Atroce Card click combo thing

[RobDeLaMorte]

+0.01% DPS per click as long as the combo stays up. It sounds pretty great for active play (Active meaning letting an autoclick work while I play Earth Defense Force 2025 on the PS3 hurhur -w-) but it has one big annoyance.

The ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Click combo time limit.

If you don't click for 5 minutes, your combo drops down to 0 in seconds flat and it utterly trashes your DPS. This is SERIOUSLY breaking my balls! Go downstairs to grab a glass of juice and look around for snacks without an autoclicker on? Rip DPS. Play windowed to nose at the internet while you wait for the game to do it's thing? Rip DPS! ><


I know that you're MEANT to go full idle but I want to try something different. Right now the card is fine (Especially with bonus crit damage. Oof.) but I reaaaaally would love some way of prolonging that combo 5 minute timer. It sounds like a lot of time but it isn't, and it's so easy to forget and just ruin what was going to be a long run. Plus, if there were a way to increase it, it'd allow for cheeky comboes with Idle mode bonuses stacking on top of that for more than 4 minutes.

[DarthaNyan]

Set up auto clicker then that wont be interfering with your activities.

4min 40 sec to preserve combo is plenty and 5 min til it drops to 0 (in earlier versions it was 1 min).

Originally posted by RobDeLaMorte:

Plus, if there were a way to increase it, it'd allow for cheeky comboes with Idle mode bonuses stacking on top of that for more than 4 minutes.

Idle bonuses dont stack with combo in any way. Its either one or the other with Idle having a priority but never both.

[RobDeLaMorte]

>> Except it does though, that's muh point. The game needs to be active, and while it's fine to do a bit of reading or look at something in a small window, it's super easy to forget when I want to look at something in a larger window or fullscreen.

The main thing is just I forget easily and I end up dropping 100,000,000%s of DPS because I went to do a thing for 5 minutes without leaving the autoclicker on. -3-

[DarthaNyan]

Then: http://bfy.tw/7ONW

[RobDeLaMorte]

I don't use that though. >>

Oh well, I mean a 2000+ manual reset is fine too for now I guess. :3 This isn't exactly high priority or anything.


More importantly, they need to put Isis and Lif into the game. I need more cute monsters. o/

[roboticaust]

Active builds are for those truly devoted to vegitating in front of their pc 24/7. You were warned before you bought that silly card lol

[Klash]

If you want to use active cards, but you're not willing to give in your soul or your computer to the combo madness... You might not know what you want.

[RobDeLaMorte]

It's just the combo drop is harsh is all. ¬_¬ It empties from like 200,000 to 0 in well under twenty seconds.

[DarthaNyan]

Originally posted by RobDeLaMorte:

It's just the combo drop is harsh is all. ¬_¬ It empties from like 200,000 to 0 in well under twenty seconds.

if you are going to 200k combo then you already wasted alot of time. Optimal runs are usually somewhere between 50-100k clicks. Anything beyond is not worth the time invested unless it was an overnight run (with clicker).

[RobDeLaMorte]

Well it was more like a several hour run while I stole people's ♥♥♥♥ on Metal Gear Solid 5. >>

I'm not very good at this efficiency thing, yar.

[Klash]

It takes about 5 minutes for the combo to start dropping, if anything the system is too fair, if no click in 60 seconds is considered idle, then at that point the combos should drop straight to 0.
I used a clicking build, mainly Atroce and Baphomet to get a small boost at the start, the infinite scaling of clicking is very good at early stages when battle manuals are scarce and idle cards tend to be expensive, Death Lord was broken (would take 2 BM's instead of 1) and its boost is not that high, that and back then you were required to have at least 100 manuals to get a beneficial boost from him, else your DPS would suffer, having 99 in some ocasions would make you lose about 2 manuals worth of DPS Through Death Lord.
When you think that 5 minutes is not a long enough time to keep the combo up, remember that it used to be 1 minute, and clicking builds are meant for active play.
I don't know how far into the game you are, but if you can already transcend with about 20 manuals each time, you should consider investing into idle, don't respec your cards if you still have the free respec, save it for later as you'll be able to completly switch to idle without losing any manuals.
I'll repeat myself, but if you want to use an active build you must accept the timer, in one way or another, it seems to be that automating methods are mostly approved by some members of the community, although a line on the savefile makes me wonder if the developers do, though i guess they do allow it but meh.

[RobDeLaMorte]

Well I got badgered to change to an idle build so I guess that'll be a thing eventually.

>> To be honest it's less efficient right now than the Atroce build I had going was though. People really underestimate just how much 1% dps every 4th click really is. Also being able to use skills makes it filthy for clearing further floors than you have any right to.

I think I was getting like 5000+ manuals every five hours or something before, but now it's like F670ish and 4100+ manuals after the same amount of time roughly. ; ;


Where the hell do you even get free respecs anyway. o.o I had to sacrifice 25%.

[Klash]

The first one is free.

The big thing that makes idle better imo, is that you don't have to worry about it, the couple days i played with the active build were pretty unhealty, nowadays i still don't close the game, but i just check it, level up the Ward&Phyllis combo and leave it farming and forget about it while i do other stuff.

If you're gettting less manuals on the same amount of time, that sounds pretty bad, BUT! Do you need to put the same amount of effort to get there?

[roboticaust]

Technically he paid the 25% tax. There was no freebie. At any rate, his production of manuals didn't dip the full 25% loss, plus he refused to listen to how to spend his manuals after the reset which kinda hurt his potential.

But alas, he'd rather claim I badgered him when all I said was he could start over at a slight cost if he truly felt hindered by active build; then go on to complain it's worse because he only took partial advise on how to set up his cards after doing so upon making the decision himself to reset ;p

[RobDeLaMorte]

No you like badgered me super hard. I still have the scratch marks and Tubercolosis. -3-

I think maybe the idle thing depends more on the transcendent things being on the right people more than active play rawr.