[June 2023] Performance & DLC Sharing; The Bus vs. Tourist Bus Sim / Fernbus Sim

[GODSPEED|seven]

Hey Guys/Gals,

Just a quick question for those who own The Bus AND (either or both) Tourist Bus Sim / Fernbus Sim.

- How is the performance in COMPARISON with those?

- Are DLC shared between those games? (I realise these are different 'types' of buses)


Been thinking of giving The Bus a test. I do find Tourist Bus Simulator a little bit of a hit or miss in the performance department. I mean, I don't have a beast of a machine, only Ryzen 5600, RX 6800 & 32GB 3600mhz Ram.

@1440p, I can run Tourist mostly within the 60-120 fps on high.
@4k, different story; it likes to swim in the mid-high 40's at medium settings.

Has there been better optimization of either the quality of the graphics for the same "crappy" performance? or has there been better performance overall?


Thank you for your time and input!

[HAL]

you will need a lot more oompf to run the bus than fernbus. i could run fernbus on my old machine on low/medium graphics but the bus was unplayable. the bus runs fine on my new pc - Intel i7-12700F, 32 ram, rtx 3070 although judging by other posts it's hit/miss with similar specs at the moment

[GODSPEED|seven]

Originally posted by HAL:

you will need a lot more oompf to run the bus than fernbus. i could run fernbus on my old machine on low/medium graphics but the bus was unplayable. the bus runs fine on my new pc - Intel i7-12700F, 32 ram, rtx 3070 although judging by other posts it's hit/miss with similar specs at the moment

I've been told in another post elsewhere that Fernbus got a UE5 update or something. Has that changed anything from the older version?

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/427100?emclan=103582791455585966&emgid=3647400837486504434

...and thank you for taking the time to answer!

[HAL]

i deleted fernbus a while back because i messed up wheel configuration and got frustrated but i will at some stage reinstall to try the update.

[Silent Wolfs Gaming]

Originally posted by GODSPEED|seven:

Hey Guys/Gals,

Just a quick question for those who own The Bus AND (either or both) Tourist Bus Sim / Fernbus Sim.

- How is the performance in COMPARISON with those?

- Are DLC shared between those games? (I realise these are different 'types' of buses)


Been thinking of giving The Bus a test. I do find Tourist Bus Simulator a little bit of a hit or miss in the performance department. I mean, I don't have a beast of a machine, only Ryzen 5600, RX 6800 & 32GB 3600mhz Ram.

@1440p, I can run Tourist mostly within the 60-120 fps on high.
@4k, different story; it likes to swim in the mid-high 40's at medium settings.

Has there been better optimization of either the quality of the graphics for the same "crappy" performance? or has there been better performance overall?


Thank you for your time and input!

Hi,
The performance on all 3 games are good enough if you ask me. I never had any problem with performance on FBS, TBS, and The Bus.

The DLCs are currently shared between FBS and TBS only, but the plan for The Bus is that to be able to use the FBS and TBS DLCs also in The Bus.

About the performance on 4K, and higher Display Settings, I can tell you that, if your PC can't run the game on higher Display Settings as you want the game to run, then you shouldn't play on higher Display Settings than the one which is perfect for yourself. All of the Updates are includes Performance Optimization on FBS, TBS and The Bus either. All 3 of them runs perfectly if you ask me as I said.

This is my opinion only

Best Regards

[Joker1911]

Don't listen to Bobcy, all 3 games are badly optimized, but still Tourist Bus is running best out of all 3 games.

The Bus has really bad performance as soon as you enter the bus because of the mirrors, the only option is to turn them completely off, i don't know how they manage to still get so many positive reviews on steam.
All 3 games need a complete overhaul in the graphics settings department, shadow quality for expample should have 2 separate settings, distance and resolution.
Same with mirrors, instead of having them gradually turn off, the resolution and view distance of mirrors should be changeable...

[Silent Wolfs Gaming]

Originally posted by Joker1911:

Don't listen to Bobcy, all 3 games are badly optimized, but still Tourist Bus is running best out of all 3 games.

The Bus has really bad performance as soon as you enter the bus because of the mirrors, the only option is to turn them completely off, i don't know how they manage to still get so many positive reviews on steam.
All 3 games need a complete overhaul in the graphics settings department, shadow quality for expample should have 2 separate settings, distance and resolution.
Same with mirrors, instead of having them gradually turn off, the resolution and view distance of mirrors should be changeable...

