Windows only? No buy!

[Mimamau]

No Linux, Mac and SteamOS support?

[Will]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Harbinger:

Nope, the reason is Apple can't be bothered updating OpenGL beyond the 6 year old version that comes bundled on macOS and instead of lobbying Apple to do something about it Mac users waste their time blaming developers for a situation outside their control.

Ever heard of Metal?
If you haven't, it's like Vulkan or DirectX 12 but Apple developed it first way before either of those two. In fact it's the reason everybody suddenly jumped on the low overhead API hype train.

It's so hilarious how ignorant your average "PC master race" kid is.

[Telvis]

Who will play games on Mac? No one! If u are gamer...windows is the beat choice!

[DeBunkeD]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Will:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Harbinger:

Nope, the reason is Apple can't be bothered updating OpenGL beyond the 6 year old version that comes bundled on macOS and instead of lobbying Apple to do something about it Mac users waste their time blaming developers for a situation outside their control.

Ever heard of Metal?
If you haven't, it's like Vulkan or DirectX 12 but Apple developed it first way before either of those two. In fact it's the reason everybody suddenly jumped on the low overhead API hype train.

It's so hilarious how ignorant your average "PC master race" kid is.

Metal is an API for mobile gaming, not full blown computer games... Also, Mantle (AMD's low overhead API) had been regularly implemented in 2013 (a year before Metal was first introduced in iOS 8).

I love how you're calling out someone on their ignorance yet have no clue what you're talking about yourself.

[BLÀde]

LOL BURN

[Pixus]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Liroku:

OSX doesn't use DirectX, it's a Microsoft Proprietary Software. If you want a game on OSX you'll be using Vulkan/OpenGL or Apple's Metal. Most likely you would go with OpenGL as it works with linux as well. The only way to get DX working on OSX AFAIK is using WINE or something along those lines, but if you are going through all of that trouble just to get significantly worse game performance, or have the game not work at all, you may as well dual boot a windows install for gaming.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Will:

Please, no version of directX exists for OSX, no OSX games run on DirectX, that's not the reason.

Aplogies, couldn't remember whatit was.

[Will]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von DeBunkeD:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Will:

Ever heard of Metal?
If you haven't, it's like Vulkan or DirectX 12 but Apple developed it first way before either of those two. In fact it's the reason everybody suddenly jumped on the low overhead API hype train.

It's so hilarious how ignorant your average "PC master race" kid is.

Metal is an API for mobile gaming, not full blown computer games... Also, Mantle (AMD's low overhead API) had been regularly implemented in 2013 (a year before Metal was first introduced in iOS 8).

I love how you're calling out someone on their ignorance yet have no clue what you're talking about yourself.

You didn't know metal works on OSX? oh boy....
And by "regularly" you mean exactly 2 games?

[McDread]

So will this run on a big mac?

[mmppolton]

Or do what I did which I'd get a one of thods provided that have cloud gaming PC where you stream the desktop to your PC it work quite welltill I get my PC

[Steve]

macs sadly do not have the gpu grunt to run games like this. Apple's fault, not Frontier.

[Jacknm2]

Ive never understood why people will pay more money for less performance...

I mean i understand that people may prefer OSX, but why pay stupid money for an inferior product?

Build a PC get OSX and a find a cheap copy of windows 7 or 8.1 and dual boot. Doing all that will net you a better performance PC with superior cooling and a longer lifespan and 2 OS's, even after paying through the nose for 2 operating systems and building the PC it will still be cheaper than buying an apple product.

[Will]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jacknm2:

Ive never understood why people will pay more money for less performance...

I mean i understand that people may prefer OSX, but why pay stupid money for an inferior product?

Build a PC get OSX and a find a cheap copy of windows 7 or 8.1 and dual boot. Doing all that will net you a better performance PC with superior cooling and a longer lifespan and 2 OS's, even after paying through the nose for 2 operating systems and building the PC it will still be cheaper than buying an apple product.

Because sometimes it's not about performance. Also, Macs just don't focus on gaming performance, they still have great performance otherwise, if you don't game why the ♥♥♥♥ would you care about gaming performance?

I'm gonna give you a very simple example, I have a MacBook Pro for school work, I use it to read, white and research, why the ♥♥♥♥ do I need a GTX980M in there? Why not use integrated graphics which is plenty fast enough for what I do, but I also get 10 hour battery life instead of 3?

And also no I'm not paying more for an inferiour product, it's about the right price. There is no other laptop that has similar features for significantly less amount of money. And by features I don't mean specs, some of them are specs but not all:
- all metal build, no flimsy plastic
- roughly the same dimensions
- all PCI-E NVME SSD, no cheap SATA drives.
- backlit keyboard
- 10 hour actual battery life, not advertised battery life
- high resolution IPS display, and I mena higher than 1080p, sRGB calibrated.
- large trackpad, honestly no windows laptop has such good trackpad, but I'll accept big and responsive, or touchscreen.
- zero fan noise doing productivity work

I mean even if you had all of those, no Windows laptop has as good looking interiours or as good an OS for work, but I'll let that go, just find me a laptop with all of those features, and is also more than 10% cheaper than any of the Macbooks. Maybe I'll consider it when I decide to upgrade.

