ACE COMBAT™7: SKIES UNKNOWN

ACE COMBAT™7: SKIES UNKNOWN

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Coffee Addict 2019 年 5 月 26 日 下午 3:33
machine gun only
finally decided to go for the machine gun only medal, can you use the machine gun pod? or does only the main machine gun count?
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aG| Wardog 2019 年 5 月 26 日 下午 4:50 
MGP counts, it makes the challenge almost too easy. XD
ARS 2019 年 5 月 26 日 下午 7:41 
you can use ADF11-Raven too if u have the DLC, its PLSL count as a gun, the PLSL is more easy to control than other gun that i've been try
Arya 2019 年 5 月 27 日 上午 3:24 
MGPs do count, and you're also allowed to upgrade your guns. The ADF-11F's pulse laser also counts as a gun(mysteriously).

My advice would be, use the MiG-21 and upgrade it's MGP Damage. And then put all your other upgrades into the fuselage and engines. Although it's a fragile plane, it's extremely agile and does really well even in late campaign. Bringing down the Ravens in Mission 20 with it feels great, like bringing down an alien space ship by throwing a rock :3

Rafales and Eurofighters are another very good choice. They have a massive-calibre cannon that does enormous damage when upgraded, although the rate of fire is slow and makes hitting MQ99s a little harder. Sukhois enjoy the same benefit, especially the Fullback.

IMPORTANT: After you land and resupply, your Weapon Selector switches back to missiles. Get into the habit of switching to MGP as soon as you're in the mission airspace, it's much too easy to restock midway through a long mission and then throw everything away because you forgot to re-select your MGPs.

Less important: MG-Only campaign runs are worth an enormous amount of MRP. As you go along, you earn a Round Bonus that gets bigger with each mission win. By mission 10 that bonus will be many tens of thousands of MRP, and potentially hundreds of thousands.
最後修改者:Arya; 2019 年 5 月 27 日 上午 3:26
Mattoropael 2019 年 5 月 27 日 上午 4:11 
引用自 Annie
finally decided to go for the machine gun only medal, can you use the machine gun pod? or does only the main machine gun count?

You can use MGP but not PLSL, while the Raven's built-in PLSL also counts.

Before 1.10 and the Raven, MiG-21 w/ MGP was the no-brainer choice, but if you have the Raven, it's also a very competitive choice.

With the Raven, you have unlimited ammo at Normal or Easy (which is what you want to do the challenge in) while the MiG is still limited by MGP ammo, longer effective range (~2500 maximum range, but with considerably higher velocity and better hitbox, especially with hitbox part), and considerably higher damage against ships (relevant in M11, M15, and to a lesser degree M8 and M17). On the other hand, it hates clouds.

If I remember correctly, MGP MiG-21 still kills faster against other types of targets, and it sure as hell has a much higher fire rate to somewhat compensate its lack of accuracy, but the Raven should be easier in general (other than VERY cloud-heavy missions like M7).
最後修改者:Mattoropael; 2019 年 5 月 27 日 上午 4:28
JtDarth 2019 年 5 月 27 日 下午 1:03 
引用自 Mattoropael
引用自 Annie
finally decided to go for the machine gun only medal, can you use the machine gun pod? or does only the main machine gun count?

You can use MGP but not PLSL, while the Raven's built-in PLSL also counts.

Before 1.10 and the Raven, MiG-21 w/ MGP was the no-brainer choice, but if you have the Raven, it's also a very competitive choice.

With the Raven, you have unlimited ammo at Normal or Easy (which is what you want to do the challenge in) while the MiG is still limited by MGP ammo, longer effective range (~2500 maximum range, but with considerably higher velocity and better hitbox, especially with hitbox part), and considerably higher damage against ships (relevant in M11, M15, and to a lesser degree M8 and M17). On the other hand, it hates clouds.

If I remember correctly, MGP MiG-21 still kills faster against other types of targets, and it sure as hell has a much higher fire rate to somewhat compensate its lack of accuracy, but the Raven should be easier in general (other than VERY cloud-heavy missions like M7).
When I did my MG only run, I never once ran out of MGP ammo. This may be because I saved the mgp solely for air targets and 'hard' targets like ships, while using my standard gun on everything else. For those going for the medal, difficulty doesn't matter, so just going through on easy/normal is going to be your no hassle method.
Pick up the auto-repair part, and use the other slots to pump up the mg as much as possible, since the mig is already really nimble in the first place. Use slots remaining after gun upgrades are complete to stack acceleration and top speed as best as you can. I personally stuck the auto target mg on the plane, since it only affects the standard gun, and not the MGP. This let me have the ability to take aircraft with mgp, while reducing the need for super precise flying to hit stuff at ground level while strafing ground targets.

I remember actually sitting around on mission 19 wasting MGP just to see how much bad it would take to run yourself out.
Ferrick 2019 年 5 月 27 日 下午 6:57 
if you do a MG only run in a Raven, I recommend doing it in normal or below, because the ammo is limited in Ace
Hobo Misanthropus 2019 年 5 月 28 日 上午 2:09 
I did the challenge with Mig21 MGP on Ace. It's really easy. I got an S on at least half the missions too. Strangely, one of those missions was "Dark Blue"

One thing I will mention: Stability upgrades. Important for MG accuracy. MiG21 is agile, but very unstable (It will overshoot your inputs often) so putting more stability creates a tighter controlling plane.

