It's truly impressive how bad the PC version is

[Amogus]

I don't know how they did it, but somehow the PC version, despite being the same version as the console version, is buggier than the console version. From about 100 hours of playtime on the Xbox prior to running out of Game Pass Ultimate, I had not one single bug/glitch happen to me. However, after snagging the game on sale and and playing 7 hours on the PC, I have experienced the following:

1. Survivor died and their body disappeared and, as such, was unlootable
2. Constantly getting stuck on random junk on the ground
3. Zombies lagging/teleporting while wandering around
4. Zombies that are running at me will teleport right in front of me mid-lunge and hit me with no chance to dodge or attack back
5. Bloater getting hit by my car despite being 20 feet away and nowhere near close enough to hit it (I checked a recording to make sure it wasn't an invisible bloater)

Number 5 led to my survivor dying since I had gotten some heavy trauma from a spontaneous horde due to escorting a survivor to a warehouse and suddenly getting a "help clear the area of zombies" event that spawned ~30 zombies. When the bloater exploded for no reason, my car got covered in bloater gas and I got out. However, as soon as I got out, I got downed and had to button mash to get back up. Since I was right outside of the car door, I would instantly get downed again and ended up dying from it.

It's impressive how a single player game w/ multiplayer turned off can have lag, yet here we are. It's even more impressive that it can not only have lag in single player, but also be buggier on PC than console despite them both being the same version of the game and supporting crossplay. I don't know how they did it, but somehow this game is better played on console despite being the exact same thing.

[CrappyBark]

1) You took too long to get to them before they turned into a zombo. They'll show up eventually, could be as a dead zombie somewhere else on the map, can show up in hordes, have been seen at infestations. It'll show up

2, 3, 4) computer issue, as in either software or hardware. Could be lag, could be something in the background spiking in resource usage. Don't have chrome open in the background and make sure windows isn't updating and eating resources like a hog as it's known to do. Never had anyone in my friend group suffer any of these and one of them is playing on a toaster of a laptop

5)It's a feature, not a bug. Bloaters proxy explode next to vehicles and 20 feet is accurate for their range. Maybe a little farther too. It's to be anti vehicualr so you have to be careful around zombies with cars.

[Shelt]

This is CLEO. Your patience is appreciated.

[Honelith]

Bloaters can self explode or they'll randomly explode wiping out their own horde, I just assumed they're unpredictable by nature.

I've played this for over 50 hours on gamepass and now over 10 hours on Steam and never noticed teleporting enemies, but now I'll be watching for that to see if it does happen.

What's your PC specs.

[Amogus]

Originally posted by CrappyBark:

1) You took too long to get to them before they turned into a zombo. They'll show up eventually, could be as a dead zombie somewhere else on the map, can show up in hordes, have been seen at infestations. It'll show up

2, 3, 4) computer issue, as in either software or hardware. Could be lag, could be something in the background spiking in resource usage. Don't have chrome open in the background and make sure windows isn't updating and eating resources like a hog as it's known to do. Never had anyone in my friend group suffer any of these and one of them is playing on a toaster of a laptop

5)It's a feature, not a bug. Bloaters proxy explode next to vehicles and 20 feet is accurate for their range. Maybe a little farther too. It's to be anti vehicualr so you have to be careful around zombies with cars.

1. I died inside of my base from a siege and immediately switched to another survivor and their body disappeared

2-4. The whole lie about "hardware issues" being used as an excuse all day long gets old because this game has been out before the 30 series even existed and my PC far exceeds the hardware of an Xbox Series X, yet it performs worse than the Series X because this game was extremely unoptimized when I bought it years ago on the Windows store and still unoptimized to this day when I buy it on Steam. I never had a single performance-based problem with this game on the Series X whatsoever (frame lag, zombies teleporting, stuck on props, etc.), yet I have constant frame drops to 30-45 FPS (I posted PC specs lower down).

