Will having more RAM improve my fps in this game?

[SuperL0rtie]

My current setup is a 4770k, GTX 1070 with 8gb of RAM.

In my park with a lot of scenary, a few rides and 5k guests, I get really bad fps (15-20).

I overclocked my CPU up to 4.2ghz but it didn't really helped.

Now I'm just wondering since the recomended requirements is 12gb of RAM, will it help my FPS and the CPU to have 16gb of RAM?

[Jacknm2]

The Relentless님이 먼저 게시:

advise : upgrade your desktop

His desktop is pretty much superior to yours other than his ram. He too has an i7, lower model with the samr 22nm process but a k series able to be overclocked and its using pretty much the same arcitecture as your i7 4790 and my 4790k.

His GPU is far more superior and his only downfall is he has 8GB ram but has already confirmed his total ram usage whilst in game is around 3GB so this is not the bottleneck.

Read the thread before making silly suggestions like "upgrade your desktop" or upgrade your potato because thsts how i read it.

Hes also playing at 1080p and not 1366x768 thats your systen is currently displaying.

[Zhardoz]

(Read the thread before making silly suggestions like "upgrade your desktop")
indeed sorry about that. Im just saying; on my system everything runs fine.

[Jacknm2]

The Relentless님이 먼저 게시:

(Read the thread before making silly suggestions like "upgrade your desktop")
indeed sorry about that.

Its fine. Your read back and ill apologise if i seemed overly zealous. Steam forums and im used to getting some smart allec response.

You should however try yourself investing in a 1080p monitor and seeing what FPS you get with your system at that res, it was one thing i noticed in your steam system info you posted.

[Zhardoz]

(Hes also playing at 1080p and not 1366x768 thats your systen is currently displaying.)
I see now... again sorry to disturb.

[Zhardoz]

(i deleted my previous system info as it was unusfull for the issue in question.) But yes indeed the hd thing do make a difference.

[SuperL0rtie]

That's the stats that I have while playing the game btw

https://gyazo.com/4b03ae05c6b98eff0175c593a22ebf25

[Jacknm2]

SuperL0rtie님이 먼저 게시:

That's the stats that I have while playing the game btw

https://gyazo.com/4b03ae05c6b98eff0175c593a22ebf25

Thats a feck tonne of scenery and i think ill get similar results if i test it.

Your using roughly half your Vram and your system ram is only at 5.2GB out of your 7.9GB total (thats roughly how Win 10 would see it after reserving some, if your on Win 10). Your CPU is only at 70% usage which is high but its there to be used, if it was at 100% constant id be worried lol.

Im guessing your running air cooled as am i with my after market heatsink i get around those temps as well, slightly higher to about 80 deg C as i have ny CPU overclocked to 4.5GHz at the moment.

I dont think its down to your system. I know ive tried my park at 1080p and i only gained 2 - 5 FPS by doing so which beggers belief lol as in most other games doing this would usually double my FPS. It makes me think there is some kind of hard fix in olace to limit FPS when more objects are placed.

I just thinks its down to the game, the engine and assets and optimisation. I expect more optimisation to come. But it does make me scratch my head, id probably have to learn programming to understand whats going on lol.

[SuperL0rtie]

Jacknm2님이 먼저 게시:

SuperL0rtie님이 먼저 게시:

That's the stats that I have while playing the game btw

https://gyazo.com/4b03ae05c6b98eff0175c593a22ebf25

Thats a feck tonne of scenery and i think ill get similar results if i test it.

Your using roughly half your Vram and your system ram is only at 5.2GB out of your 7.9GB total (thats roughly how Win 10 would see it after reserving some, if your on Win 10). Your CPU is only at 70% usage which is high but its there to be used, if it was at 100% constant id be worried lol.

Im guessing your running air cooled as am i with my after market heatsink i get around those temps as well, slightly higher to about 80 deg C as i have ny CPU overclocked to 4.5GHz at the moment.

I dont think its down to your system. I know ive tried my park at 1080p and i only gained 2 - 5 FPS by doing so which beggers belief lol as in most other games doing this would usually double my FPS. It makes me think there is some kind of hard fix in olace to limit FPS when more objects are placed.

I just thinks its down to the game, the engine and assets and optimisation. I expect more optimisation to come. But it does make me scratch my head, id probably have to learn programming to understand whats going on lol.

I told you I got a lot of scenery lol!