And don't underestimate the range of the MG/MGP, it's like 1500M, but you have to factor in bullet drop. The gun sight is only accurate out to around 800M.
最後修改者:Hobo Misanthropus; 2019 年 5 月 28 日 上午 2:11
Coffee Addict 2019 年 5 月 29 日 下午 2:35 
cant beat stonehenge with MG only, i get to the arsenal bird everything then as iam flying above SH trying to defend it i fail since it takes too much damage
RAWRmonger 2019 年 5 月 29 日 下午 2:43 
引用自 Annie
cant beat stonehenge with MG only, i get to the arsenal bird everything then as iam flying above SH trying to defend it i fail since it takes too much damage
I also had trouble with it.
IIRC I circled above the menir changing targets constantly, but also trying to gun them when convenient.
If the checkpoint is too hard, restart the mission.
最後修改者:RAWRmonger; 2019 年 5 月 29 日 下午 2:44
Hobo Misanthropus 2019 年 5 月 29 日 下午 4:18 
引用自 Annie
cant beat stonehenge with MG only, i get to the arsenal bird everything then as iam flying above SH trying to defend it i fail since it takes too much damage


Don't underestimate the range of the gun. You can blast the Arsenal Bird from a considerable distance. That should help you avoid the onslaught of getting close to it.
Coffee Addict 2019 年 5 月 29 日 下午 4:33 
arsenal bird wasnt the problem trying to take out the drones before they destroy stonehenge is, took me about 12 tries not sure what was so special about try #12 i did the exact same thing i did in the 11 other tries but somehow didnt fail it this time
Hobo Misanthropus 2019 年 5 月 29 日 下午 6:11 
引用自 Annie
arsenal bird wasnt the problem trying to take out the drones before they destroy stonehenge is, took me about 12 tries not sure what was so special about try #12 i did the exact same thing i did in the 11 other tries but somehow didnt fail it this time


Stonehenge may have had less damage on try 12, I didn't even know the drones could cause the mission to fail, I thought it was just vanity tension building.
JtDarth 2019 年 5 月 29 日 下午 6:24 
引用自 Hobo Misanthropus
引用自 Annie
arsenal bird wasnt the problem trying to take out the drones before they destroy stonehenge is, took me about 12 tries not sure what was so special about try #12 i did the exact same thing i did in the 11 other tries but somehow didnt fail it this time


Stonehenge may have had less damage on try 12, I didn't even know the drones could cause the mission to fail, I thought it was just vanity tension building.
Stonehenge probably has to be already at fail for the drones to do it. Don't they do like, a single dive volley of missles and then just sorta cluster around to annoy the player?
Coffee Addict 2019 年 5 月 30 日 下午 9:01 
well i did it i beat it using MG only, hardest mission was the stonehenge (wasnt really hard i just kept failing at the drones part for some unknown reason till the game decided i can go past it) other then that it was easy and now i never have to do it again i can finally use the A10 again
SpaceBallOne 2020 年 7 月 27 日 下午 1:59 
I just finished the campaign MGO and I found the most luck with the Raven.

The pulse laser shreds everything accurately up to 3000m, so I've found it to be way faster than missiles in some cases.
I played on easy, and used the fire extinguisher modification to help recover the damage from strafing runs and head on plane shreds.
It wasn't too bad, though I found the boss fighters in the last few missions seem to take an abnormal amount of pulse laser rounds on easy difficulty.
Even though the PLSL doesn't work in clouds, when flying in cloudy missions it's very possible to fly UNDER the clouds or OVER the clouds. There are many could breaks in cloudy missions to let your PLSL shred. Just choose and lure your targets efficiently.
In dense clouds you have to be super close for PLSL to hit, but it can be done, at around 300m.
The disadvantage in clouds does not lessen the value of the plane's speed, handling, and ability to accurately shred things farther than any other MG with better damage.

That being said, I did also experiment with other craft with MGs and I liked two the best.
The X-02s has a pretty great MG (I read somewhere else it has a 30mm), and it's very fast and agile, MG high on nose.
I used this in a handful of missions to complete my MGO campaign.
It's practicality goes without saying.

My second/almost tie with X-02 is the ADFX-01 Morgan.
I believe its machine gun is on par with the russian planes, and is mounted higher on the nose for dog-fighting.
It also has an IEWS special weapon which acts as a missile jammer!
You can use this SP weapon, keep missiles off, and not get any accidental SP weapon kills!
I really like playing with the Morgan a lot, it is more fun than the other planes.
But the other two planes do it faster, and their guns pack more of a punch.

I would have tried the run with the MIG-21 and MG Pods, but I thought I could maybe complete campaign in under 4 hours if I used the Raven. I don't know how to check my total time.

I wish Ace Combat would have included their machine gun stats, and more detailed info on plane specs.
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