I am fat and out of shape, advice for game?

[KarusDaedlyn]

I started off this thread being self-deprecating, so I'd appreciate it if replies stay somewhat positive.

I have a hormone disorder that makes losing weight pretty rough, but I want to combine my geek nature of beating games with something I have to do physically so I'm driven to do it frequently.

Combine that with current lockdowns going on and I am hoping that even if I can't get to be super fit, I'm wanting to shoot for moderate health.

Thing is, the game is really hard for me. Even the first opponent (other than sparring partner). I've never really played boxing games besides NES punchout, and obviously this isn't the same.

I think I am using my arms too much (I've seen this referenced, to use body for punches) because by the third round I'm even having trouble keeping hands up for defense.

I see opponent protecting face a lot but if I go for body shots it just opens me up to combos to the face. If I get overly defensive to my face, I get hit with what I assume to be hooks to the side, but I can't seem to do the same thing back, yet.

I'm not complaining about the game, it's great, I want to use it to improve fitness, but I figure I need to try some actual strategy so I can improve and not just trying to punch harder.

[s.plisskin [Linux Decker]]

I highly recommend BoxVR and Beat Saber to get into an exercise routine. BoxVR is much more brutal for an all out body workout than BeatSaber, but excellent when you just need a light workout.

[dbix11]

I'm excited for you, during this lock down i have been doing HIIT with this game. Ill do some online work, play wow for a bit then get into a fight for about 5 rounds.

Then go back to what i need to do, and then do another fight for 5 rounds.

I'm averaging about 3-5 fights a day and the pounds are already coming off.

Playing this much has got me perpetually sore but i feel great. Besides a few random bar fights i never actually learned how to throw a proper punch. Now i feel like i can not look hideous if i was to work out on a real bag.

The next level is my foot work. Foot work is so important and helps with movement, angles and dodges. Plus its a great core work out.

Between this game and beat saber im turning into a total Chad that can dance and defend himself at 35 years old, better late than never

[Clown Shoes]

Originally posted by KarusDaedlyn:

I started off this thread being self-deprecating, so I'd appreciate it if replies stay somewhat positive.

I have a hormone disorder that makes losing weight pretty rough, but I want to combine my geek nature of beating games with something I have to do physically so I'm driven to do it frequently.

Combine that with current lockdowns going on and I am hoping that even if I can't get to be super fit, I'm wanting to shoot for moderate health.

Thing is, the game is really hard for me. Even the first opponent (other than sparring partner). I've never really played boxing games besides NES punchout, and obviously this isn't the same.

I think I am using my arms too much (I've seen this referenced, to use body for punches) because by the third round I'm even having trouble keeping hands up for defense.

I see opponent protecting face a lot but if I go for body shots it just opens me up to combos to the face. If I get overly defensive to my face, I get hit with what I assume to be hooks to the side, but I can't seem to do the same thing back, yet.

I'm not complaining about the game, it's great, I want to use it to improve fitness, but I figure I need to try some actual strategy so I can improve and not just trying to punch harder.

My advice would just be keep trying and don't overdo it too early.
If you are struggling with opponents go to settings and give yourself a harder punch, as you get better lower it in stages back to normal.
try things like jumping into range with a jab hook combo and stepping out again quickly to miss the return punches.
there is a point where the ai is very open to a big hook when you are just out of range they tend to lower guard before any attack, as they lower it step in throw a hard hook and you should hurt them.
take the minute rest between rounds
don't get into a brawling match, you will punch yourself out
have fun!

[Chaindrop]

My advice is to not use Thrill of the Fight by itself, specially if you're out of shape. Mix it with some other exercise games like Beat Saber and BoxVR. Also, focus more on the accuracy of your punches instead of tiring yourself out with long combos. Throw harder and quicker punches when you got a clean hit in and your opponent looks groggy.

[DanComanchero]

Originally posted by Heerz Johnny:

Originally posted by KarusDaedlyn:

Thank you so much for all of that advice. I will admit, where I am at now, 1 match (3 full rounds) is pretty much my limit for a session. I know that's pretty pathetic, but, I'm pretty much starting at square one.

