The Cursed Tribe won't start

[Ardapel]

I'm trying to initiate the Daedric Quest "The Cursed Tribe." I know how to start it, go to Largashbur and find a giant attacking. But that's not happening, I go there, the giant is not there, the gate is locked unable to be breached, and the stronghold, in fact, appears mostly deserted from the outside. I know I'm not too low in level because I'm almost a lvl 80 character and this quest has a minimum level 9. I've also tried console commands but each command (eg. startquest, setstage, resetquest) I've put in has failed. I've also tried basic fixes like reloading saves or waiting but they have failed too. I believe it may be caused by the USSEP mod but I can't reverse the inhibition by disabling it. I have yet to find any solution to this issue, so if anyone has a solution then please respond ASAP.

[Vlad 254]

Sounds like you tried many of the tried and true suggestions/fixes. Not sure how long you waited tho.

I had something similar happen to me last year. The giant was nowhere to be found and the gate was locked etc. Much like you describe. Drove me nuts as I never had that happen to me before.

So I did the old "go to another cell and wait a week" you can do other quests or whatever. I found out that the USSEP has Largashbur resetting every 10 days so didn't have to wait an ingame week. Anyway, it worked

[Sabaithal]

As an absolute last resort, you can try to use console commands to make it start. I do stress as a LAST RESORT though, because console commands can sometimes ♥♥♥♥ things up royally.

[DrNewcenstein]

There are a few problems which cause this:
-The Giant kills the killable Orcs and hammers the essential ones endlessly
-The Orcs kill the Giant but get stuck on the ladders inside and can't reach their markers to initiate dialog.
-The Giant gets distracted during the fight and leaves, but combat doesn't "end" for the Orcs, which means they don't advance to the dialog.
-You find Atub walking around somewhere far away.
-Ugor and/or Atub got launched on the Skyrim Giant Space Program and got stuck where she landed - mountain top, rock and a hard place, etc.
-Everyone is locked inside the longhouse and can't initiate the scene

Reload a save from before you started tinkering with the console on it.

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

As an absolute last resort, you can try to use console commands to make it start. I do stress as a LAST RESORT though, because console commands can sometimes ♥♥♥♥ things up royally.

OP mentions this in OP

Originally posted by DrNewcenstein:

There are a few problems which cause this:
-The Giant kills the killable Orcs and hammers the essential ones endlessly
-The Orcs kill the Giant but get stuck on the ladders inside and can't reach their markers to initiate dialog.
-The Giant gets distracted during the fight and leaves, but combat doesn't "end" for the Orcs, which means they don't advance to the dialog.
-You find Atub walking around somewhere far away.
-Ugor and/or Atub got launched on the Skyrim Giant Space Program and got stuck where she landed - mountain top, rock and a hard place, etc.
-Everyone is locked inside the longhouse and can't initiate the scene

Reload a save from before you started tinkering with the console on it.

OP mentions this in OP

[Ardapel]

Originally posted by Vlad 254:

Sounds like you tried many of the tried and true suggestions/fixes. Not sure how long you waited tho.

I had something similar happen to me last year. The giant was nowhere to be found and the gate was locked etc. Much like you describe. Drove me nuts as I never had that happen to me before.

So I did the old "go to another cell and wait a week" you can do other quests or whatever. I found out that the USSEP has Largashbur resetting every 10 days so didn't have to wait an ingame week. Anyway, it worked

I have just tried waiting that time with USSEP disabled, completing several quests during that period. I just returned to Largashbur and it's still the same scenario.

Originally posted by DrNewcenstein:

There are a few problems which cause this:
-The Giant kills the killable Orcs and hammers the essential ones endlessly
-The Orcs kill the Giant but get stuck on the ladders inside and can't reach their markers to initiate dialog.
-The Giant gets distracted during the fight and leaves, but combat doesn't "end" for the Orcs, which means they don't advance to the dialog.
-You find Atub walking around somewhere far away.
-Ugor and/or Atub got launched on the Skyrim Giant Space Program and got stuck where she landed - mountain top, rock and a hard place, etc.
-Everyone is locked inside the longhouse and can't initiate the scene

Reload a save from before you started tinkering with the console on it.

