Can the spear still double kill with one charge

[Fora_Nosowa]

i saw some videos a year ago see that people were killing 2 sleepers with one changed spear and i was wondering if that is still possible. i try to do it and did not work, it was probably a skill issue but still wondering

[Zappron]

i think you can still pierce through enemies, but it's rare to get the setup of having two overlapping sleeper heads within range. if you're talking about swinging the spear around during the swing, basically swiping across several heads, that has been patched out.

[Artek [General]]

Technically yes, but every melee can do it - the spear is just the easiest to do it with due to extra reach it has.

Whenever you do a melee attack - the game checks for a hit twice:
1) It checks if there was any sleeper in the aim circle (that's when the circle tightens up);
2) it checks the actual "physical" swing of the melee too.
This ensures that the melee is extra responsive and allows to hit sleepers even without having to aim straight at them, while shrunken aim guarantees a hit.
But it leaves an exploit of sorts: while you can't double-check the same sleeper - you can do it to different ones.

So: if you you find 2 sleepers REAL close to each other - you can setup an attack in such a way that you will hit one sleeper with the shrunken circle, while the 2nd sleeper gets hit with the physical check by standing in the way. I've done it before, its not too hard, but relies purely on sleepers' positioning.

[Stormer]

All melees can do it

[tru0067]

Was this the video?

https://youtu.be/j-I8ILiSYVk

In which case, yes! Spear can still perform this kind of double hit. The video largely features a spear specific kind of double hit where you hit with both the hitscan check and the initial hitbox. Other melees can't double hit in this way, though they can still double hit by overlapping two enemies at the same time with a single hitbox (Spear can also do this kind of double hit, and the video shows one like this towards the end).

For double hits in general (not the spear specific kind of double hit) there's this guide by Chill Dude:

https://youtu.be/3jtCoTDQLyM

[tru0067]

Originally posted by Artek General:

So: if you you find 2 sleepers REAL close to each other - you can setup an attack in such a way that you will hit one sleeper with the shrunken circle, while the 2nd sleeper gets hit with the physical check by standing in the way. I've done it before, its not too hard, but relies purely on sleepers' positioning.

This kind of double hit is spear-specific. Other melee weapons would only hit a single sleeper in this case (the one that you hitscan with the "shrunken circle").

[Artek [General]]

Originally posted by tru0067:

Originally posted by Artek General:

So: if you you find 2 sleepers REAL close to each other - you can setup an attack in such a way that you will hit one sleeper with the shrunken circle, while the 2nd sleeper gets hit with the physical check by standing in the way. I've done it before, its not too hard, but relies purely on sleepers' positioning.

This kind of double hit is spear-specific. Other melee weapons would only hit a single sleeper in this case (the one that you hitscan with the "shrunken circle").

Fairly certain there was a guy on discord who could perform it with almost anything...
He had the "guy loading gun" avatar. Forgot his name completely...

[GoldenShooter360]

Originally posted by Artek General:

Originally posted by tru0067:

This kind of double hit is spear-specific. Other melee weapons would only hit a single sleeper in this case (the one that you hitscan with the "shrunken circle").

Fairly certain there was a guy on discord who could perform it with almost anything...
He had the "guy loading gun" avatar. Forgot his name completely...

I don't think he's around anymore
Haven't seen anyone that matched that description since I joined dec 2023.