Aliens: Colonial Marines

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Larry2233 Sep 5, 2014 @ 3:12pm
Aliens:CM or Aliens vs Predator?
I have seen aliens colonial marines was so criticized by all but now bugs have been fixed in patches and I've heard that AVP has bad controls even today so I wonder what to buy first? let me know what should I buy. I'm using a translator if something is wrong and you know why.
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mahon007 Sep 5, 2014 @ 3:16pm 
I own and enjoy both, they are both very cheap at this point, so ummm......
El Diplomático Sep 5, 2014 @ 3:23pm 
Yo tengo ambos juegos, si eres fan de alien los dos te entretendran, pero en terminos de calidad esta mejor acabado el AvP, hay tres campañas (alien, predator y marine) tiene tambien servidores dedicados, y los controles solo son complicados cuando controlas al alien pero todo se basa en la practica. El colonial marines es cierto que ha mejorado desde su salida y han solucionado la mayoria de errores, el modo campaña es entretenido y el multijugador es bueno pero aveces cuesta encontrar partida asi que es dificil decantarse por uno de los . En tu caso conseguiria primero el Avp que tiene mejor nota en general, y cuando el Colonial marines vuelva a estar de oferta ( que lo estara) te haces con él.
Espero que te sirva :)
Thorp Sep 5, 2014 @ 9:47pm 
AvP2010 singleplayer was more engrossing than ACM...a lot more. The upside to ACM for the campaign though is you can customize your weapons and you have a larger arsenal to play around with both literally and figuratively. AvP2010 has suspense in it's gameplay while ACM is sparce especially on a second playthrough.

Multiplayer imo, is better in ACM because there are more options such as loadouts and xeno species varients and the maps are sci fi orientated. The downside to multiplayer on both ACM and AvP2010 is their playerbase is very very small and lag plagues them both. On the plus side ACM has a more accurate netcode but AvP2010 suffers from ghosting and easily exploitable netcode. If you can somehow get a group of friends to play without lag and agreeing to not use exploits then both games are great.

Controls for either game is subjective. I do very much prefer the xeno controls of AvP2010 however the marine controls in ACM feel more fluid. (I'm not even going to talk about Predator controls...)

All in all it doesn't matter which one you get first...if you have nobody to coop with and you're looking for only singleplayer I recommend AvP2010. On the other hand if you want coop campaign you can only get coop in ACM.

Halloween is coming soon; I'm sure both games will be on sale for cheap roughly around Oct 15th.
Berserk Belta Sep 6, 2014 @ 4:48am 
Get both. AvP 2010 is weird... looks great on paper, lavish attention to detail, single player can be fun, but for me it's lacking a certain something that makes it weak in playability.

The MP in A:CM is lots more fun for me. AvP's MP is beautiful, but people's energy seems about evenly divided between exploiting/suffering outrageous balance problems, and moaning about them, and I've had enough of MP experiences like that.

Mr. Tex Sep 6, 2014 @ 7:34am 
Get both.

In AvP 2010 you can play as an Alien or a Predator during a whole campaign, that should be reason enough in my opinion.

To me action games should focus on the 'action' gameplay and not the storyline, AvP has plenty of cool action. It also has combat variety since you can experience three very different styles of combat.

Unless its a Call of Duty or Battlefield game all shooters I've played have had control issues, its no big deal unless you are as picky as TotalBiscuit. In that case you might as well stick to the 4-5 shooters that have the same high standards.

ACM is a fun action game and the DLC was also very good.
It is a very tough game, often very challenging and difficult, but that is what makes it awesome compared to other shooters around. Whether it is a good Alien game is a seperate question entirely, but as an action game it is very good.

