State of Decay 3 is dead

[Keny]

Microsoft acquired Undead Labs in 2018
game was announced 2020
3 microsoft e3 events happened and no news , nothing ,
game is dead

[thelittlegear]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Doctor Darling:

Eh, considering how long Dead Island 2 went from announcement to actually coming out, I can't really think a game is dead or not after being quiet for a while.

So much this o7

[XYX]

Opprinnelig skrevet av MalvadoCrow:

Microsoft acquired Undead Labs in 2018
game was announced 2020
3 microsoft e3 events happened and no news , nothing ,
game is dead

I really dont care unless they greatly improve and expand the base building.

[Noobmaster55]

Dead or not, it ain't coming out any time in 24/25. thats my take on it. probably after 26 or early 2027.

[WolfWall]

CRY BABY

[Team Triss]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Protectron:

Opprinnelig skrevet av LoR Team Triss:

Where's this coming from?

The primary focus of race/gender ideologues and other Marxist-inspired ideologies is NOT to work for a privately owned corporation in order to let its shareholders earn a lot of money. Their primary focus is racial justice and/or a dissolution of gender roles. Often these ideologues go even farther; as they are often radical socialists or communists, which goal is to tear down all institutions of society and even all of society and rebuild it from ground up in their ideological image.

In other words, by hiring based on race, gender or sexuality rather than experience, education and skill, Undead Labs has possibly invited saboteurs posing as social justice activists into their midst. Every conversation in the office is a death dance on razor-edged eggshells, every meeting is a minefield of "microaggressions" and the company will be hard-pressed to produce anything at all because the business have pivoted from producing video games to sensitivity training, in-fighting and backstabbing.

That's what DEI does to any company. The ones who are hurt the most by this practice are the ones who it is supposed to help.

No no no I get all that, I mean where is the idea that Undead Labs is doing all the DEI shenanigans coming from?

[Team Triss]

Got it, thank you! Was wondering what I was missing.

Yikes!

[PandoraWolfCrow]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Milkless Tea:

Unless it's a different game then it's dead for me.

lol

[PandoraWolfCrow]

Opprinnelig skrevet av thelittlegear:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Doctor Darling:

Eh, considering how long Dead Island 2 went from announcement to actually coming out, I can't really think a game is dead or not after being quiet for a while.

So much this o7

of course....then too : Diablo was like that..;dead island....dying light 2 ^^ , and so much.....

[PandoraWolfCrow]

that's always communities that destroy and make dying viedos games , developments too ^^) about talking about ♥♥♥♥♥ and fake news or else taht never takes sens

[Boston21]

SoD3 is in development. Watch the streams by Undead Labs and check out the YouTuber named Sunny Games, as he covers State of Decay. It's not that hard to do some research online.

[$2 Hero]

It’s coming. Can’t you tell Microsoft trying to take over the gaming world

[Neon Noodles]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Dirty Wizard:

Microsoft...

Oh look another 0 steam level, private account spewing violently misogynistic, transphobic, racist garbage.

Kinda funny that Its always the one's hiding their face that spew the worst crap.

Anyway, the fact of the matter is, SOD3 is delayed because Undead Labs was never supposed to be the next Activision. It came together to make State of Decay 1 and barely survived the State of Decay 2 release but it was already drowning in internal messes by the time Microsoft bought it literally a month later. Those issues have still not been resolved, thus no serious development has occurred.

That is all.

[Dirty Wizard]

Opprinnelig skrevet av AFD86:

violently misogynistic, transphobic, racist garbage.

"This person is all the ists, I'm not going to quote him or anything, just trust me, also speech is the same as violence"

Oh look another one of the people I'm talking about

[Neon Noodles]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Dirty Wizard:

"This person is all the ists, I'm not going to quote him or anything, just trust me, also speech is the same as violence"

Alright, here we go then.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Dirty Wizard:

Microsoft HR nepotism-hired a bunch of women and "diverse" people who proceeded to focus on petty office politics and social media instead of actually doing their jobs.

This is a racist and sexist statement because you're implying that by simply being women \ poc, those people aren't focused on their job, with zero proof.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Dirty Wizard:

If a lot of people are rejecting your opinions "even on basic matters" it's more likely you're just incompetent.

Again, a pretty sexist comment considering it also is said with zero proof, and was said in in response to this quote from the article,

"Another said that women's opinions, even on basic matters, were often "outright rejected," and that "no one would listen to them, even women in director-level positions were outright ignored, talked over, and blamed for problems."

So somehow women experiencing misogyny is there fault for being inherently incompetent? That's pretty damn sexist.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Dirty Wizard:

Anyone who uses the phrase "white cishet man" seriously in a sentence should not be allowed anywhere near a professional software development environment.

Literally just blatant transphobic comment. You're saying that someone shouldn't be allowed in professional software development simply because they respect a wider spectrum of gender then what you do.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Dirty Wizard:

changes at Undead Labs in recent years included "an entirely new leadership team" and that 42% of new hires in 2021 were female or non-binary, and 29% were from a visible minority group.

There's really nothing I need to say about the above quote, it speaks for itself. 71% of hires were based on features other than competence at their job, most likely because they were friends on social media with HR.

