daybreak - easier to solo

[ELED3L]

i watched a guy on youtube about soloing it, and he was not even good, used a controller and missed a bunch of shots, thats when i realised its probably much easier to solo

i am very disappointed, i tought this will be a hard challange, because i lost a lot of rounds with coop partners, but turns out that ai teammates are more useful, because they dont use ammo

i saw a bunch of guides, they are useless, all i done was this:
start with shotgun or rifle, when you are out of ammo, just swap to the other, when thats out you should have a CLEO weapon from a drop, and more than enough ammo for it

[Aesyle]

I've found it's easier to complete Daybreak in MP game, than in solo. In solo, i've completed it, but only once. Since it's the 5th wave that almost always gets me.

There are plenty of guides to read, when soloing Daybreak, e.g: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2178656789

Overall, when you play solo, yes, you have more ammo to go by with (in the 3 chests) but you have to do most of the work yourself (collect CLEO drops, repair walls, heal tech) since the 2 other Red Talon NPCs only shoot zeds. Also, in solo, there are 3 players, you and 2 NPCs.

In MP, there can be up to 4 players and if they all are good, it's a breeze to win Daybreak. My biggest grief of MP Daybreak is the latency issues since many hosts i join, have poor net connection speed, making the zeds out of sync. Often in MP, i have to shoot twice for my shot to register.

[ELED3L]

Originally posted by Aesyle:

I've found it's easier to complete Daybreak in MP game, than in solo. In solo, i've completed it, but only once. Since it's the 5th wave that almost always gets me.

There are plenty of guides to read, when soloing Daybreak, e.g: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2178656789

Overall, when you play solo, yes, you have more ammo to go by with (in the 3 chests) but you have to do most of the work yourself (collect CLEO drops, repair walls, heal tech) since the 2 other Red Talon NPCs only shoot zeds. Also, in solo, there are 3 players, you and 2 NPCs.

In MP, there can be up to 4 players and if they all are good, it's a breeze to win Daybreak. My biggest grief of MP Daybreak is the latency issues since many hosts i join, have poor net connection speed, making the zeds out of sync. Often in MP, i have to shoot twice for my shot to register.

i dont know why you linked a guide when i said they are useless, and followed my own tactics and won easy for first time.
I clicked it anyway and of course its another useless guide, because immediately its says you need the blast rifle - you dont need it, you can do it with the default equipment and the cleo drops...

ai not using ammo made the game easier for me, because when you join with random people, they use up everything and when it comes to 4th or 5th wave its over.

I done around 5 game with randoms, the only time we won was a guy with the rifle dealing with Juggernauts fast, and planting a bunch of mines on the technician. Every other time it was lost before wave 6

Yes i have to do everything, but collecting drops and repairing walls are easy because the game leave enough time for that between waves

and you mentioned the lagg, ohh yes, thats the worst part of the game, when i join a game, the sync lagg is so bad, its almost unplayable sometimes

[Aesyle]

I fail mostly at 5th wave in solo because of the loads of armored zeds. Sure, i know that i can knife them fast from the back side, when not having melee weaopn, but i'm still one person, while 2 NPCs deal little damage to armored zed. Heck, few armored zed can eventually even take a wall down before NPCs gun it down.

For me, i had to check several guides and learn the tricks in Daybreak solo, since i don't do well in fast-paced 1st/3rd person games. I need time to think and react.

My solo Daybreak tactics are 1:1 to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bD8Y1x3J18
Following this, i eventually managed to win. But before that, i tried on my own and couldn't even get past 3rd wave.

Btw, linked guides/videos aren't for you but instead for anyone else who happens on this topic, searching more info on how to deal with Daybreak in solo.

In the end; solo Daybreak is easy for you, difficult to me and impossible to someone out there. (Since i'm having far more success in MP Daybreak, i'm doing these, instead of solo runs. Currently, i have everything unlocked + 18K prestige + all Red Talon prefabs + CLEO relay + CLEO Heavy Sniper in my community. Oh ~800 CLEO ammo as well. But from time-to-time, i like doing MP Daybreak.)

