Split-screen multiplayer on PC?

[PC]

Would be a great feature because is a coop game, I would totally buy if it includes this feature.

[Ezimeh]

+1 plz!

[drewbstar]

The main issue is, is that it's a LOT of work for rather little pay off.
I'm pretty sure Simon addressed this a while ago.

Remember, they're only like 9 guys working on this. :/

[Joe, aka. The Man]

You'll buy the game even if it doesnt have splitscreen, OP :D

[PC]

Originally posted by Noob:

You'll buy the game even if it doesnt have splitscreen, OP :D

Nah, I have a lot of coop online games, this one looks cool but if it doesn´t have split-screen multiplayer I will just ignore it until its on a big sale like 60% off.

[Gravy]

@Gian check out 'Space Beast Terror Fright" on steam, a one dev indie game thats quite similiar in concept. I mention it as it has up to 4 player splitscreen coop as well as online, check it out.

[PC]

Originally posted by Gravy:

@Gian check out 'Space Beast Terror Fright" on steam, a one dev indie game thats quite similiar in concept. I mention it as it has up to 4 player splitscreen coop as well as online, check it out.

Yep, it was already in my wishlist, this christmas is coming to my account :)

[Simon Viklund]

Yeah, allowing splitscreen co-op is a lot of work and the feature won't make the game more appealing to the vast majority of our potential customers. We're big fans of couch co-op but it feels more like a console thing - and again - it's unfortunately a function that likely wouldn't return the time and effort we'd have to invest in it.

[PC]

Originally posted by SimonViklund:

Yeah, allowing splitscreen co-op is a lot of work and the feature won't make the game more appealing to the vast majority of our potential customers. We're big fans of couch co-op but it feels more like a console thing - and again - it's unfortunately a function that likely wouldn't return the time and effort we'd have to invest in it.

I understand thanks for replying, it worries me the fact that the split-screen/local couch multiplayer function is almost forgotten in the gaming industry, because every online multiplayer game dies sooner or later, by that I mean no more servers or just a few servers with 2 or 3 people or totally empty, but if it has local multiplayer you can play it as long as you have someone with you to play.

Your game looks really cool and fun probably in the future I will get it I wish you success, greetings from Uruguay.

[drewbstar]

Originally posted by Gian:

Originally posted by SimonViklund:

Yeah, allowing splitscreen co-op is a lot of work and the feature won't make the game more appealing to the vast majority of our potential customers. We're big fans of couch co-op but it feels more like a console thing - and again - it's unfortunately a function that likely wouldn't return the time and effort we'd have to invest in it.

I understand thanks for replying, it worries me the fact that the split-screen/local couch multiplayer function is almost forgotten in the gaming industry, because every online multiplayer game dies sooner or later, by that I mean no more servers or just a few servers with 2 or 3 people or totally empty, but if it has local multiplayer you can play it as long as you have someone with you to play.

Your game looks really cool and fun probably in the future I will get it I wish you success, greetings from Uruguay.

I think the main thing is, this is a PC game and not a console game.
And if Steam's matchmaking servers go down, we'll have bigger problems than GTFO.

[Salem]

Originally posted by Gian:

I understand thanks for replying, it worries me the fact that the split-screen/local couch multiplayer function is almost forgotten in the gaming industry, because every online multiplayer game dies sooner or later, by that I mean no more servers or just a few servers with 2 or 3 people or totally empty, but if it has local multiplayer you can play it as long as you have someone with you to play.

Your game looks really cool and fun probably in the future I will get it I wish you success, greetings from Uruguay.

GTFO is going to use peer-to-peer, so even if no one but you and another player play the game, you'll still be able to play together long after support is dropped. I hope I'm not summoning some sort of bad omen here, sorry Simon.
On the downside, this also means no host migration and possible lag/disconnection issues.

[wwwizzarrdry]

Originally posted by SimonViklund:

Yeah, allowing splitscreen co-op is a lot of work and the feature won't make the game more appealing to the vast majority of our potential customers. We're big fans of couch co-op but it feels more like a console thing - and again - it's unfortunately a function that likely wouldn't return the time and effort we'd have to invest in it.

Borderlands 2 for PC removed splitscreen, but they allow running multiple instances of the same executable. So endeavoring users with decent hardware can simply write a batch script to launch to launch 2 sessions and play together by setting to LAN mode.

As long as you allow LAN play and running multiple save profiles in two conccurent instances, I'll settle for the hack over nothing.