Microsoft bought this small but extremely successful company, filled it with incompetent narcissists hired because of identity politics, and work on their product grinded to a halt as a result.

Again, there's zero evidence for this claim. You're just assuming all of these people were hired because they were POC\Women or had friends with the company and that they're incompetent at their job, again, because they were POC\Women. Sexist and Racist.

AND FINALLY

Opprinnelig skrevet av AFD86:

Oh look another 0 steam level, private account spewing violently misogynistic, transphobic, racist garbage.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Dirty Wizard:

also speech is the same as violence"

Oxford Dictionary, "Violent," second definition: "Showing or caused by very strong emotion." As in "The whole thing became the subject of a violent controversy."

- Violent [www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com]

All of this to say, all that politically motivated hate speech was targeting the most vulnerable groups in society to blame them for a game not coming out, again, with zero evidence.

State of Decay 3 was delayed because Undead Labs has a host of issues, not because they added some diversity into their company.

Cheers.

[Dirty Wizard]

Opprinnelig skrevet av AFD86:

This is a racist and sexist statement because you're implying that by simply being women \ poc, those people aren't focused on their job, with zero proof.

That's fair to point out, some/most of them probably were focused on their jobs. But they were hired for aspects of their identity rather than their qualifications, and after they were hired, the company devolved into bickering and office politics. They'd single team members that they hated out. They'd cry in meetings. It was a ♥♥♥♥ show.

The online tabloid media is sympathetic to their narrative so it gets reported in a way that makes them look like the good guys.

Opprinnelig skrevet av AFD86:

Again, a pretty sexist comment considering it also is said with zero proof, and was said in in response to this quote from the article,

"Another said that women's opinions, even on basic matters, were often "outright rejected," and that "no one would listen to them, even women in director-level positions were outright ignored, talked over, and blamed for problems."

So somehow women experiencing misogyny is there fault for being inherently incompetent? That's pretty damn sexist.

This was one person's anecdote, and was most likely about themselves not being listened to in meetings because they were incompetent. Every loud incompetent person will use whatever victim card on hand to explain why everyone rolls their eyes when they pipe up.

If you read the articles, you'll find that there was a woman in management, Anne Schlosser, that didn't seem to have any problem being "listened to" except, ironically, by the very people who were screeching about misogyny and sexism. It sounds like she actually tried to get them to work, which they wouldn't have reacted well to. They hated her because she didn't toe their line and wasn't part of their clique.

So which is it? Were women's opinions listened to or not?

Opprinnelig skrevet av AFD86:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Dirty Wizard:

Anyone who uses the phrase "white cishet man" seriously in a sentence should not be allowed anywhere near a professional software development environment.

Literally just blatant transphobic comment. You're saying that someone shouldn't be allowed in professional software development simply because they respect a wider spectrum of gender then what you do.

I'm saying that they are in a social media cult and this is their cult language, and "white cishet man" is their evil outgroup that they use like a slur and blame for everything. Proof of this is literally right there in the quote. Anyone who uses language like this is broadcasting that they will not be able to work on a team with other people without causing rifts and drama.

It's kind of hilarious that you don't see your own hypocrisy here. But then that's par for the course with cults. They're always built on double standards.

Opprinnelig skrevet av AFD86:

Again, there's zero evidence for this claim. You're just assuming all of these people were hired because they were POC\Women or had friends with the company and that they're incompetent at their job, again, because they were POC\Women. Sexist and Racist.

The link I gave literally says they were hired on the basis of "diversity" which means they were excluding members of the majority from the hiring pool. When you do that, you're selecting from a smaller pool which means you're necessarily going to be hiring less qualified individuals. There's nothing sexist or racist about that, it's very simple high-school level math. How do you not understand this?

I'll make it as simple as possible:

If 20% of each candidate pool is qualified, and you have 100 red candidates and 30 green candidates, that means you've got 20 qualified red candidates but only 6 qualified green candidates.

If you then try to fill up 20 job placements by only selecting from the minority green group, you're going to end up with 6 qualified individuals and 14 unqualified individuals.

Please tell me you at least understand this.

Opprinnelig skrevet av AFD86:

AND FINALLY

Opprinnelig skrevet av AFD86:

Oh look another 0 steam level, private account spewing violently misogynistic, transphobic, racist garbage.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Dirty Wizard:

also speech is the same as violence"

Oxford Dictionary, "Violent," second definition: "Showing or caused by very strong emotion." As in "The whole thing became the subject of a violent controversy."

- Violent [www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com]

All of this to say, all that politically motivated hate speech was targeting the most vulnerable groups in society to blame them for a game not coming out, again, with zero evidence.

But this is text, and it's text that doesn't show particularly strong emotion. So is speech violence or not?

Opprinnelig skrevet av AFD86:

State of Decay 3 was delayed because Undead Labs has a host of issues, not because they added some diversity into their company.

Cheers.

Every source states that Undead Labs started having issues after the Microsoft aquisition. You are in blatant denial because this doesn't fit with your cult narrative that the evil cishet white males are to be blamed for everything. But the facts are that those evil cishet white males managed to crank out 2 very decent games, before being inundated with new hires. Then the productivity of the company was completely destroyed, there are stories of unhinged behavior such as crying in meetings, and the product itself is now in development hell.