Stop immigration option and no build zones

[Drinjanin]

Those of us who enjoy sandbox mode prefer building beautiful and functional cities, rather than dealing with constant waves of foreign emigrants, which add more pressure on city planning. I would like to see the option to completely stop people from coming in into the island, once we reach desired pipulation numbers, so we can manage domestic population of native tropicans and emigrants who already integrated on the island. That way players will have the option to build city, and not worry much about the incoming population waves, with people living in shacks.

Another great thing would be if players had the ability to mark the "no construction zones" on the map. That way we could prevent people from building the ugly shacks on the green/forest terrain, if we decide to keep a part of the forest as a natural beauty areas, rather than building parks (beauty objects) with framed trees surrounded by benches and concrete.

[Drinjanin]

Originally posted by Deuce:

Ok, I learnt a lot and I get why you like over steam. Some of those benefits are pretty decent for sure. Personally if I really want a game I'll buy it wherever I can, but I will check out gog in future to see if same game is on there.

Well, you asked.

[UP100]

Originally posted by Drinjanin:

1. Gog doesn't have mandatory program laucher. Gog games can be run directly via executable DRM-free installed files, or via its launcher, known as Gog Galaxy.

This is the decision of the game's maker if they allow you to play a game without having steam.

Originally posted by Drinjanin:

3. Gog Galaxy doesn't force password protection, but it is available, nor it pushes for two-step authenticator. That way if you are unable to use the phone, like I was few days ago, since my phone was at service, I was unable to access my Steam account for two days.

You can disable mobile authenticator and it's not needed to acces your steam account.

Originally posted by Drinjanin:

4. Additional security confirmation is a four digits code, which is always being sent on the registered account's e-mail. The code is required in two instances:

a) while logging in via internet browser after cleaning up the cookies, or logging in from a different IP address.

Steam does this as well though?

Originally posted by Drinjanin:

5. Gog games can be installed on an unlimited number of PCs. If the game supports the lan co-op, multiplayer will be available on all PCs, if the version of the game is identical. Only one active copy can access online multiplayer at the time.

This also depends on the developer do they allow you to launch the game without having steam open.

Originally posted by Drinjanin:

6. Gog games do not require internet connection in order to work during or after the installation. Some games do offer multiplayer features, but require creation of their respective native account. For example: Master Of Orion, Torchlight II, Titan Quest - Anniversary Edition require registration of their native accounts. Those native accounts enable users to cross-play with Steam users.

Steam does not require you to have an internet access to play your games as far as I know

Originally posted by Drinjanin:

7. Over the years people have reported that some games available on both Gog and Steam run with the difference of around 10 FPS more on Gog, like The Witcher III. Because of the DRM-free nature of Gog.

The implementation of the DRM is the decision of the developer once again. Also "over the years" is really vague.

Originally posted by Drinjanin:

9. Gog has 30 days refund policy. It can be used only if the game refuses to run, or has game-breaking bugs, and Gog staff is unable to offer advices on how to fix it/them. Abusing this refund policy for the benefit of getting ridded of the games which the customer doesn't like will result in Gog support losing trust in user, and will deny the user of the future refunds. Constant use of refunds might result in denying user the future refunds. This is due to the nature of communication with the real people from the support.

Steam allows a 14 day refund policy from the point when the game is available (with pre-orders, the release date). Steam allows you to refund a game for any reason, but abusing this sytem will get the refund declined.

Originally posted by Drinjanin:

10. Gog has "no questions asked" refund policy for the early-access games. If the user doesn't like the early-access game, or has issues with it, he/she can ask for the refund 14 days after the purchase, without stating the reasons for the refund.

Steam does this with any game.

Originally posted by Drinjanin:

11. Gog games are usually cheaper compared to Steam.

This may be due to regional pricing.

Originally posted by Drinjanin:

12. All prices are region based. If the publisher does not set the regional prices, Gog will issue wallet funds to offset the regional differences, which can be used for the future purchases. Gog accepts euros and US dollars as payment currencies.

