Are Beastmasters viable without a lot of monster units?

[Mashuu]

So I am trying to put otgether a nice little effective team, and I am wondering how effective Beastmasters are in the game. I do not use many monster units (yet?).

[Maldon]

They're not the best but they're usable.

[iHaku]

monsters are generally pretty garbage. during the story (which is the early game) they can be decent, but the lack of weapon mastery just kills them mit/lategame for any damage dealing.

endgame they can be decent as magichange depending on the setup, and with exploits... well, yeah. dont really need to talk about that.

anyway, beastmasters arent good at all if you want to make an "effective" team, by which i think you mean strong? their passive only works together with monsters (gives monsters that are next to him a % stat boost) and their apptitudes+skillgains are pretty bad. they only shine of you whould actually go monsterteam as a buff char.

[Mashuu]

Seems they also buff the Bonus gauge though? Think I might use them a bit.

[KarmaTheAlligator]

Originally posted by Mashuu:

Seems they also buff the Bonus gauge though? Think I might use them a bit.

Yes, they increase the bonus gauge faster than others, but that's only useful if you need something from it, which is rare late game. Before that, go for it if you want.

[paugus]

No, they're objectively pretty bad.

[rudew]

They make monsters "Viable" technically for the late game, still wont be able to easily (Or quite possibly at all) kill even baal unless you have leveled quite a bit, let alone anything after him without very strategic planning, If you do choose to go beast master I suggest going for a spear beastmaster, since they synergise well with dragons due to the dragons main special moves hitting from right behind a spear beastmaster, plus dragons become spears during a magichange, So basically they arent good, but if you really want that bonus bonus gauge then go for a spear user.

[Beijzum]

I made 9 Beastmasters with Toy Bows just so I could easily max out the bonus gauge in Adell's 3-3 Dark world.

[Mrrshan68]

Well you can basically brute force any character to be godly in disgaea with enough time.
Might also help if you tell us what stage of the game you are aiming for?
super postgame stuff like baal and pringer x? just finishing the story?

I just like the way beastmasters/nekomatas look so i run 2x kittys and a beastmaster and it works rather well. lots of very buffed counters makes for some nice passive aoe in crowded maps.

However yeah just as a vanilla unit beastmasters are bad if you dont use them with monsters. they just dont have amazing stats or weapon skills.

[doomsday_1986]

9 of them are really fun to push the gauge, i started to equip them, its like a Bow army xD.
im not far yet all around lv 20 yet and hihgest is dark eclaire with 50 (shes awesome), i threw monsters together and attacked them with all chars got 10 combo and it gave me 5 full gauges, first 9 weak Beast tamer and then eclair finish, make sure you first give them all orders and then start the fight so that the combo counts.

[Hierophant Green]

A Beastmaster near Red Tink will both activate their abilities giving him quite a boost, as will Rozalin. Give the three of them a bit of lovers and Tink's stats will get outrageous.

[doomsday_1986]

Originally posted by ZoroTheGallade #TeamHudduh:

A Beastmaster near Red Tink will both activate their abilities giving him quite a boost, as will Rozalin. Give the three of them a bit of lovers and Tink's stats will get outrageous.

Sourround gig with them + INSANE stack of groom and domination, you can stack domination extrem high, from 4k atk to 13k atk was it by me so far.

killed lv 533 with 5 times groom and got 9k Mana ( gig lv 102 no reinc.) . one hit stack.
also awesome if you use 9 beast tamers alla round gig who shoot the enemy and the last attack from gig , boost the gauge mostly to 5+ when gig killedit in 10 combo. Even more awesome if you can use alot of +1 attack fields for your bows.

[Speech-hime]

Beast masters are great if you're playing a fresh Axel mode playthrough. Pink and Actress kill everything.

They're probably not really useful for post game. For a story playthrough they're great if you're looking to spice up your playthrough with lots of monster units.

[kyasarintsu]

They're really bland aptitude-wise and don't do anything that other classes can't do much better.
She's best at swords, spears, and axes when her ATK aptitude isn't very good, her SPD isn't very good, and her HIT isn't very good either (in a game where axes have negative HIT).
A 20% stat boost on monsters to pull out whenever you want is fun, but the Beastmaster herself wasn't particularly good until later (she's pretty good in Disgaea D2 in a "can do just about everything decently enough" kind of way and had the stupidly good Dark Blood but that was her last game).

What exactly makes monsters so weak in this game? I thought they had that weapon mastery thing where their stat gains are increased based on levels?

[Raikuri Hirei]

Originally posted by gecko on my tail:

What exactly makes monsters so weak in this game? I thought they had that weapon mastery thing where their stat gains are increased based on levels?

It's the fact that they aren't as versatile and useful in combat as human-type characters. If they had at least access to staves, swords or any type of human-only weapons, they could be somewhat useful.

The lack of capability to use human-only weapons then lead them to being unable to use powerful skills and spells available only to humans, of which we make use of most of the time to get rid of multiple enemies at once, while monsters aren't exactly able to do that.

By end-game, their supposed stat gains increased based on level are basically useless, cause you'll be having perfected items on a Lv.1 Character that could outright beat a basic Lv. 9999 monster.

[iHaku]

>What exactly makes monsters so weak in this game? I thought they had that weapon mastery thing where their stat gains are increased based on levels?

as magichange without exploiting, they are sub par to weapons. if you have a perfect weapon you will lose stats compared to a perfect monster weapon due to the loss of weapon mastery gain.
monsters themself also dont have weapon mastery which, in lategame, is really important for the 14.xx damage multiplyer.

literally the only reason to ever use monsters to abuse glitches or to gain access to magichange 2 skills (zetta beeeam)