5. I've cut some pretty close calls on bloaters before and have never had them proximity explode up until now. Keep in mind that this bloater was far enough away that even opening my car door wouldn't have hit them and I've never had that happen before on the Series X despite constantly driving by bloaters on a regular basis and only setting them off when I accidentally hit them directly or a door-happy follower hit them with it. It also doesn't help that the game trapped me in an infinite loop of going down because, despite being outside of the car, I kept taking damage from it and getting instantly knocked back down again.

Originally posted by Honelith:

Bloaters can self explode or they'll randomly explode wiping out their own horde, I just assumed they're unpredictable by nature.

I've played this for over 50 hours on gamepass and now over 10 hours on Steam and never noticed teleporting enemies, but now I'll be watching for that to see if it does happen.

What's your PC specs.

I've never had a bloater self-detonate from the 100 hours spent driving all over the place on the Series X, but after hearing about a recent update, I suspect it might've had a hand in this because I'm seeing a lot of posts about game crashes after the Curveball update

As for specs, I have the following:

- i7 8700k (marginally better than what is stated to be the PC equivalent of the Series X processor)
- RTX 3090
- 32GB DDR4-3600 RAM
- Game running on a Samsung 980 EVO M.2 drive

I can understand performance-based issues with a game AT MOST. However, when I start experiencing symptoms that are found on laggy multiplayer servers in a single player game, that's when it becomes ridiculous. I shouldn't be having zombies teleporting when hitting me, rubberbanding while walking backwards, and the multitude of other network-based issues when I'm playing single player. If I had multiplayer enabled, I could maybe accept that it was happening, but I booted the game with multiplayer disabled and was able to pause the game, so it was 100% in single player.

[Tax evasion]

This game suffers from some really bad performance issues even on high end pc, especially in trumbull valley. And don't even get me started with horror stories about bloaters spawning out of thin air and exploding inside your car while you were driving.

[Amogus]

Originally posted by Tax evasion:

This game suffers from some really bad performance issues even on high end pc, especially in trumbull valley. And don't even get me started with horror stories about bloaters spawning out of thin air and exploding inside your car while you were driving.

It's sad that nothing really improved performance-wise since I got the game ~4 years ago. I remember it being rather unoptimized when I got it and was impressed just how well it ran on the Series X. When I came back to PC, I was expecting it to feel just as nice as it did on the Series X, but of course I was proven wrong by the many exhibits of bugs/glitches that had not once plagued me on the Series X.

[CrappyBark]

Originally posted by  Maximum Glove Gaming :

I've never had a bloater self-detonate from the 100 hours spent driving all over the place on the Series X, but after hearing about a recent update, I suspect it might've had a hand in this because I'm seeing a lot of posts about game crashes after the Curveball update

I have owned this on PC since before juggernaut edition, their proximity explosion has been in the game for years, this isn't a recent development

Have good system specs is one thing, having a well maintained system is another. If you're not taking care of the computer it will have worse performance than a console. Maybe the reason why you "never had a problem on xbox" is because there the maintenance and upkeep was handled for you?

[Amogus]

Originally posted by CrappyBark:

Originally posted by  Maximum Glove Gaming :

I've never had a bloater self-detonate from the 100 hours spent driving all over the place on the Series X, but after hearing about a recent update, I suspect it might've had a hand in this because I'm seeing a lot of posts about game crashes after the Curveball update

I have owned this on PC since before juggernaut edition, their proximity explosion has been in the game for years, this isn't a recent development

Have good system specs is one thing, having a well maintained system is another. If you're not taking care of the computer it will have worse performance than a console. Maybe the reason why you "never had a problem on xbox" is because there the maintenance and upkeep was handled for you?

This may be the first time in my life I've heard someone blame "PC hygiene" for why someone is having bad frame rate

If I can get pristine FPS on every single game that I play apart from games that people universally have problems with due to optimization, don't you think that would suggest that something's wrong with the game and not the hardware? This game doesn't deserve to put that much load on a RTX 3090, i7-8700k, Samsung 980 EVO M.2 drive, and 32 GB of DDR4-3600 RAM. I may play in 4K, but I was also playing in 4K on the Series X and have never had lag on the Series X nor issues with playing any other game in 4K on my PC where I had to turn the resolution down to get better frame rates.

