Do anyone actually wants the soldiers enclave?

[Desmond]

Like I love the idea of the soldiers enclave so I recruited them so many times, but they mostly have "good" health, and horrible stats, close combat spec, marathon running, and assult guns.... those are horrible and they got almost never a good special, I my favorit soldier was a combat medic I lost her when I played while having covid.... but since I pretty much never gotten a single good soldier with good stats.

I heard people say they have good weapons.. they have AKs and the US main issue one and both are using those 5 or 7 mili ammo that are too expensive and hard to get, nothing is amazing about them... so do people like them cause they are soldiers or do people like those stats?

[Protectron]

7.62 is obviously better than any other type of ammo, and they are not hard to get.

The Soldiers often have Discipline as an option for Mental specialization, which is by far the best option.

What I must say, though, is that previously, the Soldier enclave members tended to have no 5th skill, Driving, Engineering, Munitions or Chemistry. Other 5th skills than this was a rare find, so you could trust them to fill out the blanks when you recruited them to go to 12 survivors. Most had no 5th skill, which is of course the best option when you already have 9 survivors.

The last 6 months or so, the devs did something to make the possible 5th skill of the Soldiers enclave completely random. The same goes for the Alcoholics enclave; before, just Bartending, no 5th skill and Chemistry. Now, you're lucky to get a single Bartender.

So, I have resorted to the Community Editor to simply fix the first trio that I recruit for the 10th-12th survivor so they have no 5th skills. I try to not look at the other things while doing so.

Meaning that the Soldiers enclave are not as good now as they used to be previously.

[BioFringe]

I want the Soldier Enclave for the Knowledge of Munitions and that's about it.

[❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃]

Soldier survivors generally have better % traits and better average trained skills (takes less time to master) compare to standard survivor.

One time, I gave up faith recruiting standard survivors after 8 of them in a row on one map just straight up garbage traits. Then one soldier enclave spawned and when its time to recruit one of them the one I chose to recruit turned out to have "Military Contractor" & "Never Been Sick" & "Audio Engineer"

[Desmond]

Originally posted by ❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃:

Soldier survivors generally have better % traits and better average trained skills (takes less time to master) compare to standard survivor.

One time, I gave up faith recruiting standard survivors after 8 of them in a row on one map just straight up garbage traits. Then one soldier enclave spawned and when its time to recruit one of them the one I chose to recruit turned out to have "Military Contractor" & "Never Been Sick" & "Audio Engineer"

That is not true, it is 100% random, soldiers tends to have traits that are soldier related and those tends to be close combat, assult not always but most soldier traits are that.

soldiers being better than average people nope.

[❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃]

Originally posted by Desmond:

Originally posted by ❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃:

Soldier survivors generally have better % traits and better average trained skills (takes less time to master) compare to standard survivor.

One time, I gave up faith recruiting standard survivors after 8 of them in a row on one map just straight up garbage traits. Then one soldier enclave spawned and when its time to recruit one of them the one I chose to recruit turned out to have "Military Contractor" & "Never Been Sick" & "Audio Engineer"

That is not true, it is 100% random, soldiers tends to have traits that are soldier related and those tends to be close combat, assult not always but most soldier traits are that.

soldiers being better than average people nope.

says someone with no proofs and solid counterargument.

I literally shared what I've got last week playing in SOD2 in my FC. Minus the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ survivors recruited as a whole enclave (3), the 5 others survivors all from 5 different enclaves with different associations and backgrounds (no soldiers) and all have at least 1 crappy trait. The first soldier enclave I got on that map and worked my way to able to recruit one have those traits.

You on the other hand need to shut the ♥♥♥♥ up and bring evidence if you want to provide different insight.

Edit: If you think you know so much about soldier type enclaves why even ask here if you are not going take other people's opinion with a grain of salt and just straight up reply by splashing them with a bucket of water.

[X]

I get up to 9 then I will recruit the soldiers so I have 12, beds sometimes are an issue but hey it works out in the end.
They have had real good hero bonuses in my game.