If you play FPS for the action gameplay they are both worth getting.
Last edited by Mr. Tex; Sep 6, 2014 @ 7:41am
I own both myself, but multi-player wise, "Aliens: Colonial Marines" wins here, due to it having a better netcode (as already mentioned above). but "AvP 2010" has the better single-player
Spooky799kil Sep 6, 2014 @ 4:06pm 
Just get AVP2. Because everyone knows its better than these two games lol. But I have enjoyed both games none the less.
Last edited by Spooky799kil; Sep 6, 2014 @ 4:07pm
Purity+Control< Sep 6, 2014 @ 5:59pm 
Originally posted by Spooky799kil:
Just get AVP2. Because everyone knows its better than these two games lol. But I have enjoyed both games none the less.

Oh man, I still ♥♥♥♥ myself when I have to go and "rescue" Hall down there in xeno central. Incredible. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. game.
Darth Cannabis Sep 6, 2014 @ 6:23pm 
AVP games always have thier good parts, but what I;m truely waiting for is pure Predator game.

Either squad based, being hunted by a predator basis (need extremely stong predator AI on this one. squad should be scared ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all game), or a Predator travel to different planets and regions of conflict in hunts agains many many varieties of prey (this idea comes down to giving us more to hunt than normal xenos and humans, thou they would be included in several hunts.)
Last edited by Darth Cannabis; Sep 6, 2014 @ 6:25pm
commander Sep 7, 2014 @ 4:17am 
Originally posted by Smurfingetorix:
Get both. AvP 2010 is weird... looks great on paper, lavish attention to detail, single player can be fun, but for me it's lacking a certain something that makes it weak in playability.

The MP in A:CM is lots more fun for me. AvP's MP is beautiful, but people's energy seems about evenly divided between exploiting/suffering outrageous balance problems, and moaning about them, and I've had enough of MP experiences like that.

We must remember to blame the game devs for the balance issues in that situation, not the gamers. After all.. the game doesn't balance itself. But I totally understand the frustration and get tired of it as well, but we have to put up with it since most games are this way today, and it's hardly something that anyone can put up with for very long.
Another reason not to pre-order games before they come out.

Although the older AvP games were far better than anything today in gameplay, they are old and so old graphics is to be expected. Although even AvP 2 had some balance issues, but you don't really balance the alien when it comes down to it, look at the aliens in AvP 1 from 1999, much faster and enjoyable to play against in the map hive or other maps while camping with marines, and very enjoyable to be the alien as well with the fast speeds, even to be the predator, all 3 types were very fun to be in that game, when avp 2 came around, the slow running of the aliens, and then being forced to push a button just to pounce, took away some freedom of movement on the aliens part, from how I fealt. And the slow movement of the marines and predators as well, all of it just wasn't compared to avp 1. Although I still enjoyed avp 2, I just can't help but to not feel that relief of missing the action from the first AvP 1 from 1999 game.

I agree though, get both games A:CM and AvP2010, you can't have one without the other. =)
Last edited by commander; Sep 7, 2014 @ 4:20am
commander Sep 7, 2014 @ 4:27am 
Originally posted by Darth Cannabis:
AVP games always have thier good parts, but what I;m truely waiting for is pure Predator game.

Either squad based, being hunted by a predator basis (need extremely stong predator AI on this one. squad should be scared ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all game), or a Predator travel to different planets and regions of conflict in hunts agains many many varieties of prey (this idea comes down to giving us more to hunt than normal xenos and humans, thou they would be included in several hunts.)

That would be awesome.

Although don't forget about the Nintendo DS predator game. I think there were several aliens games on the NDS, about 3 of them. Just wanted to let you know about that. Don't forget that there are emulators to test it also on the pc, but be sure to have the full game.

Go here and look down the page at some video links I have, some such as for the super nintendo and the avp arcade. Thought this might be of some interest, I'm sure you already know about them. But still helpful. http://steamcommunity.com/app/49540/discussions/0/34095684673460439/#p3

I totally agree though, that would be awesome, would enjoy predators hunting marines, and aliens, and other types of aliens they hunt as well in the universe.
But in a higher level of development with good story and multiplayer team based in co - op, against other alien types we've known in the past, not just from the games or movies, the toys as well, such as the jungle aliens, pather alien, gorilla alien, and other types, that would be so awesome, and to hunt in the cities as well at other times, or on ships in the same way while in space, have it like Alien: Isolation with the way that the alien acts in the game, place that ai code in a predator hunt multiplayer experience, along with add tons of those aliens and other alien types, even marines, and you would have an awesome predator game.