Prices are region based. The price will be different in different regions.

[Drinjanin]

I see you have missed my point here, Steamboy. After I correct you, I will write down the obvious thing why I wrote this.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

This is the decision of the game's maker if they allow you to play a game without having steam.

This sentence has no meaning.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

You can disable mobile authenticator and it's not needed to acces your steam account.

By disabling the mobile authenticator trade holds last 15 days. It was done to force people to use it.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

Steam does this as well though?

Only if one has not activated mobile authenticator.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

This also depends on the developer do they allow you to launch the game without having steam open.

That is called DRM-free content.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

Steam does not require you to have an internet access to play your games as far as I know

But you don't know.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

The implementation of the DRM is the decision of the developer once again. Also "over the years" is really vague.

I was reffering to DRM-free platform, Captain Obvious.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

Steam allows a 14 day refund policy from the point when the game is available (with pre-orders, the release date). Steam allows you to refund a game for any reason, but abusing this sytem will get the refund declined.

There are other conditions involved. What you wrote is semi-truth, or half-lie if you wish.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

Steam does this with any game.

Another semi-truth, or half-lie.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

This may be due to regional pricing.

It is not "maybe", it is the reason indeed.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

Prices are region based. The price will be different in different regions.

Lie. Lots of Steam games are still not regionally priced. Specially when they launch.

All in all, the guy asked me what is Gog like, so I answered. :-) This was about Gog, not comparison with Steam, fanboy. :-)
Anyway, Gog is overall a better retailer.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by Drinjanin:

Originally posted by Vaneri:

This is the decision of the game's maker if they allow you to play a game without having steam.

This sentence has no meaning.

It actually does have meaning. Steam is not automatically mandatory for playing all games sold through steam. This is an optional setting that is purely up to the developer.

GOG lacks this option, but steam can be set as not a requirement

Originally posted by Vaneri:

You can disable mobile authenticator and it's not needed to acces your steam account.

By disabling the mobile authenticator trade holds last 15 days. It was done to force people to use it.

Just a question: but does GOG even have levels and trading cards? If not then it's lack of a mobile authenticator is somewhat meaningless. I've never used steams mobile authenticator and never felt pressured into doing so, it exists as an option to protect certain trading deals you can perform through steam that don't even exist in GOG that I'm aware of

Originally posted by Vaneri:

This also depends on the developer do they allow you to launch the game without having steam open.

That is called DRM-free content.

So what? It's still an option

Originally posted by Vaneri:

Steam does not require you to have an internet access to play your games as far as I know

But you don't know.

And you can know in seconds, it's a game by game setting as set by the developer not steam. I spent years buying games on steam and then playing offline without being connected online, still do from time to time

Originally posted by Vaneri:

Steam allows a 14 day refund policy from the point when the game is available (with pre-orders, the release date). Steam allows you to refund a game for any reason, but abusing this sytem will get the refund declined.

There are other conditions involved. What you wrote is semi-truth, or half-lie if you wish.

Actually you can go look this up pretty easily the refund system for steam does not require any valid reasons at all if within the set time frame:

2 hours of play OR 2 weeks of ownership, within those time limits you can refund on steam for any reason at all, no questions asked

Outside the boundary of the 2 hours play OR 2 weeks owned refund requests can still be attempted but are reviewed by humans and decided on a case by case basis, if you've played more than 2 hours or owned for more than 2 weeks you'll need to have a valid reason and be able to convince a customer service rep of why your case is special.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

Steam does this with any game.

Another semi-truth, or half-lie.

Not really a lie, you can look up steams policy yourself

Originally posted by Vaneri:

Prices are region based. The price will be different in different regions.

Lie. Lots of Steam games are still not regionally priced. Specially when they launch.

