Followers are useless!!!

[Bro Of Metal]

May I ask why do we even have the option to enlist a follower? This option is just completely useless from all possible things. Followers just exist, they are just an extra backpack. They don't know how to help you, they don't know how to dodge, they can't even freaking hit their target even at 2 meters away. They always end up dead, always not knowing what to do when surrounded by a horde. At this point I got mad because, even with mods, "Basic Training Mod" or "Smart AI Human", they still can't help you properly. I wish there were commands in order to tell your follower to, SHOOT THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ JUGGERNAUT, instead of getting stuck in him, trying to melee him, dodging into him so you get stuck. Decide whether your follower should use the melee weapon or the ranged weapon. Anybody else going in missions but mostly ALONE? No followers at all? Because the way they are right now, it's just better for them to stay inside the base. KEEP THEM INSIDE THE BASE SO YOU DON'T LOSE THEM. For real, it's like they are pets ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ !!! What a waste, complete waste!

[Bro Of Metal]

Originally posted by Cr8ToR:

Pro tip. Hire allied people for small amount of influence to act as meat shield lm Even if they die community will stay if more than 1 survivor is alive. It costs onky influence and you dont risk your own people

Of you can have that enclave benefit from the military guys that provides Zero Cost Follower.

[Bro Of Metal]

Originally posted by SOXITOAN:

Originally posted by Cr8ToR:

Pro tip. Hire allied people for small amount of influence to act as meat shield lm Even if they die community will stay if more than 1 survivor is alive. It costs onky influence and you dont risk your own people

Of you can have that enclave benefit from the military guys that provides Zero Cost Follower.

But then again, they only represent a meat shield and a backpack. And then we people say to respect them, treat them as a partner when we use them as bait. XDDDD

[Cr8ToR]

Originally posted by SOXITOAN:

Originally posted by SOXITOAN:

Of you can have that enclave benefit from the military guys that provides Zero Cost Follower.

But then again, they only represent a meat shield and a backpack. And then we people say to respect them, treat them as a partner when we use them as bait. XDDDD

I use them as a mobile trading station xD

[Dusky]

I play on NM difficulty and I have found the followers are pretty good, I had a plague juggernaut attack the ranger's base, I kept it's attention while the others, with other zombies still attacking them screamers and bloaters included, did a great job of shooting it enough so I could jump on it and stab it in the head. It sucks that you have had such a frustrating run with followers. Not to say they are perfect, I have had a few close calls where a follower just stands there while I get my face munched on by a plague zombie.
I do have to look after them a bit though and occasionally one does die but not very often.

[JackChan]

Originally posted by Wildberrie:

I play on NM difficulty and I have found the followers are pretty good, I had a plague juggernaut attack the ranger's base, I kept it's attention while the others, with other zombies still attacking them screamers and bloaters included, did a great job of shooting it enough so I could jump on it and stab it in the head. It sucks that you have had such a frustrating run with followers. Not to say they are perfect, I have had a few close calls where a follower just stands there while I get my face munched on by a plague zombie.
I do have to look after them a bit though and occasionally one does die but not very often.

Indeed! they are real good especially during low resources...e.g ammo :D

[Le Deflagosseur]

Originally posted by Metro:

Originally posted by Le Deflagosseur:

@BattlePanda: They didn't, they don't fix things like that, instead they come up with new stuff every now and then and people are all like: "oh wow these devs are great, they really take good care of their game" while things that were broken on day one still are.

Bad AI is a fair criticism but you can't dismiss the amount of support the game still gets years after launch without being some DLC money grabbing scheme.

True, I am thankful for all the nice stuff they came up with, I just feel like AI should have been prioritized. It makes me laugh how they put an emphasis on "not going out alone" in radio messages and some handwritten signs you can see in the game while having such a terrible behavior on followers and AI in general, like enclaves telling you to come in when they need help while they run out the back door the moment you enter their house xD

Truly great devs would've fix that years ago.

[jrgoertzen]

Never bring your survivors as followers. Hire followers from enclaves. While they can't carry loot that you want to bring back, they are basically a mobile store. You can sell all the stuff you would normally sell to enclaves. And if they die, you're only out 100 influence. Because, yeah, AI is terrible at combat. In general, I just try to bring enclave followers when I'm looting an area. If I am assaulting hearts or going into a high-combat area, I'll cut them loose if I'm not wanting them to die.

[Bro Of Metal]

Originally posted by jrgoertzen:

Never bring your survivors as followers. Hire followers from enclaves. While they can't carry loot that you want to bring back, they are basically a mobile store. You can sell all the stuff you would normally sell to enclaves. And if they die, you're only out 100 influence. Because, yeah, AI is terrible at combat. In general, I just try to bring enclave followers when I'm looting an area. If I am assaulting hearts or going into a high-combat area, I'll cut them loose if I'm not wanting them to die.

Well, the only issue here as followers is that you risk them to die if you bring them with you. That's the only problem here.

[Cr8ToR]

I tested few weapons for followers.
The FBI rifle does miracles with followers, they turn Super Sayain with them :D

[Planewalker]

BetterEnclaves.pak makes followers go stealth when you crouch.
It even tweaks them to be nearly too passive (Lethal mode).
Can be found on nexus.

[lolic_lol]

I even used followers even to destroy plague walls in Heartland. They make combat much easier. Of course, if you prepare them.
Use Boost Endurance in Infirmary. Give your companion a machine gun with some ammo, a Zedrenaline pill, and Enhanced Plague Cure bottle. Switch to a companion, use Zedrenaline, then Enhanced Plague Cure, and switch back. Done.
You have the Terminator as your assistant, who is immune to the Plague, to injuries, regenerates health and stamina, and has an infinite ammo.

[lolic_lol]

Or you can use the Hades Menu mod from the nexus to recruit all your survivors at once and clear the map with a small army )
But it's more l4d like.

[Cr8ToR]

Originally posted by lolic_lol:

Or you can use the Hades Menu mod from the nexus to recruit all your survivors at once and clear the map with a small army )
But it's more l4d like.

lol i must try this xD

[Striker]

I play on NM mode and I always have a follower. The big benefit of followers is Infinite ammo, but they always default to weakest gun. So all my followers have a mele weapon and a shotgun or rife that only has full auto mode. No side arm. No semi-auto. No sniper (they have terrible accuracy). They generally stay quite when you do and default to mele weapon unless you do something loud. Ideally, give them an auto shotgun and kite all the zombies while your followers slowly but surely kill them all with out using ammunition or reducing weapon durability

[billy_blue69]

YES!!! Followers are useless!!! They are at BEST cannon fodder or bantha poodoo.