Does High Ground Matter?

[i_nive]

Like, increase range of range attacks and vs. damage stats? It seems it doesn't, which is a pitty...

[Lyle]

Good question. Im getting the impression that it does matter, but it could be confirmation bias.

[JoSputnik]

I wonder too. Would be great if hills give a tactic advantage... firing range wise.
For LOS they most certainly do, since taller units also don't get blocked from all obstacles.

[Sandormen]

I have a feeling it is easier to be surrounded and shot by myriads of greenskins if I go for the higher ground. :/

[JoSputnik]

But they also would have a harder time taking cover sine you can shoot over it.

[Shrike]

I always move my land speeders up to high ground whenever possible, since it looks like this boosts their hit rate versus lower units.

[GoDLeSS1]

I noticed that it doesnt make a difference if you have a squad shooting from higher up and theres a friendly squad in the line of attack at lower ground . i.e you cant shoot over your own troops from higher up, which seems a bit strange.

Also landspeeders/flying units shouldnt really get hit by crossfire unless the fire is aimed at another air unit, their up in the air after all, but currently they do.

[JoSputnik]

Yes you can! I could shot over an obstacle that I couldnt shoot over when I was on lower ground. So I think you also could overshoot your guys but that might be a bug if you couldnt?

[Lyle]

Either way, I think Higher ground should also yield a 10-20% accuracy bonus.

And the AI made to take this into account :)

Would makes for some nice king of the hill scenarios.

[JoSputnik]

Hmm not sure if accuracy bonus would be that great. It isn't "realistic" and is maybe a too big of a bonus...?

But a view bonus of maybe 2 tiles and a wieder shot range would be nice.

[Lyle]

Originally posted by JG4_Sputnik:

Hmm not sure if accuracy bonus would be that great. It isn't "realistic" and is maybe a too big of a bonus...?

Isnt it? Perhaps not, Ive got no RL experience of combat like this :)

A melee unit attacking downwards should have some tangible advantage though, Id think.

[JoSputnik]

Well, I have; last time I shot some orks here in my hood I wasn't on higher ground but hit them as usual... ;)

Oh yes, upwards and downwards bonus/mals would be great !

I have a feeling that sometime a "hardcore" mod will be coming that takes all this and maybe more into account...

[GoDLeSS1]

Originally posted by JG4_Sputnik:

Yes you can! I could shot over an obstacle that I couldnt shoot over when I was on lower ground. So I think you also could overshoot your guys but that might be a bug if you couldnt?

Hmm ok ill have to re-test when the situation arises. I have a memory of one of the shells doing a wierd downward bend towards my own troops though. Maybe it was a random stray shot? looked completely against the laws of physics anyway :)

I think a view bonus would be cool for troops at higher elevations.

[Lyle]

Originally posted by JG4_Sputnik:

Well, I have; last time I shot some orks here in my hood I wasn't on higher ground but hit them as usual... ;)

Oh yes, upwards and downwards bonus/mals would be great !

I have a feeling that sometime a "hardcore" mod will be coming that takes all this and maybe more into account...

The issue I see with adding extra parameters is that the AI need to be tweaked in order to take advantage of it, which is something that could involve too much work for a mere mod.

[JoSputnik]

Don't scare potential modders away, please ;-p

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