[Boboscus]

Saying guides are useless just because you are too lazy to read and you'd see they mention meta and stuff that greatly improves your odds at winning and makes it easier. So just because you "found" the most tedious of ways to finish it it doesn't mean the others are wrong. lol Imagine being this edgy. And of course it's gonna be easier than random COOP games with players of varying skill where each one boosts the zombie strength and numbers, less variables that make the game harder so a higher chance of success. Being good would mean clutching a 4 man COOP Daybreak by yourself, then you can say guides are useless. lol

[ELED3L]

Originally posted by Boboscus:

Saying guides are useless just because you are too lazy to read and you'd see they mention meta and stuff that greatly improves your odds at winning and makes it easier. So just because you "found" the most tedious of ways to finish it it doesn't mean the others are wrong. lol Imagine being this edgy. And of course it's gonna be easier than random COOP games with players of varying skill where each one boosts the zombie strength and numbers, less variables that make the game harder so a higher chance of success. Being good would mean clutching a 4 man COOP Daybreak by yourself, then you can say guides are useless. lol

im not lazy, you are lazy, you didnt read what i said
i read multiple guides, the very first thing they mention in 99% of the guides is to have the last item you can unlock, meaning you should grind until you have it, so they are useless

[Aesyle]

Originally posted by ELED3L:

i read multiple guides, the very first thing they mention in 99% of the guides is to have the last item you can unlock, meaning you should grind until you have it, so they are useless

The last item you'll unlock in Daybreak is CLEO Core, that you can use in your community, to call in CLEO drops. It offers 0 help in Daybreak. So, what "guides" have you been reading?

The last weapon that you unlock, is CLEO Heavy Sniper. And while it is very powerful, it is only good against juggs. Also, it eats 2 CLEO ammo per shot, making it 4 shot weapon.
For Daybreak, the 2nd ranged unlock, Battle Rifle (9th unlock after compleing wave 3), is quite good. While in the middle of unlocks, you'll get Blast Rifle (23rd unlock after completing wave 3) and that is really good, at least to me.

[ELED3L]

Originally posted by Aesyle:

Originally posted by ELED3L:

i read multiple guides, the very first thing they mention in 99% of the guides is to have the last item you can unlock, meaning you should grind until you have it, so they are useless

The last item you'll unlock in Daybreak is CLEO Core, that you can use in your community, to call in CLEO drops. It offers 0 help in Daybreak. So, what "guides" have you been reading?

The last weapon that you unlock, is CLEO Heavy Sniper. And while it is very powerful, it is only good against juggs. Also, it eats 2 CLEO ammo per shot, making it 4 shot weapon.
For Daybreak, the 2nd ranged unlock, Battle Rifle (9th unlock after compleing wave 3), is quite good. While in the middle of unlocks, you'll get Blast Rifle (23rd unlock after completing wave 3) and that is really good, at least to me.

then its not the last, but thats not my point, they write a guide about a requirement that you dont have for a longer time, meanwhile you could easily beat the game with other tactics

hell, the best thing i read was on some kind of explanation pages comment section, the guy said some really good info, and i only realised he was right after i watched the mentioned video, this just shows the "value" of these steam guides and the hundreds of videos out there, its just upsets me

[Kidd Dick Johnson]

nowadays i just play daybreak solo coz bots have more brains than actual players , usually i will kick them when they join.

i've been betrayed so many times , never again

[kadsoukui]

Weird flex but okay..

[ELED3L]

Originally posted by kadsoukui:

Weird flex but okay..

You dont get the point, im not even a good player, what i wanted to say, how sh** the gamemode is.

[Boboscus]

Originally posted by ELED3L:

Originally posted by Boboscus:

Saying guides are useless just because you are too lazy to read and you'd see they mention meta and stuff that greatly improves your odds at winning and makes it easier. So just because you "found" the most tedious of ways to finish it it doesn't mean the others are wrong. lol Imagine being this edgy. And of course it's gonna be easier than random COOP games with players of varying skill where each one boosts the zombie strength and numbers, less variables that make the game harder so a higher chance of success. Being good would mean clutching a 4 man COOP Daybreak by yourself, then you can say guides are useless. lol

im not lazy, you are lazy, you didnt read what i said
i read multiple guides, the very first thing they mention in 99% of the guides is to have the last item you can unlock, meaning you should grind until you have it, so they are useless

Tells someone they don't read then proceeds to make ♥♥♥♥ up nobody ever wrote. I was wrong, you're not lazy, you're delusional. lol

[ELED3L]

Originally posted by Boboscus:

Originally posted by ELED3L:

im not lazy, you are lazy, you didnt read what i said
i read multiple guides, the very first thing they mention in 99% of the guides is to have the last item you can unlock, meaning you should grind until you have it, so they are useless

Tells someone they don't read then proceeds to make ♥♥♥♥ up nobody ever wrote. I was wrong, you're not lazy, you're delusional. lol

quote from unedited above:
"i saw a bunch of guide"
i wrote the wrod "saw" because that time recently watched multiple videos, but i checked multiple sites and read guides too

calling me delusional and lazy without reading anything shows how pathetic you are, im off drom this post because crearly people here are toxic, just like on csgo or other forums

[Aesyle]

Originally posted by ELED3L:

then its not the last, but thats not my point, they write a guide about a requirement that you dont have for a longer time, meanwhile you could easily beat the game with other tactics

Daybreak is made like so, where you need to unlock the CLEO weapons, for better chance of completing all 7 waves in solo.

1st, you'll grind some to unlock better weaponry, including deployables and once you have that, you have better chances of winning it solo. And those guides out there, are mainly for those, who, when even having the best gear, can't manage to figure out how to complete the Daybreak.

Btw, using mods (cheats), can make Daybreak into a breeze, with little, if any, effort from the player.
I once happened into one such MP match, where host had 15 NPC followers following him/her, where-ever they went. The other 3 players (including me), didn't have to do anything. Just sit around and watch host cheating the way through the Daybreak. I didn't stick around for long and instead quit shortly afterwards. I'm not a beggar and into free meals. Instead, i want to work for my meal.

Originally posted by ELED3L:

You dont get the point, im not even a good player, what i wanted to say, how sh** the gamemode is.

Daybreak used to be far worse than it currently is.

Several updates ago, before Daybreak revamp, max Prestige you could get, after winning, was ~900.
Also, once you unlocked all Wave 3 rewards, you had to complete Wave 5, to get rewards from Wave 5 and Wave 7 rewards were only rewarded for you, when you completed the Daybreak successfully.

That was tough. And many players complained about it how little rewarding it is. So, devs changed Daybreak and now:

You'll get ~1850 Prestige when you complete Daybreak, essentially doubling the Presitge gain.
Moreover, unlocks were made easier as well, where, at 1st, you can unlock only Wave 3 rewards. E.g if you compled Daybreak, you got 3 rewards, where all were Wave 3 rewards. Once you had all Wave 3 rewards, then you started to unlock Wave 5 rewards. E.g when you only managed to complete Wave 3 but lost, you still earned a reward (new unlock), but only one.
This made the unlocks more player friendly, where even those players, who couldn't get past Wave 4 or 5, to still be able to unlock all Daybreak items. Albeit one-by-one.

In a nutshell:
Old Daybreak - have to complete wave 7 to unlock wave 7 item (e.g Prefab: Officer Quaters).
Current Daybreak - have to complete only wave 3, to be eligible to unlock wave 7 item (e.g Prefab: Officer Quaters), given that all other pre-requsite items have been unlocked already (by completing required amount of reward waves).

Originally posted by ELED3L:

because crearly people here are toxic, just like on csgo or other forums

While you could say that only to the person who insulted you; you, for sure, can not tell this about everyone else. Also, what's with the thing of evaluating the WHOLE community based on how ONE person acts?

[Atrix_Tussand]

Originally posted by Officer Pedro Álvarez:

nowadays i just play daybreak solo coz bots have more brains than actual players , usually i will kick them when they join.

i've been betrayed so many times , never again

I can confirm this. I swear the God i have played about 15 matches by now only 2 times i got in a group that had half of the brain.

Eather that or they are noobs who decided to play Daybreak before learning the very basic tacitcal combat.

[Vovin]

Originally posted by ELED3L:

Originally posted by kadsoukui:

Weird flex but okay..

You dont get the point, im not even a good player, what i wanted to say, how sh** the gamemode is.

There are also significantly less enemies when doing it solo; however, I don't think it is increased by a factor of 4 just because there are 4 players.

There are ways to play it in coop that work very well, no cheating required. That's why I am often by myself way out in the field on the right side, because I can take out the right side waves solo while the other three focus on the left side at the walls.

I usually find competent coop teammates and we usually win. Yesterday I had a few network disconnections for the first time, which was weird.

One thing I wish it had was text chat, so we can work together toward achievements.