Whats next UL?A Che guevera T shirt??

[Redarmy]

I have uninstalled your game and i will not be pursuing interest in SOD3.

You lost a customer and im feel im not alone in saying this.

KEEP POLITICS AND PANDERING OUT OF GAMING!

[Hypnosis]

Nguyên văn bởi starchaser:

LOL, communism won WW2, while useless americans and brits sitted behind the sea, landing only after Stalingrad, after Prohorovka, after destruction of majority of germanian forces - like they waited which side they supposed to support, more ideologically close Germany or their supposedly-allied USSR.

It transformed nearly-medieval societies with over 90% of population living in subsistence into industrial giants with large urban centers within decades after winning civil wars in respectable countries (like the USSR and China).

It created the most equal society, instead of modern western model where 1% of population own around 50% GDP, rich grow only richer while common people can't afford to have children. And it catered needs of majority, not vocal minorities - sometimes very repulsive, like the LGBT crowd. Yes, supporting whims of splinter factions just because their vote easier to sway, is madness to the society.

Democracy killed far more people than any communist repressions - even if look after WW2. From Vietnam and Korea to the Iraq and Syria.

That's why after fall of the USSR was so much disappointment with pro-western democracy in Russia, how much living standards had declined after USSR era (despite promises of Clinton best friend, Eltsin) - and now solid majority think it was a tragedy.

You're so wrong. You have a very very very ignorant point of view. Communism killed way more than any western country in the last 100 years

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes

Some not mentioned, or reported correctly in this article:

Chinese communist revolution: 55 million deaths
Chinese poison Vietnamese: 80 million deaths
Russian Gulag: 2 million
Deaths under Stalin: 20 million


Now let's compare that to your examples:

Vietnam war: 1,310,000 deaths
Iraq War: Documented civilian deaths from violence is 183,535 – 206,107


Also, Western Democratic countries have much better economy. That's a fact.


TRY AGAIN, you muppet.

[Fenris]

Nguyên văn bởi Albatross:

Liberal brainrot above. I forget how little your average westerner knows about anything, let alone about communism.

Perhaps you could at least attempt not to be an utter cliche? Do you have anything remotely educational to refute anything? Copping out like this just tells everyone you can't stick up for your beliefs.

[Fenris]

Nguyên văn bởi starchaser:

LOL, communism won WW2, while useless americans and brits sitted behind the sea, landing only after Stalingrad, after Prohorovka, after destruction of majority of germanian forces - like they waited which side they supposed to support, more ideologically close Germany or their supposedly-allied USSR.

It transformed nearly-medieval societies with over 90% of population living in subsistence into industrial giants with large urban centers within decades after winning civil wars in respectable countries (like the USSR and China).

It created the most equal society, instead of modern western model where 1% of population own around 50% GDP, rich grow only richer while common people can't afford to have children. And it catered needs of majority, not vocal minorities - sometimes very repulsive, like the LGBT crowd. Yes, supporting whims of splinter factions just because their vote easier to sway, is madness to the society.

Democracy killed far more people than any communist repressions - even if look after WW2. From Vietnam and Korea to the Iraq and Syria.

That's why after fall of the USSR was so much disappointment with pro-western democracy in Russia, how much living standards had declined after USSR era (despite promises of Clinton best friend, Eltsin) - and now solid majority think it was a tragedy.

You might be more of a capitalist than most Americans!!!! You're here bragging about the economic success of stalin's government (even though it was short lived and only existed in the first half of the ussr), while you completely ignore the millions who starved to death. It's as if a communist doesn't care about millions of people dying and that you only care about economic success. How ironic and convoluted!

Also like the other guy said, that democracy killed more bs is a myth. American politics aren't perfect, but we've never massacred millions of our own people for the sake of politics. Between Vietnam and Korea slightly more than 100,000 americans died, Even if you multipled that number by a 100 and said 10 million people died between those two conflicts, that number would still pale in comparison to number of people starved to death in the soviet's Iron Curtain and in Mao's great leap forward. Technological innovation is not an excuse to starve your citizens to death.

[CannonFodder]

slaves and natives don't count as your "own people"?

