Crashes, errors and compatability issues thread.

[Sturmlocke]

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INTRO
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It seems that we are having some new ACM players around here lately. Some are having issues with the game. I created this thread so we can provide an overview of the most common issues and fixes, if available. I have had my fair share of issues with ACM as well, but there are fixes and workarounds for some of the issues. If you have helpful, well tested tipps - leave a comment below and I'll edit this post with the information. I'll start with some basic stuff and add more info asap.

Most of the below listed compatability problems arrived with the massive 8+ GB patches Gearbox released on PC, which improved the overall gameplay and graphics of the game for most of us.

Please note: These issues are not only related to ACM. It's a problem that most PC gamers have nowadays, because a lot of PC games are console ports and because the PC plattform itself is highly fragmented in terms of hard- and software combinations. This often results in compatability issues. It's one of the huge downsides to such an open plattform. If you want the most stress-free, optimized, reliable and the best plug and play experience - buy the 360 or PS3 version of the game.

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OFFICIAL SUPPORT
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In case none of the below helps you with your particular problem, please take a look at the following links for further assistance.

- Steam ACM Troubleshooting: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=8977-UPFH-6903

- Steam Windows Vista, 7 and 8 Troubleshooting: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=5688-IFHZ-2170

- Gearbox and Sega official support: http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=243810

- Gearbox Forums: http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/forumdisplay.php?f=181

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SOME TIPPS IN GENERAL (BEFORE GAMEPLAY)
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- Install the game with admin rights.

- Verify that your system is clean from Spy- and Malware.

- Verify that your system is up to date with the most recent WHQL drivers (BIOS, GPU, Sound, Mainboard and so on).

- Verify that system temps are OK.

- Close all programs running in the background via your taskmanager.

- Disable the realtime protection of your Antivirus and Firewall during gameplay.

- Disable Windows Aero during gameplay.

- Unplug anything connected to your USB ports that isn't needed during gameplay.

-> This could help if you can't find the process that is causing the problem. Clean boot: http://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-7/perform-a-clean-boot-in-windows-7/

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MOST COMMON DRIVERS & TOOLS
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- Nvidia GPU & CHIPSET drivers: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

- Nvidia Geforce Experience App: http://www.geforce.com/geforce-experience

- AMD GPU & CHIPSET drivers: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx

- AMD Gamning Evolved App: http://raptr.com/amd

- AMD System Monitor: http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/amd-system-monitor/Pages/overview.aspx

- Intel GPU, CHIPSET & WLAN drivers: http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect

- DirectX Runtime: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35

- Realtek HD AUDIO drivers: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsCheck.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#High Definition Audio Codecs

- VIA AUDIO drivers: x

- GPU-Z: http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

- CPU-Z: http://www.cpuid.com/

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SOME ACM RELATED TIPPS
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These steps should be performed before you try to fix or troubleshoot any issue related to ACM.

- Run the following installer as admin and reboot your computer afterwards to make sure DirectX and game related assets have been installed correctly: ...\Steamapps\common\Aliens Colonial Marines\Binaries\Redist\UE3Redist.exe

- Verify game data via Steam.

° Right-click on 'Aliens Colonial Marines' in your game library.
° Click on 'Properties'
° Go to the 'Local Files' tab
° Click on 'Verify Integrity of Game Cache'
° Wait for it to finish the check.

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ACM SPECIFIC TIPPS, WORKAROUNDS, FIXES

#1. THE GAME CRASHES RANDOMLY
#2. "THE GAME IS ALREADY RUNNING" ERROR
#3. FPS SPIKES, STUTTERING ISSUES
#4. BSOD ON AMD FX CPU
#5. MISSING TEXTURES AND BUGGY/GLITCHY GRAPHICS, CRASH AT START
#6. THE GAME LAUNCHES WITH A BLACK SCREEN
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#1. THE GAME CRASHES RANDOMLY


THE ISSUE:

'ACM.exe' stops working.

THE REASON:

Unknown, still testing. It happens on my much more powerful AMD desktop rig, but the low spec Nvidia laptop of my GF doesn't have this issue.