Diet is definitely a factor. Using an MyFitnessPal to track calories, and make sure I at least get what nutrients I need to stay safe with medical stuff.

Cardio is just walking for right now, but better than what it was before.

The game is just part of the fitness plan, but I'm more motivated when i can at least perform competitively. The training dummy/speed bag ideas sound great. I haven't really tried to determine my current pace, and I prolly should see how the hit detection works on a dummy for hooks and such, because I never seem to land those.

Really looking forward to just improving over time. I probably am not going to be a true athlete anytime soon, but I'd be happy to get to half as good as I was before medical problems.

Thanks again for the advice.

A little info... I'm past a half century, bad back,bursitis, and tendonitis. I have high blood pressure and slight asthma.
I weighed 262 lbs a little over 2 years ago, I used this game, box vr and beat saber, weight training, and proper dietary nutrition to drop to 197 lbs in about4 months. Although it was drastic it wasn't necessary to do so in a short time, nor is it all that healthy.

I'm now at a comfortable 202 to 205 with little to no effort to stay at this weight. Most of my medical conditions are gone and I still workout but less often.


One 3 round match on normal had me spent when I started.... 3 months later I would fight the whole roster in one go.

YouTube beginner boxing and shadowboxing vids is something you want to watch.

Practice on the equipment. Try and keep loose and consistantly moving your head while punching to keep the counter punches from connecting.

Don't stay in one spot too long and don't get into a slug fest that will drain your stamina and you might not win the encounter.

Don't over exert when punching, you will handicap yourself with the auto adjust on.

Over punching and not enough movement will tire you out much more quickly than dodging and weaving and punching at openings. You also burn more calories with movement.

Most of us start by slug festing until experience kicks in.

Don't be discouraged, improvement comes with play time.

Good luck on your journey!!

Wow 197 lbs in 4 months is amazing!! Congrats :)

Ive lost 10 Kilo ( so about 20 lbs) in 3 months and thought that was hard !

Ive also used MyFitnessPal to count calories.

Im about to buy a heartrate chest strap or however its called in english , and then I cant wait to see how much calories Thrill of the Fight burns! :)

[Lazarus {FATE}]

Originally posted by FilthyDan:

Originally posted by Heerz Johnny:

A little info... I'm past a half century, bad back,bursitis, and tendonitis. I have high blood pressure and slight asthma.
I weighed 262 lbs a little over 2 years ago, I used this game, box vr and beat saber, weight training, and proper dietary nutrition to drop to 197 lbs in about4 months. Although it was drastic it wasn't necessary to do so in a short time, nor is it all that healthy.

I'm now at a comfortable 202 to 205 with little to no effort to stay at this weight. Most of my medical conditions are gone and I still workout but less often.


One 3 round match on normal had me spent when I started.... 3 months later I would fight the whole roster in one go.

YouTube beginner boxing and shadowboxing vids is something you want to watch.

Practice on the equipment. Try and keep loose and consistantly moving your head while punching to keep the counter punches from connecting.

Don't stay in one spot too long and don't get into a slug fest that will drain your stamina and you might not win the encounter.

Don't over exert when punching, you will handicap yourself with the auto adjust on.

Over punching and not enough movement will tire you out much more quickly than dodging and weaving and punching at openings. You also burn more calories with movement.

Most of us start by slug festing until experience kicks in.

Don't be discouraged, improvement comes with play time.

Good luck on your journey!!

Wow 197 lbs in 4 months is amazing!! Congrats :)

Ive lost 10 Kilo ( so about 20 lbs) in 3 months and thought that was hard !

Ive also used MyFitnessPal to count calories.

Im about to buy a heartrate chest strap or however its called in english , and then I cant wait to see how much calories Thrill of the Fight burns! :)

Dropped from 262 to 197, not lose 197 lbs.

I lose anywhere from 7 to 11 real calories depending on how I want to play on my heart rate monitor.

[DanComanchero]

Originally posted by Heerz Johnny:

Originally posted by FilthyDan:

Wow 197 lbs in 4 months is amazing!! Congrats :)

Ive lost 10 Kilo ( so about 20 lbs) in 3 months and thought that was hard !

Ive also used MyFitnessPal to count calories.