[Glaston]

These shirts should be on the zombies in order to properly represent reality.
Clothing with these logos and ideas on them in current times is nothing more than a brand. It's the cool thing to do now and that's ALL it is! It's just a trend.
Nobody is changing anything with these shirts. They're just selling shirts.
The people who buy them are playing revolutionary. It's dress up, like little kids playing cowboys and Indians. There is no substance to this.

[Hypnosis]

Nguyên văn bởi g.free.guy:

These shirts should be on the zombies in order to properly represent reality.
Clothing with these logos and ideas on them in current times is nothing more than a brand. It's the cool thing to do now and that's ALL it is! It's just a trend.
Nobody is changing anything with these shirts. They're just selling shirts.
The people who buy them are playing revolutionary. It's dress up, like little kids playing cowboys and Indians. There is no substance to this.

Facts. They are also virtue signaling. They must be really terrible people behind the scenes.

"I LIKE PUPPIES THO"

[Fenris]

Nguyên văn bởi CannonFodder:

slaves and natives don't count as your "own people"?

Valid point. Nothing about slaves or natives has anything to do with communism vs. capitalism though. That is conflation on your part. Any strong nation can oppress a weak nation, whether its the soviet Iron Curtain where tens of millions of foreigners were starved to death in Stalins great famine, or whether it's the oppressed uighurs in china. It doesn't have anything to do with economics it's just evil. People are even calling what the uighurs are experiencing right now genocide. (ironically the situation the Uighurs are experiencing is akin to the situation native americans experienced. The Han chinese, largest demographic in the world, is colonizing their territory in western china and incidentially the local Uighurs are being placed into reeducation camps).

In any case it's a conflation because every country has oppressed people when their country was founded. Natives and slaves weren't afforded rights and were not american citizens. When it comes to a conversation about what political system is better for its own citizens, there's just no comparison. Democracies that are capitalist in nature don't sacrifice millions of their own citizens for economic gain. Communists do.

[0utlaw]

You cannot argue with communists and even worse people who support communism in the modern day. With the wealth of information on how horrible the ideology and a sheer body count in just the last short 100 years that people in current year actually worship such a failed and blood thirsty ideology is beyond reason and immune to logic.

[LArc7thHeaven]

Nguyên văn bởi starchaser:

LOL, communism won WW2, while useless americans and brits sitted behind the sea, landing only after Stalingrad, after Prohorovka, after destruction of majority of germanian forces - like they waited which side they supposed to support, more ideologically close Germany or their supposedly-allied USSR.

It transformed nearly-medieval societies with over 90% of population living in subsistence into industrial giants with large urban centers within decades after winning civil wars in respectable countries (like the USSR and China).

It created the most equal society, instead of modern western model where 1% of population own around 50% GDP, rich grow only richer while common people can't afford to have children. And it catered needs of majority, not vocal minorities - sometimes very repulsive, like the LGBT crowd. Yes, supporting whims of splinter factions just because their vote easier to sway, is madness to the society.

Democracy killed far more people than any communist repressions - even if look after WW2. From Vietnam and Korea to the Iraq and Syria.

That's why after fall of the USSR was so much disappointment with pro-western democracy in Russia, how much living standards had declined after USSR era (despite promises of Clinton best friend, Eltsin) - and now solid majority think it was a tragedy.

Subversion complete. Only when the real commie kick his ass and send him to gulag that he finally realized that communism is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but it's too late. Enjoy the gulag and starve to death

[Fenris]

Nguyên văn bởi 0utlaw:

You cannot argue with communists and even worse people who support communism in the modern day. With the wealth of information on how horrible the ideology and a sheer body count in just the last short 100 years that people in current year actually worship such a failed and blood thirsty ideology is beyond reason and immune to logic.

Yes you can, and furthermore you have to. The only communists that exist today are old idealists who refuse to believe that "real communism" isn't possible, who will probably never be convinced otherwise just like nazi's or racists and the like, and young communists who are naive enough to believe the bs older communists peddle without doing their own critical thinking and research. We're on a steam forum, so if people are going to condone communists and communist tendencies as if starving millions of people to death is acceptable, you have to debate them. It's your moral obligation to tell them they're wrong as a sane human. And since we're on a steam forum there's still a possibility people aren't 100% convinced of their beliefs and that rational dialogue is helpful.

[BasenjiMaster]

Give it a rest. Politics discussions are not permitted on Steam.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810