Example:

@echo off
C:
cd "C:\Steam\steamapps\common\BorderlandsPreSequel\Binaries\Win32"
start BorderlandsPreSequel.exe -AlwaysFocus -ControllerOffset=0 -SaveDataId=1 -ResX=1920 -ResY=1080 -WindowedFullscreen -WindowPosX=0 -WindowPosY=0

start BorderlandsPreSequel.exe -AlwaysFocus -ControllerOffset=1 -SaveDataId=2 -ResX=1920 -ResY=1080 -WindowedFullscreen -WindowPosX=1920 -WindowPosY=0
exit

[TooooooooBad]

Originally posted by wwwizzarrdry:

Originally posted by SimonViklund:

Yeah, allowing splitscreen co-op is a lot of work and the feature won't make the game more appealing to the vast majority of our potential customers. We're big fans of couch co-op but it feels more like a console thing - and again - it's unfortunately a function that likely wouldn't return the time and effort we'd have to invest in it.

Borderlands 2 for PC removed splitscreen, but they allow running multiple instances of the same executable. So endeavoring users with decent hardware can simply write a batch script to launch to launch 2 sessions and play together by setting to LAN mode.

As long as you allow LAN play and running multiple save profiles in two conccurent instances, I'll settle for the hack over nothing.

Example:

@echo off
C:
cd "C:\Steam\steamapps\common\BorderlandsPreSequel\Binaries\Win32"
start BorderlandsPreSequel.exe -AlwaysFocus -ControllerOffset=0 -SaveDataId=1 -ResX=1920 -ResY=1080 -WindowedFullscreen -WindowPosX=0 -WindowPosY=0

start BorderlandsPreSequel.exe -AlwaysFocus -ControllerOffset=1 -SaveDataId=2 -ResX=1920 -ResY=1080 -WindowedFullscreen -WindowPosX=1920 -WindowPosY=0
exit

Yup that is the best solution for PC "split couch coop". Split screen is a console feature, PC you can just ran more than one executable and still play on a single computer.

Path of Exiles also allow a maximum of 2 executables at the same time for exemple. Get a double screen setup and there we go.

Soo Gian and all other looking for split screen. You kinda got it on PC.

[PC]

Originally posted by GLaDOS:

Originally posted by wwwizzarrdry:

Borderlands 2 for PC removed splitscreen, but they allow running multiple instances of the same executable. So endeavoring users with decent hardware can simply write a batch script to launch to launch 2 sessions and play together by setting to LAN mode.

As long as you allow LAN play and running multiple save profiles in two conccurent instances, I'll settle for the hack over nothing.

Example:

@echo off
C:
cd "C:\Steam\steamapps\common\BorderlandsPreSequel\Binaries\Win32"
start BorderlandsPreSequel.exe -AlwaysFocus -ControllerOffset=0 -SaveDataId=1 -ResX=1920 -ResY=1080 -WindowedFullscreen -WindowPosX=0 -WindowPosY=0

start BorderlandsPreSequel.exe -AlwaysFocus -ControllerOffset=1 -SaveDataId=2 -ResX=1920 -ResY=1080 -WindowedFullscreen -WindowPosX=1920 -WindowPosY=0
exit

Yup that is the best solution for PC "split couch coop". Split screen is a console feature, PC you can just ran more than one executable and still play on a single computer.

Path of Exiles also allow a maximum of 2 executables at the same time for exemple. Get a double screen setup and there we go.

Soo Gian and all other looking for split screen. You kinda got it on PC.

It is not that easy, when you play 2 executables at the same time there is high chance to both exes to crash, also its really difficult and annoying to configure all the controls, graphic settings and find a way to have both windows activated at the same time but whatever.

[TooooooooBad]

Originally posted by Gian:

Originally posted by GLaDOS:

Yup that is the best solution for PC "split couch coop". Split screen is a console feature, PC you can just ran more than one executable and still play on a single computer.

Path of Exiles also allow a maximum of 2 executables at the same time for exemple. Get a double screen setup and there we go.

Soo Gian and all other looking for split screen. You kinda got it on PC.

It is not that easy, when you play 2 executables at the same time there is high chance to both exes to crash, also its really difficult and annoying to configure all the controls, graphic settings and find a way to have both windows activated at the same time but whatever.

True, you also need external program to run 2 mouses, 2 keyboard, and they have to work on separate instance of game. It is possible, but you need some work and research to get this working. PC isn't really made for split screen, Console is. Yet GTFO is a PC game atm. Maybe once we all have a blast playing this game on PC, devs make a console version with an integrated split screen.

[wwwizzarrdry]

Originally posted by Gian:

PC isn't really made for split screen, Console is.

Just curious where this myth started? Just as all squares are rectangles, all PCs are consoles.
There's nothing preventing splitscreen gaming on Steam machine variants; and honestly,
as Gearbox have shown with BL2, getting 60fps is not a problem here.

Devs could easily build to a broader recommended spec, while stating that certain features such as split-screen have a minimum required spec to function - Everyone wins.