WORKAROUND:

- Try downloading and installing the most recent Beta drivers for your GPU.

- Launch the game with admin rights (see below, issue #2).

- Reset your 3D settings via the 'Nvidia Control Panel' or 'AMD Catalyst CP' to default values and...

- Don't set the graphic details any higher than 50-75% in the ACM graphics menu. If you do, even though fps-wise it might run fine, the game will crash at some point during gameplay. If you keep experiencing crashes, I recommend you leave everything @default or lower all of the graphic details step by step to the point where it becomes stable.

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#2. "THE GAME IS ALREADY RUNNING" ERROR FROM STEAM


THE ISSUE:

- When trying to start the game, you get a "This game is already running" error from Steam.

- After exiting the game, you get a "This game is already running error" from Steam under Windows Vista, 7, 8.

THE REASON:

STEAM/ACM is unable to verify and write game related data after exiting the game, because it doesn't have the necessary rights to do so.

THE FIX:

Exit the game, close Steam and add administrator rights to your ACM.exe and your Steam.exe. Launch and exit the game via Steam once, after you have applied the changes. This should fix the issue for good.

HOW TO APPLY ADMIN RIGHTS:

- FOR ACM.exe:

Navigate to "C:\Program Files\Steam\Steamapps\common\Aliens Colonial Marines\Binaries\..." or your default location and right click on the ACM.exe file, then click on Properties, and on the Compatibility tab. Check the Run this program as an administrator box, and click on OK.

- FOR Steam.exe:

Navigate to "C:\Program Files\Steam\..." or your default location and right click on the Steam.exe file, then click on Properties, and on the Compatibility tab. Check the Run this program as an administrator box, and click on OK.

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#3. FPS SPIKES, STUTTERING


THE ISSUE:

FPS-wise everything is fine, but you often get a great amount of stuttering when turning around with your mouse quickly. It gets even worse in Multiplayer. Anything above low graphic details and the game is unplayable in Multiplayer, because the stuttering won't stop.

THE REASON:

Unknown, still testing.

- Quote from the 13.9 AMD Catalyst release notes: "RESOLVED ISSUES: Significant game performance slowdowns when moving the mouse cursor in World of Warcraft using DirectX 9 rendering mode." <- The same goes for ACM. I guess it's somehow related to the issues some of us are having. In most cases it's a AMD 6000, 7000 series and Windows 8 issue. AMD GPU's have been causing a lot of issues in Windows 8. Just a few days ago AMD released their _first_ WHQL certified driver that passed all Microsoft Windows 8 and 8.1 tests. Before that: Random Bluescreens, framerate issues, stuttering and other problems were reported by users via the AMD forums. More info via: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalyst13-9WINReleaseNotes.aspx

- The game is part of the "Nvidia - the way it's meant to be played" program. You can see this when launching the game (logo) and checking Nvidia's website. But AMD also lists the game as one of their "AMD Gaming Evolved" titles, even though it's only mentioned on AMD's website, and not in the game itself. Some games are optimized for Nvidia hardware, some for AMD.

POSSIBLE WORKAROUND:

- For Windows 8: Try running the game in Windows XP, Vista, 7 compatability mode.

- On Nvidia: Download an install the Geforce Experience App and let it optimize the game for your hardware.* Download: http://www.geforce.com/geforce-experience

- On AMD: Download and install the Gaming Evolved App and let it optimize the game for your hardware.* Download: http://raptr.com/amd

* Info on the tools: GPU makers are tying to catch up with the ease of use of dedicated gaming consoles. Both tools support and detect ACM by default.

THE FIX:

Check system requirements. ACM only supports Windows XP, Vista and 7. There is no official support for Windows 8. If you are on Windows 8, downgrade to Windows 7 and apply all the updates, drivers etc. for your system, reinstall ACM and verify the situation. The stuttering issues should be gone now. I recommend you use the 64 bit version of Windows 7 though, because you could run into some crashing issues with the 32 bit version, if you set your graphic details too high (see #1 problem for more details).