Why not to listen to me? Because I'm saying the truth? Also I said it's only my opinion. Every game's performance is different due to the owner's PC's System Requirement and it's parts like CPU, GPU, RAM, etc. Of course, there can be happen some bad optimization, and that time performance issues can come up, but that's not means the game everytime is fully bad optimized.
But anyway, what I said above is only my opinion, everyone's PC is not having the same GPU, CPU, RAM, and so on parts.

[Joker1911]

Originally posted by Bobcy:

Originally posted by Joker1911:

Don't listen to Bobcy, all 3 games are badly optimized, but still Tourist Bus is running best out of all 3 games.

The Bus has really bad performance as soon as you enter the bus because of the mirrors, the only option is to turn them completely off, i don't know how they manage to still get so many positive reviews on steam.
All 3 games need a complete overhaul in the graphics settings department, shadow quality for expample should have 2 separate settings, distance and resolution.
Same with mirrors, instead of having them gradually turn off, the resolution and view distance of mirrors should be changeable...

Why not to listen to me? Because I'm saying the truth? Also I said it's only my opinion. Every game's performance is different due to the owner's PC's System Requirement and it's parts like CPU, GPU, RAM, etc. Of course, there can be happen some bad optimization, and that time performance issues can come up, but that's not means the game everytime is fully bad optimized.
But anyway, what I said above is only my opinion, everyone's PC is not having the same GPU, CPU, RAM, and so on parts.

How about you list your system specs, so we can see what kind of pc you have.

[J4MESOX4D]

The Bus is by far the least optimised and updates have also caused further performance woes in its time. I think this game was at its most stable when it first released and since then things have been all over the place and it is far less refined that it once was in its basic beginnings.

The big concern is that we are almost two years in and there is no sign of the game reaching a stable state and whilst it is playable on more powerful systems, even then you don't know what future updates are going to do and if the game will feel even worse from a quality standpoint.

I've been here since day one and and to be quite frank, for all the new content added (there's not actually been that much) it's actually gone backward in every technical respect. Only buy into these games when they are finished and proven to be stable to a degree.

[Joker1911]

Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:

The Bus is by far the least optimised and updates have also caused further performance woes in its time. I think this game was at its most stable when it first released and since then things have been all over the place and it is far less refined that it once was in its basic beginnings.

The big concern is that we are almost two years in and there is no sign of the game reaching a stable state and whilst it is playable on more powerful systems, even then you don't know what future updates are going to do and if the game will feel even worse from a quality standpoint.

I've been here since day one and and to be quite frank, for all the new content added (there's not actually been that much) it's actually gone backward in every technical respect. Only buy into these games when they are finished and proven to be stable to a degree.

Yeah, of course people with beefy expensive rigs have good performance but that is not the audience for those games, a low entry point would be perfect but tml is not even listening because they don't know why the engine is performing this way, if they would know these problems would have been fixed long ago, but it is getting worse and worse.

"Just buy a new computer "

[Silent Wolfs Gaming]

Originally posted by Joker1911:

Originally posted by Bobcy:

Why not to listen to me? Because I'm saying the truth? Also I said it's only my opinion. Every game's performance is different due to the owner's PC's System Requirement and it's parts like CPU, GPU, RAM, etc. Of course, there can be happen some bad optimization, and that time performance issues can come up, but that's not means the game everytime is fully bad optimized.
But anyway, what I said above is only my opinion, everyone's PC is not having the same GPU, CPU, RAM, and so on parts.

How about you list your system specs, so we can see what kind of pc you have.

I'm not obligated to share my PC Specs if I don't want to. Also you can't give orders to me to do what.

If the player who wants to play a game, then normally he/she will check the game's System Requirements before purchasing it, and also searching after videos to see how is the performance and optimization.

If your PC can't run the game as smoothly as you want you have several choices you can choose from. For example lowering the Graphics Settings, Upgrading your PC (it can be expensive I know, for me it was expensive also), you can wait for a new Update which optimizes the game (as I said there are bad optimization Updates and there are good optimization Updates), you can get in touch with the devs (currently TML) also if you want to get some help because you're out of the ideas which could help you. If you don't like the game's optimization after all this, then you can ask for refund too and wait some more time and check how is the performance changed.

