Did they ever fix AI?

[Donte]

I've played it few years ago on gamepass and my main gripe was how bad AI of our companions is, They were not even trying to be stealthy or efficient which ended up with big resource loses to keep them up in shape to the point I was going solo everywhere.
I bought this few weeks ago during sale and after many updates this game got I was thinking that developers did something about this,I am not much more past tutorial but I've taken companions for a few trips and to me it seems it's not any better. Can anyone confirm this? Are companions still more harm than good?

[worm_master]

I'm on dread, an i solo it, lol so it's no hassle for me... BUT when i have brought sum 1, lets just say, more trouble then their worth... Not even good as mules, a car is far better.

So far as i'm concerned only thing their good for is Z distraction.

[DragynDance]

AI is worse, apparently the guy who was doing AI left some time ago, and it's only gotten worse since the current AI is a massive spaghetti code mess no one wants to unravel.

[Soy Mutant]

there is a mod that fixes the ai - it's caled "basic training"

[DragynDance]

Basic training isn't an AI mod, it doesn't even touch AI at all, it's a cheat mod that adds a bunch of OP facilities and increases stats of followers. All of the "kryptonian" mods are cheat mods.

[Soy Mutant]

Originally posted by DragynDance:

Basic training isn't an AI mod, it doesn't even touch AI at all, it's a cheat mod that adds a bunch of OP facilities and increases stats of followers. All of the "kryptonian" mods are cheat mods.

I didn't use it myself, but had people try it and confirm that it made survivors behave better.

[DragynDance]

Originally posted by TheIconicThinkingGamer:

Originally posted by DragynDance:

Basic training isn't an AI mod, it doesn't even touch AI at all, it's a cheat mod that adds a bunch of OP facilities and increases stats of followers. All of the "kryptonian" mods are cheat mods.

I didn't use it myself, but had people try it and confirm that it made survivors behave better.

It makes survivors "better" because it gives them 90% damage reduction and immunity to blood plague.

[Soy Mutant]

Originally posted by DragynDance:

It makes survivors "better" because it gives them 90% damage reduction and immunity to blood plague.

I see! Well, sounds like a good workaround at least.

[JohnMcHobo]

AI does well as a helper and will not start fights on its own (to the point where zombies have to hit it to trigger fighting).
AI is terrible at retreating from a fight, not very good at fighting hostile humans and can´t make use of consumables and throwables.

So on day to day looting and fighting operations they are nice to have around, just think twice about bringing them to high-risk operations, because that is likely to kill them.
They are never detrimental to have though.

[katsuragi]

Originally posted by JohnMcHobo:

AI does well as a helper and will not start fights on its own (to the point where zombies have to hit it to trigger fighting).
AI is terrible at retreating from a fight, not very good at fighting hostile humans and can´t make use of consumables and throwables.

So on day to day looting and fighting operations they are nice to have around, just think twice about bringing them to high-risk operations, because that is likely to kill them.
They are never detrimental to have though.

This is a pretty good description of it.
Biggest issue is their lack of self-preservation when things go south and you want to get the hell out. Worst thing you can do is try to save them. They'll get killed, you'll get killed, everyone will be sad.
Best thing you can do when they charge into certain death is to run away as fast as possible. If you have a car, get in and drive. Don't wait for your helper, don't even look their way, just go go go.
See, the game only tracks what's happening around you. If you can distance yourself from your helpers suicide attempt, it won't even happen. Get far far away then open your map and you'll see that your helper is is running back to you, complaining that you should slow down.

[DragynDance]

The main thing that kills them in my experience isn't straight damage, it's blood plague. In lethal, and even nightmare, they go to 100% blood plague after being bit only once, and build up real fast after even just normal attacks.

[Sкiткj3ll]

I mostly bring AI with me as pack mules while doing loot runs and nothing more basically. Overall, if you go out to destroy plague hearts and other more "demanding" stuff, I'd say they're a detriment. You're way better off just soloing that stuff.

I'd love to see better AI, but I don't think that will happen in SoD 2, sadly.