I have also been reloading the save beforehand, that never did work before I decided to experiment with the console to force start it. But yes, I managed to exploit an entrance and get in only to find everyone locked in the longhouse, having never came out yet.

[Vlad 254]

Come to think of it I did have that happen to me one other time and never did fix it. Had to skip it and live with it. That said I hope you find a fix.

I just saw in the UESP where it mentions a very similar problem but does not mention a possible fix.

Edit: Not the exact same problem but maybe try the solution:
"Upon arriving at Largashbur, the giant may be attacking but the gate may be closed and locked. Ugor may also have been killed by the giants.
PC Only This bug is fixed by version 1.2.5 of the Unofficial Skyrim Patch.
Workaround: Proceed west from the gate along the stronghold's wall and turn left at the end. You can jump over the wall from the slanted support poles between the wall and the adjacent rocky mountain base. The NPCs will then behave as if the gate had been unlocked. Speak to Atub to initiate the quest. She is usually located atop the guard tower next to the gate."

[Ardapel]

Actually, I just found something else. Along with the Cursed Tribe, I've noticed that "Boethiah's Calling" won't start after reading the book and the cultists are not at the shrine. Additionally, I have not found Meridia's beacon and I cannot interact with her statue to locate the beacon and initiate "The Break of Dawn." I'm gonna submit a support ticket for this and see if I can find a fix.

[Vlad 254]

That is far too many issues in one playthrough. I don't believe I've ever seen that many at one time.

[Rio Turbio]

start a new game as an orc they should let you in from the beginning

[Mr. Monday]

Originally posted by Ardapel:

Actually, I just found something else. Along with the Cursed Tribe, I've noticed that "Boethiah's Calling" won't start after reading the book and the cultists are not at the shrine. Additionally, I have not found Meridia's beacon and I cannot interact with her statue to locate the beacon and initiate "The Break of Dawn." I'm gonna submit a support ticket for this and see if I can find a fix.

If that's the case you'll need to post your load order since it seems you may likely have a mod issue and not an issue with the game.

[Ardapel]

Originally posted by Mr. Monday:

Originally posted by Ardapel:

Actually, I just found something else. Along with the Cursed Tribe, I've noticed that "Boethiah's Calling" won't start after reading the book and the cultists are not at the shrine. Additionally, I have not found Meridia's beacon and I cannot interact with her statue to locate the beacon and initiate "The Break of Dawn." I'm gonna submit a support ticket for this and see if I can find a fix.

If that's the case you'll need to post your load order since it seems you may likely have a mod issue and not an issue with the game.

I've been wondering that, but I already tried disabling almost all mods and it didn't work. But anyways, this is my load order from top to bottom:

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
JaxonzRenamer.esp
UIExtensions.esp
ProudspiremanorTNFBP.esp
GreatWarSkyrim.esp
VHTNFBP.esp
HjerimTNF BP.esp
HoneysideTNF BP.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks&Capes.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Cloaks - USSEP.esp
sl99changeoutfit.esp
rings2hands.esp
TalosHousecarl.esp
StormLord.esp
Rough Leather Armor.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
BHTNFBP.esp
BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp
Shout_Cooldowns_That_Make_Sense.esp
followers keep up.esp
ravengate.esp
My Home Is Your Home.esp
cheat room.esp
CWRepairs.esp
Cloaks&Capes_SMP_Patch.esp
Cloaks_SMP_Patch.esp

[DrNewcenstein]

Originally posted by DrNewcenstein:

There are a few problems which cause this:
-The Giant kills the killable Orcs and hammers the essential ones endlessly
-The Orcs kill the Giant but get stuck on the ladders inside and can't reach their markers to initiate dialog.
-The Giant gets distracted during the fight and leaves, but combat doesn't "end" for the Orcs, which means they don't advance to the dialog.
-You find Atub walking around somewhere far away.
-Ugor and/or Atub got launched on the Skyrim Giant Space Program and got stuck where she landed - mountain top, rock and a hard place, etc.
-Everyone is locked inside the longhouse and can't initiate the scene

Reload a save from before you started tinkering with the console on it.