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#4. BSOD ON AMD FX CPU


THE ISSUE:

- You are using a AMD FX CPU and you get random BSOD during gameplay.

THE REASON:

- According to the official system requirements, the game seems to be optimized for Intel CPU's. It requires and recommends Intel CPU.

- Steam is not compatible with older BIOS versions powering AMD FX CPU.

- Some games (Borderlands 2, for example) are not compatible with older BIOS versions powering AMD FX CPU.

THE FIX:

- Update the BIOS of your Mainboard to the newest version.

MORE INFORMATION ON THIS ISSUE:

- http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/STEAMGamesonAMDFXplatforms.aspx

- http://support.gearboxsoftware.com/entries/22254567-PC-Game-Crash-or-Blue-Screen-on-AMD-FX-Series-processors

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#5. MISSING TEXTURES AND BUGGY/GLITCHY GRAPHICS, CRASH AT START

THE ISSUE:

- The game crashes right after starting a new game (as soon as you get to see the ingame graphics).

- You are experiencing missing textures.

- You are experiencing buggy graphics (strange or faulty textures and other objects).

THE REASON:

- You are forcing Anti-Aliasing and/or other filters via your GPU control panel.

THE FIX:

- Disable Anti-Aliasing and other filters via your GPU control panel and use the officially supported FXAA Anti-Aliasing in the game instead.

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#6. THE GAME LAUNCHES WITH A BLACK SCREEN

THE ISSUE:

- The game launches into a black screen.

- The game launches into a black screen while sound is running.

- The game launches into a black screen and crashes shortly after.

THE REASON:

- Unknown. Probably because the game is trying to start in a resolution not supported by your monitor.

THE FIX:

° Start your Steam client and in the 'Library' of games right-click ACM and select 'Properties'. Select the 'General tab', then select 'Set Launch Options'.

° In the command line, type: -windowed

° This will force the game to run at a resolution supported by your system/monitor. Head to the graphics settings of the game and set the correct resolution @fullscreen for your monitor.

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HARD- AND SOFTWARE
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ALL OF THE ABOVE WAS TESTED ON...

DESKTOP (related to issues 1, 2, 3):

- AMD Phenom II X4 945
- AMD HD 7850 1GB GDDR5
- 8GB DDR3 RAM
- MSI 760GM-P23 (FX)
- 320GB 5400RPM HDD
- Windows 7 32bit, Windows 8 64bit
- All drivers up 2 date!

NOTEBOOK (no issues whatsoever):

- Intel Core i5 X
- Nvidia Geforce 525M 2GB DDR3
- 8GB DDR3 RAM
- X Mainboard
- 320GB 7200RPM HDD
- Windows 8 64bit
- All drivers up 2 date!

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RELATED
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- http://steamcommunity.com/app/49540/...4921841807251/
- http://steamcommunity.com/app/49540/...9647/?l=german
- http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/sh...d.php?t=285328
- http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/sh...d.php?t=310145
- http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/sh...d.php?t=288606
- http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/sh...d.php?t=281130
- http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/sh...d.php?t=142116
- http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=244468

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WORK IN PROGRESS.

[Heroic]

had the game is already running "problem" after exiting the game. now its gone, thx for that.

[{<>i<>} Hoplite]

Soniee님이 먼저 게시:

______________________________________________________________________

INTRO
______________________________________________________________________


It seems that we are having some new ACM players around here lately. Some are having issues with the game. I created this thread so we can provide an overview of the most common issues and fixes, if available. I have had my fair share of issues with ACM as well, but there are fixes and workarounds for some of the issues. If you have helpful, well tested tipps - leave a comment below and I'll edit this post with the information. I'll start with some basic stuff and add more info asap.

Most of the below listed compatability problems arrived with the massive 8+ GB patches Gearbox released on PC, which improved the overall gameplay and graphics of the game for most of us.