Again that's a developer issue, they have to set the region pricing

You seem to blame steam for a lot of issues that are developer decisions and the majority of what you praise GOG for are options on steam that the developers have the freedom to use, or not

GOG's lack of those options is why many developers don't bother to release there, or delay release there until piracy concerns dwindle (months or years after release)

[Drinjanin]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

It actually does have meaning. Steam is not automatically mandatory for playing all games sold through steam. This is an optional setting that is purely up to the developer.

Your sentence was vague, and now you have confirmed it with this Captain Obvious reply.

Originally posted by Kunovega:

GOG lacks this option, but steam can be set as not a requirement

You are trolling now.

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Just a question: but does GOG even have levels and trading cards? If not then it's lack of a mobile authenticator is somewhat meaningless. I've never used steams mobile authenticator and never felt pressured into doing so, it exists as an option to protect certain trading deals you can perform through steam that don't even exist in GOG that I'm aware of

Mobile authenticator is mandatory for all who want to use all basic Steam features. Trade is one of those options. Stop trolling.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

So what? It's still an option

Option? Option for what? You talk nonsense. What a troll.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

And you can know in seconds, it's a game by game setting as set by the developer not steam. I spent years buying games on steam and then playing offline without being connected online, still do from time to time

Nobody cares what you do. Nobody asked you what you do.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

Actually you can go look this up pretty easily the refund system for steam does not require any valid reasons at all if within the set time frame:

2 hours of play OR 2 weeks of ownership, within those time limits you can refund on steam for any reason at all, no questions asked

Outside the boundary of the 2 hours play OR 2 weeks owned refund requests can still be attempted but are reviewed by humans and decided on a case by case basis, if you've played more than 2 hours or owned for more than 2 weeks you'll need to have a valid reason and be able to convince a customer service rep of why your case is special.

Two hours of playtime and the refund becomes void. Playing for unlimited time during a month still grants you a refund on Gog if the game has issues. Gog wins, obviously.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

Not really a lie, you can look up steams policy yourself

I said it is a half-lie, not a lie. You go, check it out, and stop trolling.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

Again that's a developer issue, they have to set the region pricing

Publishers set the price, not developers. Developers only do if they are publishers at the same time as well.

Originally posted by Kunovega:

You seem to blame steam for a lot of issues that are developer decisions and the majority of what you praise GOG for are options on steam that the developers have the freedom to use, or not

GOG's lack of those options is why many developers don't bother to release there, or delay release there until piracy concerns dwindle (months or years after release)

I do not blame Steam for anyhting. I did not mention Steam. I answered the question about what is Gog like. The differences are huge. Overall, Gog is way more user-friendly than Steam. I am talking from perspective of the customer, not from the perspective of the developer. You have purposely changed the context of what I originally wrote.

Stop this trolling, disinformations and the thread derail. Nobody asked for your biased opinion and trolling. :-)

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by Drinjanin:

Originally posted by Kunovega:

It actually does have meaning. Steam is not automatically mandatory for playing all games sold through steam. This is an optional setting that is purely up to the developer.

Your sentence was vague, and now you have confirmed it with this Captain Obvious reply.

It wasn't "my sentence", you're now confusing two different people in conversation. That you would believe it was vague just leads me to believe English is not your primary language, if that's the case: I'm sorry that we're confusing you.

But it's simple reality that there was nothing vague about it.

Originally posted by Kunovega:

GOG lacks this option, but steam can be set as not a requirement

You are trolling now.

How is this trolling?

You obviously are not aware of the options available when releasing games so you assume that anyone pointing out what you don't know must be a troll.

Steam has the option for developers to release either method, this is fact no matter how much you protest. That the majority of developers choose to use steam protections does not change the availability of this option.

GOG does not have this option, GOG is mandatory to release without those protections: which is a factual reason why many games are either not released to GOG or are released at a much later time (because the developers WANT the protection provided by steam during their launch window that GOG does not even optionally provide)

If you think I'm trolling you've failed entirely to understand the purview of what's available to both platforms.

