Are the radar detectors really supposed to get WORSE each tier?

[Wisq]

So the first radar detector you get is Metox. With a radio operator and one crewman helping him, you get a range bubble of 13 nautical miles radius around the ship.

Next is Borkum, type 2. It sacrifices range in order not "not emit anything" and give away location (even though Metox didn't emit anything useful, the Germans just refused to believe that Enigma had been cracked). Okay, sure, I get it, there's tradeoffs. 8 nautical miles.

Next is Naxos, type 3. Range: 2 nautical miles?! My watch crew can literally see further than Naxos can detect. Is there just a typo somewhere? Did someone forget to add a 0?

[El Rushbo]

Originally posted by Wisq:

(even though Metox didn't emit anything useful, the Germans just refused to believe that Enigma had been cracked).

It wasn't that the Germans refused to believe that the Enigma had been cracked, rather than Allied efforts to conceal how effective their code-breaking was. Such successes led not only to the Germans falsely believing that the Metox emitted a trackable signal, but also inflated the reputation of Huff Duff (High Frequency Direction Finding) which in turn concealed the existence of ULTRA intercepts.

As far as subsequent radar detectors, it's not so much for range increases as being able to detect radar signals at all. Not long after the Metox fell out of use due to concern with signal detection, the Allies started using the H2S radar which the Metox could not detect. The Naxos was developed to detect the 10cm wavelength H2S signals, but even that couldn't pick up the American H2X radar. That was further developed for use on both British and US aircraft so the Naxos never had the success the Metox did.

[Wisq]

Regardless, at 2nmi range, I may as well not have a radar detector at all. By the time I detect something, it'll already be visible anyway.

The T4 radar detector jumps back out to 13 nautical miles again. So I feel like T3 being 2nmi must be a mistake.

[CellNav]

Originally posted by Wisq:

Regardless, at 2nmi range, I may as well not have a radar detector at all. By the time I detect something, it'll already be visible anyway.

The T4 radar detector jumps back out to 13 nautical miles again. So I feel like T3 being 2nmi must be a mistake.

I've read that the Naxos wasn't very useful, it's range short, yeah .. :(

In the game, I've debated with myself if there is a mechanic for radar detection since the aircraft blows by the detector range and into visual range ... :( ... There is a parameter in the data sheets for "indirect radar detection precision", maybe needs a tweak, IDK.

Game-wise (at the moment), the best anti-aircraft device is the Snorkel since the aircraft isn't setup with proper behavior and parameters, players commenting correctly it's a bit too good.

IDK how the game uses a radar detector for spawning, meaning IDK if having a detector just lowers the "spawn chance" when compared with the aircraft's "activity level" (speculation on my part). I would say it's just a "place card" for now and perhaps will have a meaning later.

[kenberg]

FuG 350 Naxos Z or FuMB 7 Naxos
The original system that detected H2S (9 cm) radar,

Unable to detected H2X (3 cm) radar,
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FuG 350 Naxos ZD
Combined Z and ZX allowing 9 cm and 3 cm detection in the same system,

FuG 350 Naxos ZD started replacing the original system on any FuMB system that used Naxos some time in 1944,
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But we dont read this as at that time uboats were hiding in port or being sunk from asw's,

As FuG 350 Naxos ZD was still useless as many uboat's were still caught on the surface or just did not make it back to port,

A uboat with out a snorkel needs to surface to recharge the battery and many type vii / ix in late 1944 still did not have a snorkel,
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So work started on the watertight FuMB 35 Athos that has the radar detector on the top of the snorkel head,

FuMB 35 Athos system had a passive radar / radio signal direction finder and active visual direction finder as well as a passive acoustic direction finder and a passive infrared direction finder,

All displayed on a very advanced for its time cathode ray tube oscilloscope,

The FuMB 35 Athos was planned to replace all older FuMB's on type vii / ix in 1945,

And the FuG 351 Korfu Z was planned to replace the FuG 350 Naxos ZD in the FuMB 35 Athos system in 1945.

[pandorum]

This is exactly my problem now. I just upgraded T3 radar detector and it is just awful. It has something like 4.5 km range. During daylight my watchmen always spot further than this useless equipment. During night, depending on the weather, it provides additional protection layer of 1-2 km.

Was this Naxos equipment really that bad in real life ?

[Urfisch]

The FuMB 7 was in different versions. Naxos U was useless. Version Naxos I had a range of 5-8km. Naxos Ia with another antenna had 10-20km.

In general the receiver equipment was quite good and in the Luftwaffe version its range was 100km. So it was the Uboat based antenna, which was decreasing the range significantly.