Please note: These issues are not only related to ACM. It's a problem that most PC gamers have nowadays, because a lot of PC games are console ports and because the PC plattform itself is highly fragmented in terms of hard- and software combinations, often resulting in compatability issues. It's one of the huge downsides to such an open plattform. If you want the most stress-free, optimized, reliable and the best plug and play experience - buy the 360 or PS3 version of the game.

______________________________________________________________________

OFFICIAL SUPPORT
______________________________________________________________________


In case none of the below helps you with your particular problem, please take a look at the following links for further assistance.

- Steam ACM Troubleshooting: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=8977-UPFH-6903

- Steam Windows Vista, 7 and 8 Troubleshooting: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=5688-IFHZ-2170

- Gearbox and Sega official support: http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=243810

- Gearbox Forums: http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/forumdisplay.php?f=181

______________________________________________________________________

SOME TIPPS IN GENERAL (BEFORE GAMEPLAY)
______________________________________________________________________


- Install the game with admin rights.

- Verify that your system is clean from Spy- and Malware.

- Verify that your system is up to date with the most recent WHQL drivers (BIOS, GPU, Sound, Mainboard and so on).

- Verify that system temps are OK.

- Close all programs running in the background via your taskmanager.

- Disable the realtime protection of your Antivirus and Firewall during gameplay.

- Disable Windows Aero during gameplay.

- Unplug anything connected to your USB ports that isn't needed during gameplay.

-> If the issue persists, try a clean boot: http://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-7/perform-a-clean-boot-in-windows-7/

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SOME ACM RELATED TIPPS
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- Run the following installer and reboot your computer afterwards to make sure DirectX and game related assets have been installed correctly: ...\Steamapps\common\Aliens Colonial Marines\Binaries\Redist\UE3Redist.exe

- Verify game data via Steam.

° Right-click on 'Aliens Colonial Marines' in your game library.
° Click on 'Properties'
° Go to the 'Local Files' tab
° Click on 'Verify Integrity of Game Cache'
° Wait for it to finish the check.

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ACM SPECIFIC TIPPS, WORKAROUNDS, FIXES

#1. THE GAME CRASHES RANDOMLY
#2. "THE GAME IS ALREADY RUNNING" ERROR
#3. FPS SPIKES, STUTTERING ISSUES
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#1. THE GAME CRASHES RANDOMLY


THE ISSUE:

'ACM.exe' stops working.

THE REASON:

Unknown, still testing. It happens on my much more powerful AMD desktop rig, but the low spec Nvidia laptop of my GF doesn't have this issue.

WORKAROUND:

- Try downloading and installing the most recent Beta drivers for your GPU.

- Launch the game with admin rights (see below, issue #2).

- Reset your 3D settings 'Nvidia Control Panel' or 'AMD Catalyst CP' to defaul values and...

- Don't set the graphic details any higher than 50-75% in the ACM graphics menu. If you do, even though fps-wise it might run fine, the game will crash at some point during gameplay. If you keep experiencing crashes, better leave everything @default or lower all of the graphic details step by step to the point it becomes stable.

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#2. "THE GAME IS ALREADY RUNNING" ERROR FROM STEAM


THE ISSUE:

- When trying to start the game, you get a "This game is already running" error from Steam.

- After exiting the game, you get a "This game is already running error" from Steam under Windows Vista, 7, 8.

THE REASON:

STEAM/ACM is unable to verify and write data after exiting the game, because it doesn't have the necessary rights to do so.

THE FIX:

Exit the game, close Steam and add administrator rights to your ACM.exe and your Steam.exe. Launch and exit the game via Steam once, after you have applied the changes. This should fix the issue for good.

HOW TO APPLY ADMIN RIGHTS:

- FOR ACM.exe:

Navigate to "C:\Program Files\Steam\Steamapps\common\Aliens Colonial Marines\Binaries\..." or your default location and right click on the ACM.exe file, then click on Properties, and on the Compatibility tab. Check the Run this program as an administrator box, and click on OK.

- FOR Steam.exe:

Navigate to "C:\Program Files\Steam\..." or your default location and right click on the Steam.exe file, then click on Properties, and on the Compatibility tab. Check the Run this program as an administrator box, and click on OK.