Im about to buy a heartrate chest strap or however its called in english , and then I cant wait to see how much calories Thrill of the Fight burns! :)

Dropped from 262 to 197, not lose 197 lbs.

I lose anywhere from 7 to 11 real calories depending on how I want to play on my heart rate monitor.

Ahhhh okay I got you :D

What heart rate monitor are you using?

Im thinking of getting the H10 Polar, it works with that VR Fitness App

[Lazarus {FATE}]

https://www.amazon.ca/Wahoo-TICKR-Monitor-Memory-Bluetooth/dp/B00O5Y4FXA/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=wahoo+tickr&qid=1592141271&s=sports&sprefix=wah&sr=1-2#

Is the one I've been using. No integration in vr apps though. Seems more accurate than my watch.

[DanComanchero]

Originally posted by Heerz Johnny:

https://www.amazon.ca/Wahoo-TICKR-Monitor-Memory-Bluetooth/dp/B00O5Y4FXA/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=wahoo+tickr&qid=1592141271&s=sports&sprefix=wah&sr=1-2#

Is the one I've been using. No integration in vr apps though. Seems more accurate than my watch.

Cool thanks. Yes I hear everytime that those chest straps are way more accurate.

[Hollowpoint]

Alrighty. Advice from a fellow fat-body then. I'm 285, 6 foot, and thankfully a history of exercise gave me more muscle over fat than most fat boys, but my moobs could use some work So yeah... fatty.

I made it through the entire roster to the last guy before losing my first match. Doubt this is any good, but whatever. I am spent after 2 matches, easy, and I am DRIPPING with sweat and need to dab my Quest to remove sweat from the headband.

So... yeah. What I've discovered thus far:

If you throw a certain punch too often, they will start to weave, duck, or sidestep it. Change it up, and that includes taking time to defend while just prodding a bit high or low, then throwing a single punch when their guard changes or to force it to change.

Enemies who have longer reach than you are a problem. Extend your leading glove towards them at the beginning of a match to get an idea as to how close you need to be to land hits. Remember that your trailing glove needs to be closer for those beefier shots. Stay at the edge of that leading punch range if your opponent seems to have stubby T-Rex arms, and crawl far inside their range if they have longer reach than you to throw off their swings.


I -think- uppercuts are broken or I'm throwing them wrong compared to the game. Probably the latter.. I've never actually landed one that connected with their chin instead of their chest. Might just be me.

If you go for body shots, get low, hit fast, get out.

Don't drop your gloves on the return from throwing a punch or the AI will bean you in the side of the head. Keep moving and you'll avoid taking as many hits too. If you get tired, play keep away. Nothing wrong with throwing less punches for greater accuracy -and- avoiding throwing garbage punches that may get you popped in the dome.

This goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway: Be safe. I have a bad history of joint problems BEFORE I became a fat ♥♥♥♥, so throwing my shoulder out AGAIN while playing was a small surprise and a warning.

Good luck. Whoop some ass

[Ryoga-]

Originally posted by KarusDaedlyn:

I started off this thread being self-deprecating, so I'd appreciate it if replies stay somewhat positive.

I have a hormone disorder that makes losing weight pretty rough, but I want to combine my geek nature of beating games with something I have to do physically so I'm driven to do it frequently.

Combine that with current lockdowns going on and I am hoping that even if I can't get to be super fit, I'm wanting to shoot for moderate health.

Thing is, the game is really hard for me. Even the first opponent (other than sparring partner). I've never really played boxing games besides NES punchout, and obviously this isn't the same.

I think I am using my arms too much (I've seen this referenced, to use body for punches) because by the third round I'm even having trouble keeping hands up for defense.

I see opponent protecting face a lot but if I go for body shots it just opens me up to combos to the face. If I get overly defensive to my face, I get hit with what I assume to be hooks to the side, but I can't seem to do the same thing back, yet.

I'm not complaining about the game, it's great, I want to use it to improve fitness, but I figure I need to try some actual strategy so I can improve and not just trying to punch harder.

I'm intrigued to know your experience some months later

[Donald's Trump Right Hand Man]

Originally posted by Ryogareloaded:

Originally posted by KarusDaedlyn:

I started off this thread being self-deprecating, so I'd appreciate it if replies stay somewhat positive.

