO helps run the... surprise! weapons! ...or other avionic systems while the pilot keeps the tin can in the air. When you start talking about real world air combat, a lot of this stuff can get very complicated with very thorough checklists/prereqs, and it takes two people to keep the whole affair in order. You can also see this kind of thing on Youtube with guys playing ARMA/sim-ish games doing the same thing - or even in something as silly as Battlefield. One guy flys and the other shoots.

Using your phone and driving is a recipe for an accident, and you sure as hell wouldn't want the guy (or gal, in this case) at the stick to be fiddling with the glass inside the cockpit. Hence the separation in roles. The devil is in the details, and all aircraft are somewhat different, but that's the gist of it.

[kitsunelegendXx]

Originally posted by Scorpion:

Many modern aircraft require multiple people to operate. I suspect you're talking about something like the WSO (weapon systems officer) on a F14 or F4. Many fighter/attack aircraft have this sort of set up.

You can find plenty online about it, but basically, the WSO helps run the... surprise! weapons! ...or other avionic systems while the pilot keeps the tin can in the air. When you start talking about real world air combat, a lot of this stuff can get very complicated with very thorough checklists/prereqs, and it takes two people to keep the whole affair in order. You can also see this kind of thing on Youtube with guys playing ARMA/sim-ish games doing the same thing - or even in something as silly as Battlefield. One guy flys and the other shoots.

Using your phone and driving is a recipe for an accident, and you sure as hell wouldn't want the guy (or gal, in this case) at the stick to be fiddling with the glass inside the cockpit. Hence the separation in roles. The devil is in the details, and all aircraft are somewhat different, but that's the gist of it.

WSO is actually the term they use for much more modern aircraft, however, in the F-14, that position is called the "RIO" or "Radar Intercept Officer". He takes care of things like weapons management, navigation, comms, radar, and target data such as identification and location relative to the aircraft. This is to help the pilot focus on the mission, and as a team, they can become a very deadly fighting force. Thats one of the reasons the F-14 was held as one of the more powerful aircraft in the US Navy's line up when it was in service.

However, not many fighter aircraft use that second seat these days iirc. And usually if they do, they're either trainers, or a very rare set up. (There is actually a two seat F/A-18 Hornet, but afaik, its rarely used. Most hornets in use by the Navy are single seaters)

Most fighters these days are actually very simplified. A good number of systems are easy to figure out for a trained pilot, which gets rid of the need for a second seat. Things like navigation, radar, and weapons management is usually just a couple button presses, and is typically set up before an engagement actually happens.

I've spent a LOT of time around actual pilots and actual sims like DCS, so I've heard a lot about this stuff. xD

[Napoleonic S]

Originally posted by Scorpion:

Many modern aircraft require multiple people to operate. I suspect you're talking about something like the WSO (weapon systems officer) on a F14 or F4. Many fighter/attack aircraft have this sort of set up.

You can find plenty online about it, but basically, the WSO helps run the... surprise! weapons! ...or other avionic systems while the pilot keeps the tin can in the air. When you start talking about real world air combat, a lot of this stuff can get very complicated with very thorough checklists/prereqs, and it takes two people to keep the whole affair in order. You can also see this kind of thing on Youtube with guys playing ARMA/sim-ish games doing the same thing - or even in something as silly as Battlefield. One guy flys and the other shoots.

Using your phone and driving is a recipe for an accident, and you sure as hell wouldn't want the guy (or gal, in this case) at the stick to be fiddling with the glass inside the cockpit. Hence the separation in roles. The devil is in the details, and all aircraft are somewhat different, but that's the gist of it.

Most modern fighters doesn't require more than a pilot to do their job.. F4 was from 60s, F14 was from 70s.

[Akumati]

It's a nugget who's passed out from the stupidly high Gs the player character pulls off.

[Zero]

Originally posted by napoleonic_sp007rz:

Originally posted by Scorpion:

Many modern aircraft require multiple people to operate. I suspect you're talking about something like the WSO (weapon systems officer) on a F14 or F4. Many fighter/attack aircraft have this sort of set up.

You can find plenty online about it, but basically, the WSO helps run the... surprise! weapons! ...or other avionic systems while the pilot keeps the tin can in the air. When you start talking about real world air combat, a lot of this stuff can get very complicated with very thorough checklists/prereqs, and it takes two people to keep the whole affair in order. You can also see this kind of thing on Youtube with guys playing ARMA/sim-ish games doing the same thing - or even in something as silly as Battlefield. One guy flys and the other shoots.

Using your phone and driving is a recipe for an accident, and you sure as hell wouldn't want the guy (or gal, in this case) at the stick to be fiddling with the glass inside the cockpit. Hence the separation in roles. The devil is in the details, and all aircraft are somewhat different, but that's the gist of it.

Most modern fighters doesn't require more than a pilot to do their job.. F4 was from 60s, F14 was from 70s.

F/A-18E is still in use. F-16 (still in use in many nations) also has a dual seat variant, the A-10C, has a dual seat trainer version.

most craft that have a strike roll, will most likely have a dual seat version since it helps with the workload a single pilot has to deal with.

[Shrimp On The New Breed]

Originally posted by Pvt. Stash:

Goose

hahah!

This!

:D

[Napoleonic S]

Originally posted by Zero:

Originally posted by napoleonic_sp007rz:

Most modern fighters doesn't require more than a pilot to do their job.. F4 was from 60s, F14 was from 70s.

F/A-18E is still in use. F-16 (still in use in many nations) also has a dual seat variant, the A-10C, has a dual seat trainer version.

most craft that have a strike roll, will most likely have a dual seat version since it helps with the workload a single pilot has to deal with.

18E is a single seater, D and F are the twin seater version both are far rarely used, then there's the G electronic attack version which also a twin seater.

Twin seater 16 is very rare and only trainer.

The most popular contemporary mainline us twin seater fighter is the 15E.

[スキニーウィッチズ]

Originally posted by Akumati:

It's a nugget who's passed out from the stupidly high Gs the player character pulls off.

♥♥♥♥ me u killed me with this one hahaha :D

[Steve C.]

Most USN Carrier Air Wings these days have four fighter/attack squadrons (VFA) and one electronic attack squadron (VAQ), along with the AEW/C (VAW) and helicopter (HSM, HSC) squadrons. (There is also a logistics (VRC) detachment, but often half their people are flying stuff from the shore.) The ones I have worked with had one F/A-18F squadron (two-seat) and three single seat squadrons (a mix of F/A-18E and F/A-18C, and soon F-35C). There are a couple of air wings with two -F squadrons though. So I wouldn't say that they are "rarely" used although they aren't in the numerical majority.

The VAQ squadrons fly EA-18G Growler aircraft, which are two-seat, although it is a downsizing from the four-seat EA-6B Prowler. Long gone are the days when you might see F-14s, F-18s, A-6s, A-7s, EA-6Bs, E-2s. and S-3s all on the same ship. These days it's all -18s, E-2s, and H-60s on the boat, at least until the F-35s show up.

I was in the plane with 5 people aboard, but having worked with the fighter guys a lot, I've heard it mentioned enough that the 'E' Hornet pilots felt like they had to juggle a lot more stuff per person in the cockpit than the 'F' Hornet crews, despite having the same avionics. The single-seat pilots often have to divide responsibilities between separate aircraft instead of between people in the same aircraft to keep the workload manageable.

The avionics can help in managing the whirlwind of information coming into the aircraft. The F-35's interface lets people do a lot of functions without as much button mashing on the screens, for instance. (It does help that it can't be seen as far out, which gives more time to mess with stuff.)

[628]

I'd name his callsign "Grip", y'know next to Trigger.