Why doesn't G18 AUTO CUSTOM work on FOLLOWERS?

[billy_blue69]

Going to turn in a ticket to UL. The G18 AUTO CUSTOM is a FULL AUTO version of a GLOCK. When I give it to my follower it does SINGLE shot only. There is NO SINGLE SHOT selection on it just FULL AUTO. When I take the gun from him is shoots FULL AUTO. This is crap. Several other people in here told me to give FBI fighting rifle and other guns to followers. NONE of them will shoot full auto. Not even burst. The Dillinger pistol was another option gave it to someone and NOPE only single shot. No burst. No auto. Crap.

[billy_blue69]

This NOT ACCEPTABLE. Fix this before all these other stupid little quality of life updates. This is WHY you choose which weapons your followers use. Why even have followers? I don't need them for ANYTHING at all. All they do is pull out there little knives and prance around like Geralt. I gave one my best people the FULL AUTO G18 and a zed jumped right on him and started eating him. WHAT!? USE your FULL AUTO PISTOL you idiot!!!

[Kitty Eater]

If you want to use a weapon on a follower:
1. Must have it selected as it's current used weapon. So you have to jump on that character and switch to it.
2. Weapons are used based on their first setting than what you have it set on the character. Ex:
Single > Burst/Semi Auto > Full Auto; The single will always be used first. Only a hand full of weapons in the game has Full Auto only. Like the FBI rifle from the bounty. I put that on my survivors. One with a Devru.

If you ask why I use the FBI weapon, because it has a color on it instead of the typical black/grey. Is it the better or the best full auto only primary weapon? Idk.

[billy_blue69]

Had to do 2 step verification just to go to UL to turn in a ticket. They said my code was invalid that they sent me on my phone. LOL. It is the code you sent me. I told them I will send them a code now that I came up with and they can type it in and send it to me to verify who THEY ARE.

[billy_blue69]

Originally posted by Kitty Eater:

If you want to use a weapon on a follower:
1. Must have it selected as it's current used weapon. So you have to jump on that character and switch to it.
2. Weapons are used based on their first setting character than what you have it set on. Ex:
Single > Burst/Semi Auto > Full Auto; The single will always be used first. Only a hand full of weapons in the game has Full Auto only. Like the FBI rifle from the bounty. I put that on my survivors. One with a Devru.

My one follower I gave the G18 Auto to I took ALL his weapons and chose that gun for him to use. It ONLY has FULL AUTO option. He somehow does SINGLE shot only with it. If I take it from him it shoots FULL AUTO just fine. Same with FBI fighting rifle and every other gun I give to my people. All they do is single shot or jump out with their knives.

[Kitty Eater]

Originally posted by billy_blue69:

Originally posted by Kitty Eater:

If you want to use a weapon on a follower:
1. Must have it selected as it's current used weapon. So you have to jump on that character and switch to it.
2. Weapons are used based on their first setting character than what you have it set on. Ex:
Single > Burst/Semi Auto > Full Auto; The single will always be used first. Only a hand full of weapons in the game has Full Auto only. Like the FBI rifle from the bounty. I put that on my survivors. One with a Devru.

My one follower I gave the G18 Auto to I took ALL his weapons and chose that gun for him to use. It ONLY has FULL AUTO option. He somehow does SINGLE shot only with it. If I take it from him it shotts FULL AUTO just fine. Same with FBI fighting rifle and every other gun I give to my people. All they do is single shot or jump out with their knives.

They ain't going to fully unload or go to town with the weapon. It's more like a more frequent burst.

[Morbidius]

I loaded up my community where all of my survivors are equipped with FBI Fighting Rifles and they shot 3 bullets (full auto) all the time when they shot at enemies.

I use no mods and never have. If you use mods it's most likely a mod that causes that behavior for you since "vanilla" game works just fine.

[Protectron]

The G18 Custom Auto, Dillinger Pattern 1911, RTX Rampart, MP40 Submachine Gun and M3 Grease Gun all sound like single-fire when used by NPCs, but actually fire 5, 4, 3, 5 and 4 bullets per "pop" respectively.