I would hope they would do the same in an AvP and other Aliens games to come, the team deathmatch, and co - op experiences, and for other game types as well within the same games. =)
Last edited by commander; Sep 7, 2014 @ 4:30am
Berserk Belta Sep 7, 2014 @ 5:18am 
Originally posted by commander:
Originally posted by Smurfingetorix:
Get both. AvP 2010 is weird... looks great on paper, lavish attention to detail, single player can be fun, but for me it's lacking a certain something that makes it weak in playability.

The MP in A:CM is lots more fun for me. AvP's MP is beautiful, but people's energy seems about evenly divided between exploiting/suffering outrageous balance problems, and moaning about them, and I've had enough of MP experiences like that.

We must remember to blame the game devs for the balance issues in that situation, not the gamers. After all.. the game doesn't balance itself. But I totally understand the frustration and get tired of it as well, but we have to put up with it since most games are this way today, and it's hardly something that anyone can put up with for very long.
Another reason not to pre-order games before they come out.

Although the older AvP games were far better than anything today in gameplay, they are old and so old graphics is to be expected. Although even AvP 2 had some balance issues, but you don't really balance the alien when it comes down to it, look at the aliens in AvP 1 from 1999, much faster and enjoyable to play against in the map hive or other maps while camping with marines, and very enjoyable to be the alien as well with the fast speeds, even to be the predator, all 3 types were very fun to be in that game, when avp 2 came around, the slow running of the aliens, and then being forced to push a button just to pounce, took away some freedom of movement on the aliens part, from how I fealt. And the slow movement of the marines and predators as well, all of it just wasn't compared to avp 1. Although I still enjoyed avp 2, I just can't help but to not feel that relief of missing the action from the first AvP 1 from 1999 game.

I agree though, get both games A:CM and AvP2010, you can't have one without the other. =)

re point about the older games, it is well worth picking up what is now called avp 2000 on Steam and playing it through - there is an improved texture pack which makes a small difference, and it is fun and atmospheric in spite of its outdated graphics.

On the balance issues, yes definitely the devs are responsible for imbalance existing, although I tend to shy away from such games whoever is to blame - I remember a number of MP games going to hell, and while I could have dealt with the issues in the software, players exploiting and moaning added at least as much unpleasantness again. Sometimes you have to see a game that has unbalanced MP, say to yourself "nah I've served my time in unbalanced MP" and treat yourself right by moving on, heh
xenon Sep 7, 2014 @ 5:29am 
ACM is better in multiplayer.

For Xenos, you got three classes with different abilities. Most of them are cheap and broken, so that literally everyone can have a chance in having a 10/0 KDR in a match. Some are undervalued and are actually really good if you PRACTICE with it.

Same goes for the marines, you have either a choice of arming yourself with 4 underbarrel grenades and a (invisible) claymore, just to be a major ♥♥♥♥, or have something more balanced and fun as play as instead. Oh, and the Marines actually look like marines from Aliens, and not some grunts from Doom like they do in AVP.

The lag is an issue as well, but it really depends on the host and your own connection. Sometimes I get better hitreg with 120+ ping than I do with 60.

AVP is not bad, but once you get into a mixed species match, you'll get a call of duty (marine vs marine) borefest. Otherwise, it's E-mashing, mine-spamming, auto-aiming Predator fest, with an occassional xeno here and there.

Both games have awful campaign modes.
Last edited by xenon; Sep 7, 2014 @ 5:34am
commander Sep 7, 2014 @ 5:34am 
Originally posted by Smurfingetorix:
Originally posted by commander:

We must remember to blame the game devs for the balance issues in that situation, not the gamers. After all.. the game doesn't balance itself. But I totally understand the frustration and get tired of it as well, but we have to put up with it since most games are this way today, and it's hardly something that anyone can put up with for very long.
Another reason not to pre-order games before they come out.