OP mentions this in OP [/quote]

Nope. See OP below:

Originally posted by Ardapel:

I'm trying to initiate the Daedric Quest "The Cursed Tribe." I know how to start it, go to Largashbur and find a giant attacking. But that's not happening, I go there, the giant is not there, the gate is locked unable to be breached, and the stronghold, in fact, appears mostly deserted from the outside. I know I'm not too low in level because I'm almost a lvl 80 character and this quest has a minimum level 9. I've also tried console commands but each command (eg. startquest, setstage, resetquest) I've put in has failed. I've also tried basic fixes like reloading saves or waiting but they have failed too. I believe it may be caused by the USSEP mod but I can't reverse the inhibition by disabling it. I have yet to find any solution to this issue, so if anyone has a solution then please respond ASAP.

The most likely scenario is that everyone's locked inside the longhouse. Clip through the outer wall, unlock the door to the longhouse.

[Mr. Monday]

Originally posted by Ardapel:

Originally posted by Mr. Monday:

If that's the case you'll need to post your load order since it seems you may likely have a mod issue and not an issue with the game.

I've been wondering that, but I already tried disabling almost all mods and it didn't work...

Some mods leave behind traces of them in saves even if you disable them, so continuing the same save with those disabled mods wouldn't be of much use and could cause additional problems from your save looking for those disabled mods but no longer finding them. If you're going to check if a specific mod is the problem then you'll need to either load a save from before you activated that mod or start a new game.

Personally I thought your game bugged out because you're level 80 and likely triggered the giant attack long ago but never noticed, that is until you mentioned the other problems.

I'm not familiar with most of your mods so I can't help there. The order does at least look correct as far as I can tell though.

[Vlad 254]

yep, see below

Originally posted by DrNewcenstein:

There are a few problems which cause this:
-The Giant kills the killable Orcs and hammers the essential ones endlessly
-The Orcs kill the Giant but get stuck on the ladders inside and can't reach their markers to initiate dialog.
-The Giant gets distracted during the fight and leaves, but combat doesn't "end" for the Orcs, which means they don't advance to the dialog.
-You find Atub walking around somewhere far away.
-Ugor and/or Atub got launched on the Skyrim Giant Space Program and got stuck where she landed - mountain top, rock and a hard place, etc.
-Everyone is locked inside the longhouse and can't initiate the scene

Reload a save from before you started tinkering with the console on it.

Originally posted by Ardapel:

II have also been reloading the save beforehand, that never did work before I decided to experiment with the console to force start it. But yes, I managed to exploit an entrance and get in only to find everyone locked in the longhouse, having never came out yet. [/quote]

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by Mr. Monday:

Originally posted by Ardapel:

I've been wondering that, but I already tried disabling almost all mods and it didn't work...

Some mods leave behind traces of them in saves even if you disable them, so continuing the same save with those disabled mods wouldn't be of much use and could cause additional problems from your save looking for those disabled mods but no longer finding them. If you're going to check if a specific mod is the problem then you'll need to either load a save from before you activated that mod or start a new game.

Personally I thought your game bugged out because you're level 80 and likely triggered the giant attack long ago but never noticed, that is until you mentioned the other problems.

I'm not familiar with most of your mods so I can't help there. The order does at least look correct as far as I can tell though.

Agreed, the mods he's using don't seem to able to cause this problem. Your mention of being level 80 thus possibly triggering the quest earlier seems plausible.

Edit: but then again it's not just that quest.

I would verify integrity of my game files thru Steam. If persists perform a clean vanilla reinstall but the proper way not a simple uninstall reinstall.