Before you ask, yes I also built my own desktop gaming PC with fully custom water cooling loop so I kinda know what those are. And yes it's way cheaper than an equivalent Mac Pro but again, you're missing the point, it's not about specs.

[BLÀde]

macs are going to way of beta. the only reason apple is still alive is because of their ♥♥♥♥♥♥ iphones selling due to Conformity ONLY :P

[Jacknm2]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Will:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jacknm2:

Ive never understood why people will pay more money for less performance...

I mean i understand that people may prefer OSX, but why pay stupid money for an inferior product?

Build a PC get OSX and a find a cheap copy of windows 7 or 8.1 and dual boot. Doing all that will net you a better performance PC with superior cooling and a longer lifespan and 2 OS's, even after paying through the nose for 2 operating systems and building the PC it will still be cheaper than buying an apple product.

Because sometimes it's not about performance. Also, Macs just don't focus on gaming performance, they still have great performance otherwise, if you don't game why the ♥♥♥♥ would you care about gaming performance?

I'm gonna give you a very simple example, I have a MacBook Pro for school work, I use it to read, white and research, why the ♥♥♥♥ do I need a GTX980M in there? Why not use integrated graphics which is plenty fast enough for what I do, but I also get 10 hour battery life instead of 3?

And also no I'm not paying more for an inferiour product, it's about the right price. There is no other laptop that has similar features for significantly less amount of money. And by features I don't mean specs, some of them are specs but not all:
- all metal build, no flimsy plastic
- roughly the same dimensions
- all PCI-E NVME SSD, no cheap SATA drives.
- backlit keyboard
- 10 hour actual battery life, not advertised battery life
- high resolution IPS display, and I mena higher than 1080p, sRGB calibrated.
- large trackpad, honestly no windows laptop has such good trackpad, but I'll accept big and responsive, or touchscreen.
- zero fan noise doing productivity work

I mean even if you had all of those, no Windows laptop has as good looking interiours or as good an OS for work, but I'll let that go, just find me a laptop with all of those features, and is also more than 10% cheaper than any of the Macbooks. Maybe I'll consider it when I decide to upgrade.

Before you ask, yes I also built my own desktop gaming PC with fully custom water cooling loop so I kinda know what those are. And yes it's way cheaper than an equivalent Mac Pro but again, you're missing the point, it's not about specs.

Perhaps this is my fault for not stating for gaming uses. Im specifically mentioning this for retina displays and such that use 970ms and R9 290s etc...

For gaming purposes. I understand why people would choose a mac book pro for work, ive had this argument before and seen the benefits.

We are talking specifically for gaming here. Why would any one for a primary purpose buy a mac etc etc as i mention above.

[Will]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jacknm2:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Will:

Because sometimes it's not about performance. Also, Macs just don't focus on gaming performance, they still have great performance otherwise, if you don't game why the ♥♥♥♥ would you care about gaming performance?

I'm gonna give you a very simple example, I have a MacBook Pro for school work, I use it to read, white and research, why the ♥♥♥♥ do I need a GTX980M in there? Why not use integrated graphics which is plenty fast enough for what I do, but I also get 10 hour battery life instead of 3?

And also no I'm not paying more for an inferiour product, it's about the right price. There is no other laptop that has similar features for significantly less amount of money. And by features I don't mean specs, some of them are specs but not all:
- all metal build, no flimsy plastic
- roughly the same dimensions
- all PCI-E NVME SSD, no cheap SATA drives.
- backlit keyboard
- 10 hour actual battery life, not advertised battery life
- high resolution IPS display, and I mena higher than 1080p, sRGB calibrated.
- large trackpad, honestly no windows laptop has such good trackpad, but I'll accept big and responsive, or touchscreen.
- zero fan noise doing productivity work

I mean even if you had all of those, no Windows laptop has as good looking interiours or as good an OS for work, but I'll let that go, just find me a laptop with all of those features, and is also more than 10% cheaper than any of the Macbooks. Maybe I'll consider it when I decide to upgrade.

Before you ask, yes I also built my own desktop gaming PC with fully custom water cooling loop so I kinda know what those are. And yes it's way cheaper than an equivalent Mac Pro but again, you're missing the point, it's not about specs.

Perhaps this is my fault for not stating for gaming uses. Im specifically mentioning this for retina displays and such that use 970ms and R9 290s etc...

For gaming purposes. I understand why people would choose a mac book pro for work, ive had this argument before and seen the benefits.

We are talking specifically for gaming here. Why would any one for a primary purpose buy a mac etc etc as i mention above.

Maybe OP just happens to have a Mac for other purposes but also wants to play the game? Or maybe he's just retarded and bought a mac for gaming....

[Jacknm2]

In which case they need to understand that their mac wont be very versitile in terms of gaming and not that powerful either. You make the comprimise in both situations.

I'm not a fan of laptop gaming either, but i dont constantly travel and i cant exactly game at work either, plus i work in an engineering environment so having a cheap plastic laptop is preferable to something more expensive that cannot be serviced/repaired by myself lol