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#3. FPS SPIKES, STUTTERING


THE ISSUE:

FPS-wise everything is fine, but you often get a great amount of stuttering when turning around with your mouse quickly. It gets even worse in Multiplayer. Anything above low graphics details and the game is unplayable in Multiplayer, because the stuttering won't stop.

THE REASON:

Unknown, still testing.

- Quote from the 13.9 AMD Catalyst release notes: "RESOLVED ISSUES: Significant game performance slowdowns when moving the mouse cursor in World of Warcraft using DirectX 9 rendering mode." <- The same goes for ACM. I guess it's somehow related to the issues some of us are having. In most cases it's a AMD 6000, 7000 series and Windows 8 issue. AMD GPU's have been causing a lot of issues in Windows 8. Just a few days ago AMD released their _first_ WHQL certified driver that passed all Microsoft Windows 8 and 8.1 tests. Before that: Random Bluescreens, framerate issues, stuttering and other problems were reported by users via the AMD forums. More info via: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalyst13-9WINReleaseNotes.aspx

- The game is part of the "Nvidia - the way it's meant to be played" program. You can see this when launching the game (logo) and checking Nvidia's website. But AMD also lists the game as one of their "AMD Gaming Evolved" titles, even though it's only mentioned on AMD's website, and not in the game itself. Some games are optimized for Nvidia hardware, some for AMD.

POSSIBLE WORKAROUND:

- For Windows 8: Try running the game in Windows XP, Vista, 7 compatability mode.

- On Nvidia: Download an install the Geforce Experience App and let it optimize the game for your hardware.* Download: http://www.geforce.com/geforce-experience

- On AMD: Download and install the Gaming Evolved App and let it optimize the game for your hardware.* Download: http://raptr.com/amd

* Info on the tools: GPU makers are tying to catch up with the ease of use of dedicated gaming consoles. Both tools support and detect ACM by default.

THE FIX:

Check system requirements. ACM only supports Windows XP, Vista and 7. There is no official support for Windows 8. If you are on Windows 8, downgrade to Windows 7 and apply all the updates, drivers etc. for your system, reinstall ACM and verify the situation. The stuttering issues should be gone now.

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HARD- AND SOFTWARE
______________________________________________________________________


ALL OF THE ABOVE WAS TESTED ON...

DESKTOP (related to issues 1, 2, 3):

- AMD Phenom II X4 945
- AMD HD 7850 1GB GDDR5
- 8GB DDR3 RAM
- MSI 760GM-P23 (FX)
- 320GB 5400RPM HDD
- Windows 7 32bit, Windows 8 64bit
- All drivers up 2 date!

NOTEBOOK (no issues whatsoever):

- Intel Core i5 X
- Nvidia Geforce 525M 2GB DDR3
- 8GB DDR3 RAM
- X Mainboard
- 320GB 7200RPM HDD
- Windows 8 64bit
- All drivers up 2 date!

______________________________________________________________________

RELATED
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- http://steamcommunity.com/app/49540/...4921841807251/
- http://steamcommunity.com/app/49540/...9647/?l=german
- http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/sh...d.php?t=285328
- http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/sh...d.php?t=310145
- http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/sh...d.php?t=288606
- http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/sh...d.php?t=281130
- http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/sh...d.php?t=142116

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WORK IN PROGRESS.

Cool help thread nice one dude 10 out of 10 :)

[RIOT|Stalkermaster]

Great Job dude, This thread needs to be stickied

[Roki]

wow

[Sturmlocke]

Thx guys. I just updated it a bit. Will be adding some more infos tonight.

[{<>i<>} Hoplite]

Soniee님이 먼저 게시:

Thx guys. I just updated it a bit. Will be adding some more infos tonight.