Yeah I am running air cooler as well.

Okay so it's just the game because I put too much scenery, got it!

Note for my next park: not putting as much scenery haha

[Jacknm2]

Yea same for me lol it is a shame because its a great game and adding the scenery makes it feel more like a real park.

Try testinf your ridecam and see what FPS you get during that.

I can live with 20 - 30 fps as an average with occasional dips. But if you average 15 - 20 FPS it makes it s rather lack luster experience.

For the moment, limit the guest count to 5k, and keep scenery around wueues and tracks/rides only. Add the tree here and there and see if it improves. Also as i said try reducing shadows and ambient occlusion. It should help.

If you havent tried the driver rollback give it a shot as a last ditch effort, if you have and there is no change id go back to the latest drivers so long as you find them stable.

[SuperL0rtie]

Yeah I will try a driver rollback because I do have dual monitor as well (just like you said that it improved for you.)

just tell me your performance on the map when you'll get a chance to test it :)

[Jacknm2]

SuperL0rtie님이 먼저 게시:

Yeah I will try a driver rollback because I do have dual monitor as well (just like you said that it improved for you.)

just tell me your performance on the map when you'll get a chance to test it :)

I will tomorrow afternoon. Well today infact as its 2am and i have to be up and out on the way to work at 6.30am...♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lol.

But ill test at 2160p and 1080p for you.

[SuperL0rtie]

Awesome!

[VerboseLamp]

Jacknm2님이 먼저 게시:

The Relentless님이 먼저 게시:

advise : upgrade your desktop

No. NO NO NO. Please do not give advise like this when you have no idea what you're talking about. You're telling someone with a high-end enthusiast level gaming system that their only recourse is to spend hundreds of dollars on a hardware upgrade that will almost certainly NOT fix the problem you're describing.

This is very likely a hardware utilization / engine optimization issue, as several other users have recently reported similar performance issues when running into parks of this size, even when running similarly beefy hardware.

In response to the original poster's main question, no, more RAM isn't likely to help either. System RAM rarely has any kind of significant impact on your actual framerate. Having additional RAM yields no tangible performance benefits until you reach the point that you're running out. At that point, your system is forced to cache the contents from memory (write it to your drive) to free up space. Since these drives are dramatically slower than RAM, this can lead to performance hiccups like stuttering or longer loading times. But it will basically never affect your stable number of frames per second unless you are having to swap the cache constantly, and from the testing above it doesn't look like this is the case.

The problem you describe isn't that it periodically locks up or slows down, but that you have consistently bad performance after your park reaches a certain level of complexity. So save your money and wait for what will hopefully come as a fix from the devs.

[TsarIvan]

Hi. My laptop has i7 5500 2.4ghz with 4gb RAM, the VGA is GeForce 840M. Currently i play only campaign with less than 2000 peeps and medium settings. Few days ago i load some workshop park, a disneyland inspired park with tons of scenery, 0 peeps and the fps dropped significantly unless i set the graphics to lowest.
If i upgrade my RAM to 12GB, will it raise the FPS significantly? With utra setting, or at least high.

[TsarIvan]

Tyril132님이 먼저 게시:

Jacknm2님이 먼저 게시:

No. NO NO NO. Please do not give advise like this when you have no idea what you're talking about. You're telling someone with a high-end enthusiast level gaming system that their only recourse is to spend hundreds of dollars on a hardware upgrade that will almost certainly NOT fix the problem you're describing.

This is very likely a hardware utilization / engine optimization issue, as several other users have recently reported similar performance issues when running into parks of this size, even when running similarly beefy hardware.

In response to the original poster's main question, no, more RAM isn't likely to help either. System RAM rarely has any kind of significant impact on your actual framerate. Having additional RAM yields no tangible performance benefits until you reach the point that you're running out. At that point, your system is forced to cache the contents from memory (write it to your drive) to free up space. Since these drives are dramatically slower than RAM, this can lead to performance hiccups like stuttering or longer loading times. But it will basically never affect your stable number of frames per second unless you are having to swap the cache constantly, and from the testing above it doesn't look like this is the case.

The problem you describe isn't that it periodically locks up or slows down, but that you have consistently bad performance after your park reaches a certain level of complexity. So save your money and wait for what will hopefully come as a fix from the devs.

It kinda answers my question. So, i guess its no use upgrading my RAM eh