Although the older AvP games were far better than anything today in gameplay, they are old and so old graphics is to be expected. Although even AvP 2 had some balance issues, but you don't really balance the alien when it comes down to it, look at the aliens in AvP 1 from 1999, much faster and enjoyable to play against in the map hive or other maps while camping with marines, and very enjoyable to be the alien as well with the fast speeds, even to be the predator, all 3 types were very fun to be in that game, when avp 2 came around, the slow running of the aliens, and then being forced to push a button just to pounce, took away some freedom of movement on the aliens part, from how I fealt. And the slow movement of the marines and predators as well, all of it just wasn't compared to avp 1. Although I still enjoyed avp 2, I just can't help but to not feel that relief of missing the action from the first AvP 1 from 1999 game.

I agree though, get both games A:CM and AvP2010, you can't have one without the other. =)

re point about the older games, it is well worth picking up what is now called avp 2000 on Steam and playing it through - there is an improved texture pack which makes a small difference, and it is fun and atmospheric in spite of its outdated graphics.

On the balance issues, yes definitely the devs are responsible for imbalance existing, although I tend to shy away from such games whoever is to blame - I remember a number of MP games going to hell, and while I could have dealt with the issues in the software, players exploiting and moaning added at least as much unpleasantness again. Sometimes you have to see a game that has unbalanced MP, say to yourself "nah I've served my time in unbalanced MP" and treat yourself right by moving on, heh

Yeah I know about the avp 2000 classic, they should have called it avp 1999 classic, since after all, I used to play it alot in 1999 when it came out, and alot happend in that time on mplayer, which was a service much like gamespy, before gamespy took it over, I miss mplayer, that was one of the best multiplayer chat and gaming services, a very interesting place to be at and launch your games. Those were good days.

Also they had a mod for the old avp 1999 that was supposedly better on the graphics. Not sure if it would be compatible with avp 2000 classic, but I do believe they made avp 2000 classic compatible with newer machines.

As far as moving on, there isn't much to move on to, you have to deal with today's games was my point, since most games as I mentioned, are the same. That and if you are dealing with one category like the aliens series that you like, you just have to deal with what you got, not that you don't have other games that have multiplayer, it's just... well that's hard to explain.
But when you want to play an aliens multiplayer, you're left with only the options you have from today's alien games, until something better comes out, or if it does. And since there is such a short supply on the aliens games of today, very little options besides going to play other games as you said. And I've moved on a long time ago, but I still come back to it, being a big fan of the aliens series, if you know what I mean, just to want to play something "aliens", in that category.

I'm still thinking about using the source code from AvP 1999, I've had it stored away somewhere for a long time, and I thought about working on it with someone I knew online a long time ago from back then, but never got around to doing so, from having other things going on, and alot going on since then.

Also I'm currently working on an aliens side scroller multiplayer, might release the source code for it but not for a while. Just started working on it last week and within hours, I got multiplayer to see the alien on both screens running around using the alien animation sprites, and could shoot it, I setup the death animations after it runs around and you shoot it.
The Project is using alien 3 sprites from the sega genesis, and I might use some from the super nintendo version of alien 3, as well as maybe the old avp arcade version of the aliens that the humans worked on, and also predators from avp arcade, but as usually.. fan made non - profit, and all rights and credits go to Sega and those that I forgot, as I take no credit for the art work or sounds.
Last edited by commander; Sep 7, 2014 @ 6:04am
Originally posted by Sam:
Originally posted by Spooky799kil:
Just get AVP2. Because everyone knows its better than these two games lol. But I have enjoyed both games none the less.

Oh man, I still ♥♥♥♥ myself when I have to go and "rescue" Hall down there in xeno central. Incredible. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. game.


the scariest part in the entire game
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