Bethesda Rejected Obsidian made Elder Scrolls game.

[D.e.v.i.OS]

https://youtu.be/E66oZQt3Nl8?feature=shared&t=525
Bethesda your troll skull heads!

is the fact that Fallout NV is still known as the BEST fallout games made to date hurt what little pride you have left in yourself?

[D.e.v.i.OS]

and incase some one salty removed this post it is also in the UNDER MODERATED area on the OG skyrim
https://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/4140563711255648438/

[Insomniac Jack]

I'm not watching that longwinded video...

The only mention I have seen of this were tweets by Chris Avellone, where he states that his offers to make Fallout New Vegas 2 or an Elder Scrolls title were denied by Bathesda. It was merely a suggestion and no work was actually done or conceptualized, so your title is misleading.

Whilst it would be great for us to fans to have more games popping up, you can't really fault a company for wanting to hold onto their own franchise. Also Obsidian, and Chris Avellone in particular, have a different approach to certain facets of game design, which clashes with some of the directions taken by Bethesda.

Anyway, be happy with what you have instead of what you don't.

[Rez Elwin]

Obsidian has been working on their own RPG for awhile now, they would not have taken on another project. Avowed is supposed to come out this year.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2457220/Avowed/

[D.e.v.i.OS]

Originally posted by Rez Elwin:

Obsidian has been working on their own RPG for awhile now, they would not have taken on another project. Avowed is supposed to come out this year.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2457220/Avowed/

THIS WAS THE GAME THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE NEXT ES GAME AT FIRST!!

caps lock for cool sry.
but yeah no, in the video they confirm that.

[Fear2288]

I mean, the IP holder has a right to deny another studio’s “request” to use it.

Plus, the word around the metaphorical campfire was that BGS and Obsidian didn’t quite get on too well with one another during the development of FNV: some inter-studio drama/conflicts, accusations that BGS tried to sabotage Obsidian’s work, and Obsidian using the Creation Engine (and by extension - BGS) as an excuse for any/all technical issues and other negatively received parts of FNV.

Either way, Obsidian is a mediocre studio at best.

Outer Worlds was just a linear Starfield with worse combat, an aesthetic that was a half-hearted “Fallout in space”, terrible UI, and utterly failed in its obvious attempt to replicate the charm and comedy of Firefly.

Avowed looks interesting, and I hope it is, but I’m not getting my hopes up. I especially don’t like that they pivoted and are now saying that it’s not actually open world: you just have access to different “open areas” at given stages of the story.

Lastly, FNV is overrated, and it needs to be said. It was received with a “meh” on release and seen as inferior to FO3 for years. It wasn’t until like 2017-18 that suddenly everyone hopped on this “FNV IS DA BESTEST GAME EVA!!!!!!!!!” wagon.

[Insomniac Jack]

Originally posted by Fear2288:

I mean, the IP holder has a right to deny another studio’s “request” to use it.

Plus, the word around the metaphorical campfire was that BGS and Obsidian didn’t quite get on too well with one another during the development of FNV: some inter-studio drama/conflicts, accusations that BGS tried to sabotage Obsidian’s work, and Obsidian using the Creation Engine (and by extension - BGS) as an excuse for any/all technical issues and other negatively received parts of FNV.

Either way, Obsidian is a mediocre studio at best.

Outer Worlds was just a linear Starfield with worse combat, an aesthetic that was a half-hearted “Fallout in space”, terrible UI, and utterly failed in its obvious attempt to replicate the charm and comedy of Firefly.

Avowed looks interesting, and I hope it is, but I’m not getting my hopes up. I especially don’t like that they pivoted and are now saying that it’s not actually open world: you just have access to different “open areas” at given stages of the story.

Lastly, FNV is overrated, and it needs to be said. It was received with a “meh” on release and seen as inferior to FO3 for years. It wasn’t until like 2017-18 that suddenly everyone hopped on this “FNV IS DA BESTEST GAME EVA!!!!!!!!!” wagon.

Sounds like this metaphorical campfire burns exclusively in your head. At no point in time was there any hostile rivalry between the two companies.

Also New Vegas was well received since it's buggy launch. I find it's fanboys laughably obnoxious as much as the next guy, yet somehow you manage to outshine them with your absolute bs.