COOL ,,,,:)

[NielDiamond007]

Happy to see some insight on this situation. For us Co-Op textures were wiped out. They worked from Febaury then failed recently. Single campain was fine on both sides of the net. That's why it was a suprise. Probably not on the latest Nvidia driver here... As consumers we expect a certain amount of stability regaurding PC aplications. If it isn't sutable for PC then reconcider the marketing strategy or release the games. I was playing Delta Force online in the 90's and have Skyrim moded. This is a weekend hobby. Oblivion was a bad game for onging driver issues and glitching. Let's not go back there.. Looking forward to giviing ACM Coop a run this weekend . Thanks

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

maybe your computers hate the game too, =P

[NielDiamond007]

Well I hope not Sgt but that is alway's a posibillity. I run an eVGA custom built i7 X58 sli GTX570(2) 12g BigFoot Win7 64 Ult on hydro. Not uncommon these day's but I hear this game is angled towards console. They might say I'm overreaching but but my Bro's "stock" Dell XPS420 get's the same results 40 miles away. We will follow the detailed guidelines in the previous threads and critique it this weekend. Considering my gaming machine isn't used for surfing, I have a real concern for the Steam client opperation. Not to mention the integrity of PC release of this game for Co-Op. We still have LAN fun with the old AVP2 PvP. Pouncing 100yds with the Alien on the Luceifer map, Oh Yeah! 10 ping throttled Oh Yeah! I'd like to see everyone do thier homework, including myself, to get thier own systems up to spec and support these guy's in the effort to get this game stable.

[NielDiamond007]

RC***Sgt.D_Nukem***님이 먼저 게시:

maybe your computers hate the game too, =P

Your'e right, I have a few?

[Sturmlocke]

NielDiamond007님이 먼저 게시:

... Not uncommon these day's but I hear this game is angled towards console...

True...

...a lot of PC games are console ports nowadays, and the reason for that is very understandable, but almost all big AAA PC titles have their fair share amount of bugs and other issues. ACM is no exception, but it did get flamed a lot for it though. The issues PC gamers are having today is something that has always been, and will always continue to be with PC gaming. It's an open, flexible and highly customizable plattform - that is it's strengh and weakness at the same time. As a PC gamer, you have to be ready to deal with certain compatability issues and you should be prepared to troubleshoot things for hours, days or even weeks to get optimal results. If you're not up to it, then you'll have to look for alternatives (consoles, for the most part a plug and play experience).

Also, I think it's extremly important to understand the situation and provide helpful feedback to the devs of the PC game. A lot of gamers whine and put their "fail if it's not perfect on day one" stamp all over the place. This has to change, or else companies will continue to shift their focus towards consoles.

[Sturmlocke]

Btw guys, I'm in vacations the entire week, so adding info will be a bit slow. I'll try to collect more info on known bugs this weekend.

[NielDiamond007]

Thanks for the thread response/info. I understand the console/pc situation is not an easy task. As an consultant for the local computer repair place, I see alot of pc's running games with all kinds of background stuff running. That's only after getting around BSOD trouble etc... It won't suprise me for a shift towards console sooner than later. Probably better for the masses. Although, console hackers are knocking at door to screw that up too with system unstability for the adventurous. On the lighter side this experience gave me insperation to reconfigure my system to a new level. I'm going to get more involved with this because I'd like to see more CoOp over the net. It eliminates unnecessary chat. I deleted most of my ramble but Thanks again.

[Sturmlocke]

NielDiamond007님이 먼저 게시:

Thanks for the thread response/info. I understand the console/pc situation is not an easy task. As an consultant for the local computer repair place, I see alot of pc's running games with all kinds of background stuff running. That's only after getting around BSOD trouble etc... It won't suprise me for a shift towards console sooner than later. Probably better for the masses. Although, console hackers are knocking at door to screw that up too with system unstability for the adventurous. On the lighter side this experience gave me insperation to reconfigure my system to a new level. I'm going to get more involved with this because I'd like to see more CoOp over the net. It eliminates unnecessary chat. I deleted most of my ramble but Thanks again.