These maps are minuscule by comparison to other games and the render distance is pathetic unless you're using the zoom feature on a weapon. The game can't render a screamer across the street half the time, so it's clearly not rendering zombies from anything beyond 50-60 meters and yet you think this game deserves to put that much strain on a high-end gaming PC? The recommended specs on the Steam page don't hold a candle to my PC, yet I have performance issues?

[Honelith]

You have a good system, I take it you're not using mods for SoD2? It's bizarre you're getting these warping issues, wonder what may be causing it. I noticed that warping issue sometimes in online coop, but it never happens when I don't host or join someone else's game.

Try disconnecting from your internet and launching SoD 2 to make sure it's not hosting your games and see if it improves performance. Seems a lot of players are reporting issues with update 34 like you mentioned in your earlier post, so could be tied to that then?

[Sc0rpiTr0n]

"1. Survivor died and their body disappeared and, as such, was unlootable"

If survivor died from Blood Plague that survivor turned to zombie and
you'll encounter them eventually with all their stuff on them.

If survivor died to something else and body is not there their stuff
are automatically placed in your locker.

Check locker to see if dead survivor stuff are there.

[Cultist]

Recently it's constant CTD for me. Never had this issue before, except maybe once or twice. Now it's every other play session.

[WarBucks]

if a character dies in base their stuff is auto deposited. Had plenty of characters died in my base lol

[Amogus]

Originally posted by WarBucks:

if a character dies in base their stuff is auto deposited. Had plenty of characters died in my base lol

Originally posted by Sc0rpiTr0n:

"1. Survivor died and their body disappeared and, as such, was unlootable"

If survivor died from Blood Plague that survivor turned to zombie and
you'll encounter them eventually with all their stuff on them.

If survivor died to something else and body is not there their stuff
are automatically placed in your locker.

Check locker to see if dead survivor stuff are there.

They died from getting beat to death and I'm unsure as to whether they died fully infected or not

If that's the case, then I assume that's what happened. I didn't get a pop-up like you normally get when a survivor's loot gets deposited in the locker and her gun/melee weapon didn't appear in the locker after she died.

Originally posted by Honelith:

You have a good system, I take it you're not using mods for SoD2? It's bizarre you're getting these warping issues, wonder what may be causing it. I noticed that warping issue sometimes in online coop, but it never happens when I don't host or join someone else's game.

Try disconnecting from your internet and launching SoD 2 to make sure it's not hosting your games and see if it improves performance. Seems a lot of players are reporting issues with update 34 like you mentioned in your earlier post, so could be tied to that then?

No mods for me

I do have a suspicion that it's tied to the recent update since it just so happened to come out a week or two before all of this. There's absolutely no reason why this game should be as relatively buggy as it is compared to when I played it a few months ago and had absolutely no issues whatsoever.

As an added note, I was on the roof of a gas station with a horde of plague zombies underneath me from an infestation at the building next store and a plague zombie teleported up on the roof and instantly grabbed me and got me infected. I never had that happen a single time previously, so add that onto the list of bugs that have occurred recently.

[Sc0rpiTr0n]

Originally posted by  Maximum Glove Gaming :

As an added note, I was on the roof of a gas station with a horde of plague zombies underneath me from an infestation at the building next store and a plague zombie teleported up on the roof and instantly grabbed me and got me infected. I never had that happen a single time previously, so add that onto the list of bugs that have occurred recently.

This is very old bug.
I got that quite a few times waaay before recent update.

Though Curveball update do seem to bring new bugs
and game seems to me more crash happy than before.

I think I will take a break until next update that will hopefully
fix some of this stuff including that annoying sleeping animation bug.

[Jinkel92]

Today's developer don't test their games and to me they aren't professional developers.