[D.e.v.i.OS]

Originally posted by Fear2288:

I mean, the IP holder has a right to deny another studio’s “request” to use it.

This was really all that you said that is 100% factual.
everything is hot dogwater mate

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Rez Elwin:

Obsidian has been working on their own RPG for awhile now, they would not have taken on another project. Avowed is supposed to come out this year.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2457220/Avowed/

Ooh that looks cool, nice to see someone finally trying to fill the elder scrolls void.

[Zero McDol]

Originally posted by Rez Elwin:

Obsidian has been working on their own RPG for awhile now, they would not have taken on another project. Avowed is supposed to come out this year.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2457220/Avowed/

Wishlisted .

Edit:
Honestly, I don't care about the drama; I just want a extra awesome TES-like RPG to play. I'll be sure to buy TES 6 as well.

[Rez Elwin]

Avowed looks cool, I just wish it was taking a note from Bethesda and allowing 3rd person. I tend to play Elder Scrolls in 3rd person unless I am using a bow. While the opposite is true for Fallout, I play in first person unless I am using a melee/unarmed build.

However, I do switch around all the time, for example, traveling around the map, in both games, exclusively 3rd person. Kingdom Come put me off for being on first a first person experience in a primarily melee focused game.

Avowed does seem to have magic and ranged options though, so perhaps if you can use those over melee in most situations I could have fun with it. Regardless I will try it, I have gamepass so I won't be spending anything extra to do to so.

[Fear2288]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

Originally posted by Fear2288:

I mean, the IP holder has a right to deny another studio’s “request” to use it.

This was really all that you said that is 100% factual.
everything is hot dogwater mate

Look up BGS’s contract with Obsidian regarding FNV.

In a nutshell, FNV needed to get an 85 Metacritic score in order to actually make any profit from the game.

They ended up getting an 84.

With no profit, Obsidian had to lay off a bunch of employees and cancel a game code named “North Carolina”. For a bit, it looked like Obsidian would have to close its doors but they managed to stay afloat.

This created bad blood between Obsidian and BGS, and rumors began to circulate that BGS somehow had a hand in the game not hitting 85, along with other candid unsubstantiated claims regarding both studios.

Regardless, that’s nice you hopped on the FNV fellatio train, but the truth is that when it came out not many players thought it was all that great. It wasn’t hated or bashed, but it wasn’t seen as being particularly special. This whole “FALLOUT NEW VEGAS IS THE GOAT AND THE BEST FALLOUT GAME EVER MADE AND JUST TOTALLY SUPER AMAZING AND FLAWLESS” sentiment only emerged years after its release.

[theo]

Originally posted by Fear2288:

This whole “FALLOUT NEW VEGAS IS THE GOAT AND THE BEST FALLOUT GAME EVER MADE AND JUST TOTALLY SUPER AMAZING AND FLAWLESS” sentiment only emerged years after its release.

No it didn't. But back then there were just 2 modern Fallout games so that sentiment obviously was worded a bit differently.
However it was and still is a niche game.

[D.e.v.i.OS]

Originally posted by Fear2288:

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

This was really all that you said that is 100% factual.
everything is hot dogwater mate

Look up BGS’s contract with Obsidian regarding FNV.

In a nutshell, FNV needed to get an 85 Metacritic score in order to actually make any profit from the game.

They ended up getting an 84.

With no profit, Obsidian had to lay off a bunch of employees and cancel a game code named “North Carolina”. For a bit, it looked like Obsidian would have to close its doors but they managed to stay afloat.

This created bad blood between Obsidian and BGS, and rumors began to circulate that BGS somehow had a hand in the game not hitting 85, along with other candid unsubstantiated claims regarding both studios.

Regardless, that’s nice you hopped on the FNV fellatio train, but the truth is that when it came out not many players thought it was all that great. It wasn’t hated or bashed, but it wasn’t seen as being particularly special. This whole “FALLOUT NEW VEGAS IS THE GOAT AND THE BEST FALLOUT GAME EVER MADE AND JUST TOTALLY SUPER AMAZING AND FLAWLESS” sentiment only emerged years after its release.

What ever it is that your smoking just stop...

[SpeedFreak1972]

Sigh let's drag up some history what Bethesda did or didn't do .... nothing that is relevant now

[ShinsFortress]

I am so sorry for the OP.....