[Desmond]

Originally posted by ❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃:

Originally posted by Desmond:

That is not true, it is 100% random, soldiers tends to have traits that are soldier related and those tends to be close combat, assult not always but most soldier traits are that.

soldiers being better than average people nope.

says someone with no proofs and solid counterargument.

I literally shared what I've got last week playing in SOD2 in my FC. Minus the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ survivors recruited as a whole enclave (3), the 5 others survivors all from 5 different enclaves with different associations and backgrounds (no soldiers) and all have at least 1 crappy trait. The first soldier enclave I got on that map and worked my way to able to recruit one have those traits.

You on the other hand need to shut the ♥♥♥♥ up and bring evidence if you want to provide different insight.

Edit: If you think you know so much about soldier type enclaves why even ask here if you are not going take other people's opinion with a grain of salt and just straight up reply by splashing them with a bucket of water.

Survivors of this encalve type are guaranteed to have one of the following Traits when recruiting them:

Airsoft Commando My friends and I used to practice squad tactics in the woods. Not one of us lost an eye. Outdoor Living
(+2 Beds)

Army Grunt Don't call me sir. I worked for a living.
Discipline
Assault
Firearms Training
(+50% Shooting XP Rate)

Army Motor Pool I maintained NTVs at a base in Europe. Never saw combat until the outbreak.
Discipline
Automechanics
Driver Training
(+25% Fuel Efficiency)

Army Veteran We're all soldiers now, whether we enlisted or not.
Discipline
Assault
Veteran Instincts
(Unlocks Rooftop Recon)

Combat Medic I know how to treat common injuries in the field, though some people say I overmedicate. +15 Max Meds Storage
+25% Fatigue Severity (Community)
Sometimes wastes medicine
Combat Medicine Field Medicine
(+20 Max Health)


Culinary Specialist In the military, you eat what they give you, but I try to make it more tolerable.
Discipline
Nutrition
Consistent Routine
(+1 Labor)

Designated Marksman I trained hard to keep my squad alive when the enemy was out of everyone's reach but mine. Morale Bonus from Shooting training facilities Sharpshooting Veteran Instincts
(Unlocks Rooftop Recon)

Former Lieutenant
From a Military Family
Military Contractor
Military Police
National Guard
Navy Veteran
Reservist
Sniper
Special Forces C

Soldier from soldier enclaves get 1 of the following traits. the rest are random.

Cause I dont see the point of people wanting close combat specalists and assult specialty as they mentioned before they reduced the likelyness of having more useful skills so they nerfed them, as before tehy were more likely to be better and they arent now... thats why I asked as most of the time now they are quite bad and dont have good traits as before they usually had more good traits or at least some good talents so they could been like carpenter, medic, mechanic etc.

[❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃]

Originally posted by X:

I get up to 9 then I will recruit the soldiers so I have 12, beds sometimes are an issue but hey it works out in the end.
They have had real good hero bonuses in my game.

how do u get over 9 limit though? It just says your community is full

[Protectron]

Originally posted by ❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃:

Originally posted by X:

I get up to 9 then I will recruit the soldiers so I have 12, beds sometimes are an issue but hey it works out in the end.
They have had real good hero bonuses in my game.

how do u get over 9 limit though? It just says your community is full

By canceling the enclave project of the Soldiers, Alcoholics or Mechanics. They will then join you as a trio.

[JustinGayme.TTV]

Originally posted by Protectron:

7.62 is obviously better than any other type of ammo, and they are not hard to get.

The Soldiers often have Discipline as an option for Mental specialization, which is by far the best option.

What I must say, though, is that previously, the Soldier enclave members tended to have no 5th skill, Driving, Engineering, Munitions or Chemistry. Other 5th skills than this was a rare find, so you could trust them to fill out the blanks when you recruited them to go to 12 survivors. Most had no 5th skill, which is of course the best option when you already have 9 survivors.

The last 6 months or so, the devs did something to make the possible 5th skill of the Soldiers enclave completely random. The same goes for the Alcoholics enclave; before, just Bartending, no 5th skill and Chemistry. Now, you're lucky to get a single Bartender.