Developing and Optimizing a game is not that good as all of you think. I started to work on a new game in UE5, so I know how hard it is.

Please, be patient and wait for the Optimization Updates if you don't like the performance or just ask for refund.

[Silent Wolfs Gaming]

Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:

The Bus is by far the least optimised and updates have also caused further performance woes in its time. I think this game was at its most stable when it first released and since then things have been all over the place and it is far less refined that it once was in its basic beginnings.

The big concern is that we are almost two years in and there is no sign of the game reaching a stable state and whilst it is playable on more powerful systems, even then you don't know what future updates are going to do and if the game will feel even worse from a quality standpoint.

I've been here since day one and and to be quite frank, for all the new content added (there's not actually been that much) it's actually gone backward in every technical respect. Only buy into these games when they are finished and proven to be stable to a degree.

Well, as the Graphics Engine (currently Unreal Engine) upgrades, it's also gets new features which can be used by the devs (TML) to improve the game, it's performance and also to give new and better features to it. Unreal Engine 4 wasn't that good before when the game was released on March 25th, 2021. Unreal Engine 5 gives better graphics and physics to the game and also it gives many more and better features that TML can develop and release to the game. As the Graphics Engine upgrades, then the System Requirements will also updates to a higher level.

Also the game was released on a fair price and it's price was increased fairly too. All of the owners of The Bus gets every new features like new buses, new lines, mods, also new features like Multiplayer with Freeplay and Economy Mode, Singleplayer with Freeplay and Economy Mode, etc etc. for free. After the game's price increases the owner don't need to pay the increased price also, it's fair enough I think. The game has got a lots of new features like new buses and lines and many more features which will also be useable in Multiplayer and Economy Mode too.

There's a Stable Phase which is already done long time ago. It's Phase 1. You can revert back to an Update if you want which is the latest Update for Phase 1., but be careful because it doesn't includes that changes which already available for The Bus with the latest Update (Update Phase 2.2)

[Joker1911]

Originally posted by Bobcy:

Originally posted by Joker1911:

How about you list your system specs, so we can see what kind of pc you have.

I'm not obligated to share my PC Specs if I don't want to. Also you can't give orders to me to do what.

If the player who wants to play a game, then normally he/she will check the game's System Requirements before purchasing it, and also searching after videos to see how is the performance and optimization.

If your PC can't run the game as smoothly as you want you have several choices you can choose from. For example lowering the Graphics Settings, Upgrading your PC (it can be expensive I know, for me it was expensive also), you can wait for a new Update which optimizes the game (as I said there are bad optimization Updates and there are good optimization Updates), you can get in touch with the devs (currently TML) also if you want to get some help because you're out of the ideas which could help you. If you don't like the game's optimization after all this, then you can ask for refund too and wait some more time and check how is the performance changed.

Developing and Optimizing a game is not that good as all of you think. I started to work on a new game in UE5, so I know how hard it is. Please, be patient and wait for the Optimization Updates if you don't like the performance or just ask for refund.

No you don't have to do anything but it would be really helpful to know what kind of a pc i need to finally play this without hitches.

Trust me, when i bought this game the game ran allright, my cpu was bad at the time and my gpu was barely utilized, but now the requirements to play this game smoothly skyrocketed.

Yeah turn down the graphics settings to the point where tires from the traffic look like sh*t and i don't have any mirrors, sounds like a good simulator.

Maybe then don't update to an engine that is barely stable like ue5 for a commercial product, they really should have stayed with ue4 and fix all the bugs and ai behaviour.

[Silent Wolfs Gaming]

Originally posted by Joker1911:

Originally posted by Bobcy:

I'm not obligated to share my PC Specs if I don't want to. Also you can't give orders to me to do what.

If the player who wants to play a game, then normally he/she will check the game's System Requirements before purchasing it, and also searching after videos to see how is the performance and optimization.

If your PC can't run the game as smoothly as you want you have several choices you can choose from. For example lowering the Graphics Settings, Upgrading your PC (it can be expensive I know, for me it was expensive also), you can wait for a new Update which optimizes the game (as I said there are bad optimization Updates and there are good optimization Updates), you can get in touch with the devs (currently TML) also if you want to get some help because you're out of the ideas which could help you. If you don't like the game's optimization after all this, then you can ask for refund too and wait some more time and check how is the performance changed.

