Choices don't matter (Part 2)

[Iceman]

I am so sorry you have been mislead. The narrtive in the game is already set in stone. You have these illusion choices which are not even actual choices. The reason for this, ever since the walking dead season 1.

That's when this company(Tel Tale) first got sucesss, since then the choices don't matter. They are either too lazy or don't know how to make cause and effect choices. When Wolf Among us came out they also took 3 months to release ONE EP.

Proof : (http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/14/the-wolf-among-us-episode-2-finally-gets-release-window-after-3-month-delay/)

They are widly known for ignoring their fan base on their website. Having they thugs known as mods rough up anyone who doesn't agree. Play "Life is strange" its an excellent game. That have choices that DO matter.

There is actual impacts to the story and it unfolds. Basically its everything Tell Tale is not. Tale Tale is an "interactive movie" They either need actually make choices that matter or stop writing that.

[ShikenNuggets]

Originally posted by Red Steel:

You have these illusion choices which are not even actual choices.

The illusion of choice is certainly present, but just because the choices don't have a significant impact on the result of the story doesn't mean they don't matter. Part of the fun of these games is deciding which is the "right" or "best" action, even if you know it'll ultimately lead to the same result. This is a bit of a cliche thing to say, but about the journey, not just the destination.

Originally posted by Red Steel:

Tale Tale is an "interactive movie"

I don't think anybody's denying this, but not everyone sees that as a problem. I don't mind the fact that the story mostly stays the same. I'd rather have one fantastic story than 14 million branching options that are all terrible.

If you don't like the "interactive movie", then that's fine, don't play Telltale games. You know what you're getting yourself into with these.

Originally posted by Red Steel:

Play "Life is strange" its an excellent game. That have choices that DO matter.

There are 2 or 3 major choices that have a significant impact on the story, but aside from the ending choice it's the same as Telltale. The story is essentially the same no matter what.

[Iceman]

Originally posted by ShikenNuggets:

Originally posted by Red Steel:

You have these illusion choices which are not even actual choices.

The illusion of choice is certainly present, but just because the choices don't have a significant impact on the result of the story doesn't mean they don't matter. Part of the fun of these games is deciding which is the "right" or "best" action, even if you know it'll ultimately lead to the same result. This is a bit of a cliche thing to say, but about the journey, not just the destination.

Originally posted by Red Steel:

Tale Tale is an "interactive movie"

I don't think anybody's denying this, but not everyone sees that as a problem. I don't mind the fact that the story mostly stays the same. I'd rather have one fantastic story than 14 million branching options that are all terrible.

If you don't like the "interactive movie", then that's fine, don't play Telltale games. You know what you're getting yourself into with these.

Originally posted by Red Steel:

Play "Life is strange" its an excellent game. That have choices that DO matter.

There are 2 or 3 major choices that have a significant impact on the story, but aside from the ending choice it's the same as Telltale. The story is essentially the same no matter what.

Choices are supposed change the outcome. There are DOZENS of magazines who are ripping on this game offering the illusion of choice (false choice) that doesn't change anything at all. The narrtive is set in stone. However you are in luck, life is strange does not suck total and complete ass. So how about people play that instead.

[ShikenNuggets]

Originally posted by Red Steel:

Choices are supposed change the outcome.

I can understand thinking that maybe they should, or that the game would be better if they did, but... they're "supposed" to? What makes that the case?

Originally posted by Red Steel:

There are DOZENS of magazines who are ripping on this game

So what? I don't care that some random media outlet writer doesn't like the game.

And again, this is pretty standard for Telltale games at this point. If you don't like it, don't play it.

Originally posted by Red Steel:

life is strange does not suck total and complete ass. So how about people play that instead.

"I don't like this game, so everyone should stop playing it and go play this other game."

[Iceman]

Originally posted by ShikenNuggets:

Originally posted by Red Steel:

Choices are supposed change the outcome.

I can understand thinking that maybe they should, or that the game would be better if they did, but... they're "supposed" to? What makes that the case?

Originally posted by Red Steel:

There are DOZENS of magazines who are ripping on this game

So what? I don't care that some random media outlet writer doesn't like the game.

And again, this is pretty standard for Telltale games at this point. If you don't like it, don't play it.

Originally posted by Red Steel:

life is strange does not suck total and complete ass. So how about people play that instead.

"I don't like this game, so everyone should stop playing it and go play this other game."

These thugs taking your money who claim to be choice are really not. It's a false ad. I hope someone takes their ass to court. Because in America that's illegal. I am trying warn other people to don't be taken in by the flashy title. They stopped caring once they got the money.

[ShikenNuggets]

Originally posted by Red Steel:

These thugs taking your money who claim to be choice are really not. It's a false ad.

Again, everybody knows what's going on with these games. And like I said earlier, the choices not affecting the outcome much doesn't mean the choices don't matter.

[Iceman]

Originally posted by ShikenNuggets:

Originally posted by Red Steel:

These thugs taking your money who claim to be choice are really not. It's a false ad.

Again, everybody knows what's going on with these games. And like I said earlier, the choices not affecting the outcome much doesn't mean the choices don't matter.

Maybe if we stopped paying them so much money they actually have energy to get off their fat behinds and work on the game. They are literally stealing money from folks with the false ads.

[ShikenNuggets]

Originally posted by Red Steel:

Maybe if we stopped paying them so much money they actually have energy to get off their fat behinds and work on the game.

They are working on the game... just because you don't think the game is good doesn't mean they aren't working on it.

[Iceman]

Originally posted by ShikenNuggets:

Originally posted by Red Steel:

Maybe if we stopped paying them so much money they actually have energy to get off their fat behinds and work on the game.

They are working on the game... just because you don't think the game is good doesn't mean they aren't working on it.

Tell Tale has a long history not caring what its fans think. It might as well be slapping our face and spitting on us. For shame. I wish they refund everyone the money who they lied like a dog about choices mattering.

[ShikenNuggets]

Well, you've clearly already made up your mind about this company and this game, so why are you still here? If you don't like their games, that's fine, don't buy them, don't play them.

[Iceman]

Originally posted by ShikenNuggets:

Well, you've clearly already made up your mind about this company and this game, so why are you still here? If you don't like their games, that's fine, don't buy them, don't play them.

I am here to warn other people against the very serious mistake this game has choices. They need to know they been lied to despite it saying it did have choices. Then to encourage people to think carefully. Because I'm a nice person.

[ShikenNuggets]

Originally posted by Red Steel:

They need to know they been lied to despite it saying it did have choices.

It does have choices. The choices don't have a significant impact on the outcome of the story, sure, but there are choices.

[Iceman]

Originally posted by ShikenNuggets:

Originally posted by Red Steel:

They need to know they been lied to despite it saying it did have choices.

It does have choices. The choices don't have a significant impact on the outcome of the story, sure, but there are choices.

It's an illusion choice its a fake choice. It's not a serious actual choice.

[ShikenNuggets]

Originally posted by Red Steel:

It's an illusion choice its a fake choice. It's not a serious actual choice.

As I said before, yes, it's the illusion of choice in the sense that they don't have a significant impact on the overall narrative, but that doesn't mean the choices are "fake". You're making a real choice, and your choice has a real impact (a small one, but it's still there).

[Iceman]

It does not change the narrtive that system is set in stone. If they want REAL CHOICES Go get "Life is strange"

[ShikenNuggets]

Originally posted by Red Steel:

It does not change the narrtive that system is set in stone.

That's true. Nobody's denying that. I simply don't see that as a problem (and, considering how many people play these games, it seems a lot of people don't see this as a problem).