So, I have resorted to the Community Editor to simply fix the first trio that I recruit for the 10th-12th survivor so they have no 5th skills. I try to not look at the other things while doing so.

Meaning that the Soldiers enclave are not as good now as they used to be previously.

Edit.d nvm someone answered already

Can you tell me more about going 12 survivors and recurring enclave people without a 5th skill?

I currently have 9 or 10 survivors and it says I cannot recruit from enclave, cannot recruit from legacy, and cannot recruit from red talon radio call. I’d love to find a way to get more survivors with a blnak final skill slot.

[Protectron]

Originally posted by JustInGaymeTTV:

Originally posted by Protectron:

7.62 is obviously better than any other type of ammo, and they are not hard to get.

The Soldiers often have Discipline as an option for Mental specialization, which is by far the best option.

What I must say, though, is that previously, the Soldier enclave members tended to have no 5th skill, Driving, Engineering, Munitions or Chemistry. Other 5th skills than this was a rare find, so you could trust them to fill out the blanks when you recruited them to go to 12 survivors. Most had no 5th skill, which is of course the best option when you already have 9 survivors.

The last 6 months or so, the devs did something to make the possible 5th skill of the Soldiers enclave completely random. The same goes for the Alcoholics enclave; before, just Bartending, no 5th skill and Chemistry. Now, you're lucky to get a single Bartender.

So, I have resorted to the Community Editor to simply fix the first trio that I recruit for the 10th-12th survivor so they have no 5th skills. I try to not look at the other things while doing so.

Meaning that the Soldiers enclave are not as good now as they used to be previously.

Edit.d nvm someone answered already

Can you tell me more about going 12 survivors and recurring enclave people without a 5th skill?

I currently have 9 or 10 survivors and it says I cannot recruit from enclave, cannot recruit from legacy, and cannot recruit from red talon radio call. I’d love to find a way to get more survivors with a blnak final skill slot.

Yeah 9 survivors is normally the limit. Going up to 12, which is the hard cap, requires special missions.

Going to 10 is possible in several ways; the police brother personal mission; one other personal mission (can't remember which atm); recruting the runaway from the Mechanics or Soldiers special enclaves; recruiting the inside man in the Warlord Legacy endgame missions; hiring a Red Talon Contractor.

Going to 12 is also possible in several ways: There are 4 special enclaves who offers to join as a trio when certain conditions have been met.

* The Pathetic Survivors will eventually offer to join if you give them food enough times; they are very bad survivors, though; with multiple negative traits and usually useless 5th skills.
* The Mechanics Enclave will first want you to help them locate a broken-down Norma as their first misison. The second mission is when they want to move into a Secken's Auto Repair. If you refuse, they will later offer to join.
* The Soldiers Enclave first mission is first a rescue mission as one of them is bogged down in an Infestation. He then wants you to help take out another Infestation, and upon completion you're to take him back to his base. The second mission is when they want to return to their previous base. If you refuse, they will later offer to join.
* The Boozehounds Enclave first mission is a rescue mission where one of their members have been on a real bender and wakes up in an Infestation - you take him back to his base afterwards. The second mission is the one where they want to set up a still, but need some Parts to do so. If you refuse, they will later offer to join.

The two latter are the primary targets for this, as the Alcoholics (which is what I call them) quite often have Chemistry, no 5th skills or Bartending. The Soldiers have been a bit nerfed, as I mentioned earlier, but they are still good additions to your team, despite not having Gunslinger. Often very good traits and a good chance of having Discipline.

[❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃]

Originally posted by Protectron:

Originally posted by ❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃:

how do u get over 9 limit though? It just says your community is full

By canceling the enclave project of the Soldiers, Alcoholics or Mechanics. They will then join you as a trio.

oh.

[Protectron]

Oh, and you go to 12 when you finish the Builder Legacy, So if you finish Legacies and then continue playing anyway, doing it with a Builder first will easily let you go to 12.

[❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃]

On one hand I always want to go over 9 but on the other hand I'm find with 9 people or 10 tbh.