Developing and Optimizing a game is not that good as all of you think. I started to work on a new game in UE5, so I know how hard it is. Please, be patient and wait for the Optimization Updates if you don't like the performance or just ask for refund.

No you don't have to do anything but it would be really helpful to know what kind of a pc i need to finally play this without hitches.

Trust me, when i bought this game the game ran allright, my cpu was bad at the time and my gpu was barely utilized, but now the requirements to play this game smoothly skyrocketed.

Yeah turn down the graphics settings to the point where tires from the traffic look like sh*t and i don't have any mirrors, sounds like a good simulator.

Maybe then don't update to an engine that is barely stable like ue5 for a commercial product, they really should have stayed with ue4 and fix all the bugs and ai behaviour.

My PC specs are:
Ryzen 5 5600
RTX 2060 12GB VRAM
32GB RAM
Win 10 64-bit

I believe in you, and I remember perfectly that the game was running very smoothly at the beginning. However, the game has got more streets, more buses, more Level and Art Fixes, more objects, more features, more lines, more graphical Updates which updated the System Requirements.

Well, I'm playing on Ultra and I'm having 40-50 FPS, there are Updates which makes some FPS drops and makes the game run with 30 FPS only, but then I'm also waiting for a new Update which fixes this and then my game runs perfectly again.

If they wouldn't Upgrade the Graphics Engine, then we wouldn't be able to have for example the Bus Accessories System, more realistic look of the game (for example if you saw the rain dropping down of the bus stops which wasn't seeable with UE4, it can be seen now with UE5, because UE5 is more realistic than UE4), and also the rain can be seen on the ground when it reaches the ground, and makes that look which wasn't seeable with UE4 it can be seen now with UE5. So, we can thank to TML that we can have the most realistic features and things in The Bus and FBS and TBS (Update soon to be available for TBS).

[Silent Wolfs Gaming]

By the way if you would like to send me a friend request maybe I can help you how to change the Graphics Settings

[Joker1911]

Originally posted by Bobcy:

Originally posted by Joker1911:

No you don't have to do anything but it would be really helpful to know what kind of a pc i need to finally play this without hitches.

Trust me, when i bought this game the game ran allright, my cpu was bad at the time and my gpu was barely utilized, but now the requirements to play this game smoothly skyrocketed.

Yeah turn down the graphics settings to the point where tires from the traffic look like sh*t and i don't have any mirrors, sounds like a good simulator.

Maybe then don't update to an engine that is barely stable like ue5 for a commercial product, they really should have stayed with ue4 and fix all the bugs and ai behaviour.

My PC specs are:
Ryzen 5 5600
RTX 2060 12GB VRAM
32GB RAM
Win 10 64-bit

I believe in you, and I remember perfectly that the game was running very smoothly at the beginning. However, the game has got more streets, more buses, more Level and Art Fixes, more objects, more features, more lines, more graphical Updates which updated the System Requirements.

Well, I'm playing on Ultra and I'm having 40-50 FPS, there are Updates which makes some FPS drops and makes the game run with 30 FPS only, but then I'm also waiting for a new Update which fixes this and then my game runs perfectly again.

If they wouldn't Upgrade the Graphics Engine, then we wouldn't be able to have for example the Bus Accessories System, more realistic look of the game (for example if you saw the rain dropping down of the bus stops which wasn't seeable with UE4, it can be seen now with UE5, because UE5 is more realistic than UE4), and also the rain can be seen on the ground when it reaches the ground, and makes that look which wasn't seeable with UE4 it can be seen now with UE5. So, we can thank to TML that we can have the most realistic features and things in The Bus and FBS and TBS (Update soon to be available for TBS).

My PC specs are:
Ryzen 7 5800x3D
GTX 1080 8GB VRAM
16GB RAM 2133mhz
Win 10 64-bit

According to techpowerup your gpu and mine are not that far apart, so i don't understand why my experience is so bad.

Going back to the last update with ue4 (1.11) also does not help, because the game crashes on the unreal engine 4 logo.

Sure, ue5 looks better, but they could get similiar effects into ue4 if they had the experience to do it, but they clearly can't really handle this engine, i've seen games with ue4 that run great but it is up to the studios to build their own version of this engine for their needs.
Listen, i don't want to talk TML down, i like all three games.