The Dillinger has 20 bullets in the magazine, and the NPCs fire 5 times before reloading, meaning that each pop is really 4 bullets. The G18 Custom Auto works the same way; they reload it after 10 shots. The RTX Rampart has 9 bullets in the magazine, and needs to be reloaded after 3 "shots".

You can tell by the damage done as well. With an Advanced Brake, one guy with a G18 Custom Auto kills a Juggernaut on Lethal with something like 12-13 "shots", or a little over twice the amount of rounds needed with a .50 rifle while being 9mm.

[billy_blue69]

Originally posted by Protectron:

The G18 Custom Auto, Dillinger Pattern 1911, RTX Rampart, MP40 Submachine Gun and M3 Grease Gun all sound like single-fire when used by NPCs, but actually fire 5, 4, 3, 5 and 4 bullets per "pop" respectively.

The Dillinger has 20 bullets in the magazine, and the NPCs fire 5 times before reloading, meaning that each pop is really 4 bullets. The G18 Custom Auto works the same way; they reload it after 10 shots. The RTX Rampart has 9 bullets in the magazine, and needs to be reloaded after 3 "shots".

You can tell by the damage done as well. With an Advanced Brake, one guy with a G18 Custom Auto kills a Juggernaut on Lethal with something like 12-13 "shots", or a little over twice the amount of rounds needed with a .50 rifle while being 9mm.

So when I shoot the G18 it sounds like I am "raining fire" and when my follower uses it there is just a single little pop? Sounds odd. I will try again and pay close attention to damage.

[billy_blue69]

Originally posted by Morbidius:

I loaded up my community where all of my survivors are equipped with FBI Fighting Rifles and they shot 3 bullets (full auto) all the time when they shot at enemies.

I use no mods and never have. If you use mods it's most likely a mod that causes that behavior for you since "vanilla" game works just fine.

I have modded headlights and flashlights. Did not work before that mod either. Not sure how headlight increased draw distance could affect followers using full auto or burst mode on their firearms. :)

[Protectron]

Originally posted by billy_blue69:

Originally posted by Protectron:

The G18 Custom Auto, Dillinger Pattern 1911, RTX Rampart, MP40 Submachine Gun and M3 Grease Gun all sound like single-fire when used by NPCs, but actually fire 5, 4, 3, 5 and 4 bullets per "pop" respectively.

The Dillinger has 20 bullets in the magazine, and the NPCs fire 5 times before reloading, meaning that each pop is really 4 bullets. The G18 Custom Auto works the same way; they reload it after 10 shots. The RTX Rampart has 9 bullets in the magazine, and needs to be reloaded after 3 "shots".

You can tell by the damage done as well. With an Advanced Brake, one guy with a G18 Custom Auto kills a Juggernaut on Lethal with something like 12-13 "shots", or a little over twice the amount of rounds needed with a .50 rifle while being 9mm.

So when I shoot the G18 it sounds like I am "raining fire" and when my follower uses it there is just a single little pop? Sounds odd. I will try again and pay close attention to damage.

Yes the sound is off and it has been like this since 2018. However, it isn't exactly the same as a single-fire shot either. It is "longer" than a single-fire sound, and the muzzle flash also lasts longer. So basically, these guns have a very fast fire rate and the developers haven't managed to make a good enough burst fire sound for these guns in particular. The only pistol calibre full-auto gun that sounds right is the Raider's Uzi 22. EDIT: in the hands of NPCs

[billy_blue69]

That is strange that "programmers" can't make the gun fire sound the same on non player as what comes from the player. The programming is already there. Oh, well. Probably the same reason they won't allow anyone to throw a zed off a cliif. The ragdoll effect is already there but they won't let you do it. Seems to me like you could copy/paste this effect. They do it on all the gas stations, pubs, houses. Same house everywhere you go. Just scratch my head on some of this stuff.