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Just a question: but does GOG even have levels and trading cards? If not then it's lack of a mobile authenticator is somewhat meaningless. I've never used steams mobile authenticator and never felt pressured into doing so, it exists as an option to protect certain trading deals you can perform through steam that don't even exist in GOG that I'm aware of

Mobile authenticator is mandatory for all who want to use all basic Steam features. Trade is one of those options. Stop trolling.

I would suggest you do some research before accusing people of trolling, a simple reality check would teach you that the steam mobile authenticator is not mandatory for any basic steam features other than trading.

I haven't used a mobile authentication in two decades of using steam and there's nothing blocked or restricted from me aside from the trading delay. That's it. Mobile authentication is an optional tier of protection for your steam account (that GOG does not even have as an option), but it is not mandatory no matter how much you protest.

You are simply uninformed on this topic.

I don't personally trade enough to care about trade delays so I don't use the mobile authentication, and there is no mandatory need for it anywhere else in steam. (though as stated you may optionally use it for other areas as a second tier of account protection)

You keep confusing options with mandatory

Originally posted by Vaneri:

So what? It's still an option

Option? Option for what? You talk nonsense. What a troll.

You don't know enough about the subject you are talking about to keep throwing that word around

Originally posted by Vaneri:

And you can know in seconds, it's a game by game setting as set by the developer not steam. I spent years buying games on steam and then playing offline without being connected online, still do from time to time

Nobody cares what you do. Nobody asked you what you do.

Wasn't really the point, I was just correcting your incorrect information

Originally posted by Vaneri:

Actually you can go look this up pretty easily the refund system for steam does not require any valid reasons at all if within the set time frame:

2 hours of play OR 2 weeks of ownership, within those time limits you can refund on steam for any reason at all, no questions asked

Outside the boundary of the 2 hours play OR 2 weeks owned refund requests can still be attempted but are reviewed by humans and decided on a case by case basis, if you've played more than 2 hours or owned for more than 2 weeks you'll need to have a valid reason and be able to convince a customer service rep of why your case is special.

Two hours of playtime and the refund becomes void. Playing for unlimited time during a month still grants you a refund on Gog if the game has issues. Gog wins, obviously.

And that sounds like a great way to scam developers and then you wonder why they release late on GOG or not at all

Originally posted by Vaneri:

Not really a lie, you can look up steams policy yourself

I said it is a half-lie, not a lie. You go, check it out, and stop trolling.

I have checked it out and you continue to misquote the system. Some of us actually use steam and have used the refund system, you clearly have not.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

Again that's a developer issue, they have to set the region pricing

Publishers set the price, not developers. Developers only do if they are publishers at the same time as well.

Originally posted by Kunovega:

You seem to blame steam for a lot of issues that are developer decisions and the majority of what you praise GOG for are options on steam that the developers have the freedom to use, or not

GOG's lack of those options is why many developers don't bother to release there, or delay release there until piracy concerns dwindle (months or years after release)

I do not blame Steam for anyhting. I did not mention Steam. I answered the question about what is Gog like. The differences are huge. Overall, Gog is way more user-friendly than Steam. I am talking from perspective of the customer, not from the perspective of the developer. You have purposely changed the context of what I originally wrote.

Stop this trolling, disinformations and the thread derail. Nobody asked for your biased opinion and trolling. :-)

the biggest bias opinion here so far is you, you clearly don't understand the difference between options and mandatory and you refuse to do the basic research that would prove you wrong. Instead you are far too quick to cry troll when your mistakes are pointed out for you.

If you prefer to remain ignorant that's your choice.

Bottom line the things you praise GOG for are all options in steam, and you refuse to acknowledge options within Steam that are not present in GOG which make it potentially safer for developers and account protection

[Drinjanin]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

How is this trolling?

You obviously are not aware of the options available when releasing games so you assume that anyone pointing out what you don't know must be a troll.