I have a hormone disorder that makes losing weight pretty rough, but I want to combine my geek nature of beating games with something I have to do physically so I'm driven to do it frequently.

Combine that with current lockdowns going on and I am hoping that even if I can't get to be super fit, I'm wanting to shoot for moderate health.

Thing is, the game is really hard for me. Even the first opponent (other than sparring partner). I've never really played boxing games besides NES punchout, and obviously this isn't the same.

I think I am using my arms too much (I've seen this referenced, to use body for punches) because by the third round I'm even having trouble keeping hands up for defense.

I see opponent protecting face a lot but if I go for body shots it just opens me up to combos to the face. If I get overly defensive to my face, I get hit with what I assume to be hooks to the side, but I can't seem to do the same thing back, yet.

I'm not complaining about the game, it's great, I want to use it to improve fitness, but I figure I need to try some actual strategy so I can improve and not just trying to punch harder.

I'm intrigued to know your experience some months later

He the quitted.

[meowmers]

A big part of boxing is emotional. Putting in a lot of effort and having your opponent no-sell your punches can be very demoralizing. If it is important for you to win, try lowering the chin settings and fighting the easier opponents. Otherwise, it's just a game and you aren't really getting hit, take breaks when you need them and try to learn from your mistakes.

[KarusDaedlyn]

Originally posted by Ryogareloaded:

Originally posted by KarusDaedlyn:

I started off this thread being self-deprecating, so I'd appreciate it if replies stay somewhat positive.

I have a hormone disorder that makes losing weight pretty rough, but I want to combine my geek nature of beating games with something I have to do physically so I'm driven to do it frequently.

Combine that with current lockdowns going on and I am hoping that even if I can't get to be super fit, I'm wanting to shoot for moderate health.

Thing is, the game is really hard for me. Even the first opponent (other than sparring partner). I've never really played boxing games besides NES punchout, and obviously this isn't the same.

I think I am using my arms too much (I've seen this referenced, to use body for punches) because by the third round I'm even having trouble keeping hands up for defense.

I see opponent protecting face a lot but if I go for body shots it just opens me up to combos to the face. If I get overly defensive to my face, I get hit with what I assume to be hooks to the side, but I can't seem to do the same thing back, yet.

I'm not complaining about the game, it's great, I want to use it to improve fitness, but I figure I need to try some actual strategy so I can improve and not just trying to punch harder.

I'm intrigued to know your experience some months later

I've actually gone from 365 to 330. I'll admit, I don't play specifically this game as often as when I started, but realized that getting burned out and taking multiple days to recover wasn't ideal.

Instead, I tend to play only 2-3 times a week, but incorporated regular walks every day, and started using myfitnesspal to track calories. I'll also switch it up sometimes and try beat saber, or really just any of those VR games to keep moving, and that helps too.

What I've learned technique-wise is to not overestimate the length of my punches. Unlike other VR games where hit detection seems to 'snap' more, your position in the play 'area' really matters, which is why I figured walking more frequently is helping. Now that I have even a little bit more locomotion, I can step in and out, and notice I'm connecting more often.

Also started a new IRL job, and figure that helps somewhat too. Less tempted to eat garbage when I'm around others.

[Ryoga-]

Originally posted by KarusDaedlyn:

Originally posted by Ryogareloaded:

I'm intrigued to know your experience some months later

I've actually gone from 365 to 330. I'll admit, I don't play specifically this game as often as when I started, but realized that getting burned out and taking multiple days to recover wasn't ideal.

Instead, I tend to play only 2-3 times a week, but incorporated regular walks every day, and started using myfitnesspal to track calories. I'll also switch it up sometimes and try beat saber, or really just any of those VR games to keep moving, and that helps too.

What I've learned technique-wise is to not overestimate the length of my punches. Unlike other VR games where hit detection seems to 'snap' more, your position in the play 'area' really matters, which is why I figured walking more frequently is helping. Now that I have even a little bit more locomotion, I can step in and out, and notice I'm connecting more often.

Also started a new IRL job, and figure that helps somewhat too. Less tempted to eat garbage when I'm around others.

Well, considering your condition I think this is very good. Keep up the good work!