NielDiamond007님이 먼저 게시:

Thanks for the thread response/info. I understand the console/pc situation is not an easy task. As an consultant for the local computer repair place, I see alot of pc's running games with all kinds of background stuff running. That's only after getting around BSOD trouble etc... It won't suprise me for a shift towards console sooner than later. Probably better for the masses. Although, console hackers are knocking at door to screw that up too with system unstability for the adventurous. On the lighter side this experience gave me insperation to reconfigure my system to a new level. I'm going to get more involved with this because I'd like to see more CoOp over the net. It eliminates unnecessary chat. I deleted most of my ramble but Thanks again.

Exactly.

Also, I found some information about the stuttering Windows 8 users have been having (issue #3) with ACM. It seems my suspicion and test results have been verified. In fact, not only ACM is having stuttering issues with Windows 8, but a bunch of other games as well. As soon as you move around your mouse - fps spikes and stutter. Call of Duty, Deus Ex, Borderlands 2 and a few other games seem to be having the same issue. I'll update the list above with this information first thing in the morning.

Meanwhile, you can find all the details here: http://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/1oor43/windows_81_warning_for_gamers_issues_with/

Unfortunately, none of the workarounds mentioned in the link work. Yeah, I tried them even before the article was wrItten. I guess this only goes to show how serious one should take system requirements on PC. After all, Windows 8 isn't officially supported by many games - including ACM. Everything on your system has the potential to cause issues. To make things worse, I installed Win 8.1 a few days ago, only to find out that the newest 13.9 Catalyst drivers had issues during installation. It broke the drivers on my system, even though AMD said they are compatible with Win 8.1, causing system instability. Shortly before that, I spent two days trying to find out why Resident Evil Operation Recoon City wouldn't launch on my machine. Turns out a Games for Windows Live (client) bug was causing the hickup. Why I need Windows Live, even though it's dead and even though I downloaded it via Steam, is beyond me.

In any case, it's no wonder console gaming is so healthy. The above is one of the many reasons why ppl are shifting towards console gaming.

[commander]

NielDiamond007님이 먼저 게시:

Well I hope not Sgt but that is alway's a posibillity. I run an eVGA custom built i7 X58 sli GTX570(2) 12g BigFoot Win7 64 Ult on hydro. Not uncommon these day's but I hear this game is angled towards console. They might say I'm overreaching but but my Bro's "stock" Dell XPS420 get's the same results 40 miles away. We will follow the detailed guidelines in the previous threads and critique it this weekend. Considering my gaming machine isn't used for surfing, I have a real concern for the Steam client opperation. Not to mention the integrity of PC release of this game for Co-Op. We still have LAN fun with the old AVP2 PvP. Pouncing 100yds with the Alien on the Luceifer map, Oh Yeah! 10 ping throttled Oh Yeah! I'd like to see everyone do thier homework, including myself, to get thier own systems up to spec and support these guy's in the effort to get this game stable.

Hi Niel, did you ever play on the avp 2 demo back in 2007? If so you were probably on my server, the one hosted all the time for the players while I went to work before the recession hit in 2008, it hosted 76 or 78 players, can't remember, but sometimes had from 11 to 40 players at once, some without names. Yeah that was my server, sadly alot of hackers flying around using grenades as an alien and making an earthquake of the screen, when I would see everyone's ping jump thousands, I booted him, knew he was trying to come back in, and he got in a few other times and crashed my server, I knew when I came home from work sometimes, the error of my server wasn't a rare bug, and I was right. Also more hackers later the next year came around when I tried to host the game again, I told him if he didn't stop, I would close the server down for good, all the other players were reading it too, as I was typing to him from the desktop server console for the game demo, there was no ban feature on the demo, just kick, I didn't know his ip and so I couldn't firewall it.

But I enjoyed hosting that back in 2007, and I hope everyone that was on it enjoyed it as well, most players had to turn to my server, I am sorry it had to come down to no more hosting, that and after the recession, things just got worse for even myself.

Also you can find my guide to help fixing game issues here, which I created earlier this year under the transformers: war for cybertron forum guides, this should help fix issues as well.
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=139997195

Also, great thread you have here, very helpful stuff. =)