Steam has the option for developers to release either method, this is fact no matter how much you protest. That the majority of developers choose to use steam protections does not change the availability of this option.

GOG does not have this option, GOG is mandatory to release without those protections: which is a factual reason why many games are either not released to GOG or are released at a much later time (because the developers WANT the protection provided by steam during their launch window that GOG does not even optionally provide)

If you think I'm trolling you've failed entirely to understand the purview of what's available to both platforms.

My whole point was explaining what Gog is about. I did not ask you for your opinion, I was talking to the other guy. You are talking from the point of view of the developer, I am down to earth talking about the only point that matters to us who play video games - customer's point of view. Cut off your circle-jerking already.

Originally posted by Kunovega:

I would suggest you do some research before accusing people of trolling, a simple reality check would teach you that the steam mobile authenticator is not mandatory for any basic steam features other than trading.

I haven't used a mobile authentication in two decades of using steam and there's nothing blocked or restricted from me aside from the trading delay. That's it. Mobile authentication is an optional tier of protection for your steam account (that GOG does not even have as an option), but it is not mandatory no matter how much you protest.

You are simply uninformed on this topic.

I don't personally trade enough to care about trade delays so I don't use the mobile authentication, and there is no mandatory need for it anywhere else in steam. (though as stated you may optionally use it for other areas as a second tier of account protection)

You keep confusing options with mandatory

None of this crap won't change the fact that I was locked out of my account for two days, while my phone was on service. You talk nonsense.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

Wasn't really the point, I was just correcting your incorrect information

You only troll and spread semi-truths, or half-lies. You did not correct me at anyhting, but continued trolling.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

And that sounds like a great way to scam developers and then you wonder why they release late on GOG or not at all

Gog support takes care of that. Do you have any data how many developers got scammed? No, you don't. Let me tell you who gets scammed most of the time - the customers. When the developers cut off features the Steam version of the game has, for example multiplayer. Some developers make it for Steam, but not for Gog. Or when the cross-play between Gog and Steam is not available. That is a scam on developers'/publishers' behalf.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

I have checked it out and you continue to misquote the system. Some of us actually use steam and have used the refund system, you clearly have not.

Now you admit to scamming the developers/publishers.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

the biggest bias opinion here so far is you, you clearly don't understand the difference between options and mandatory and you refuse to do the basic research that would prove you wrong. Instead you are far too quick to cry troll when your mistakes are pointed out for you.

You started fighting the windmills, as none of the crap you brought in here has anyhting to do with what I wrote - answered to the guy's question what features Gog has. You started arguing with me for the sake of arguing.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

If you prefer to remain ignorant that's your choice.

You are the champion in that category.

Originally posted by Vaneri:

Bottom line the things you praise GOG for are all options in steam, and you refuse to acknowledge options within Steam that are not present in GOG which make it potentially safer for developers and account protection

A vague and false statement.

[Kunovega]

It's funny that you don't know how to quote correctly and you've made too many mistakes for me to waste any further time correcting you.

Enjoy your bliss

https://steemkr.com/steemit/@edidiong.edet/ignorance-is-bliss

[Drinjanin]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

It's funny that you don't know how to quote correctly and you've made too many mistakes for me to waste any further time correcting you.

Enjoy your bliss

https://steemkr.com/steemit/@edidiong.edet/ignorance-is-bliss

You finally realized the basic thing - you started the argument without necessity whatsoever. Go act like a smart guy to someone who buys your bullsh.

[Drinjanin]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

It wasn't "my sentence", you're now confusing two different people in conversation. That you would believe it was vague just leads me to believe English is not your primary language, if that's the case: I'm sorry that we're confusing you.

I did not confuse a thing. You both act like programmed robots. The whole discussion felt as if I had a conversation with the same person.

[Skybreaker]

And as this thread becomes a dialogue and more and more off-topic it is closed.
-cheers