The Fate of Paarthurnax

[Messsucher]

So, there is this blades girl who want to kill a magnificent friendly beast, Paarthurnax. She argued the dragon can't be trusted and fears the dragon will be a confirmed betrayer because once betrayed big ass dragon. All this while the chick is betraying dragonborn and assuming roles above dragonborn, giving orders to him and forgetting her oath.

What there is I don't get here? Since the chick will soon be beheaded with the rest of the blades.

[Valden21]

Delphine is...blinkered, at best, where Paarthurnax is concerned. Her hatred of dragons has left her blinded to the fact that technically, the Dragonborn counts as a dragon. She's never spoken to Paarthurnax, so she doesn't see that for the past 5,000 years, Paarthurnax has spent every day battling his most basic draconic nature. Yes, the essence of a dragon is that of a conqueror and destroyer, but Paarthurnax has been fighting against his own nature for all that time. Every day, he has to resist that urge. Every day, he succeeds in doing that. That's why I ignore Delphine when she makes that demand.

[Alex]

All of this "drama" is utter BS. Prior to the events of the MQ, Delphine wasn't even aware that the dragons were an actual problem. She had enough difficulties dodging the Thalmor. But all of a sudden, she became radicalized, berated the Dragonborn like a little kid, shunned the Greybeards and wanted Paarthunax dead? Yeah, there's a reason why people created a number of mods to address the issue.

[Chaosium]

Delphine is an old hag that needs to be Fus Ro Dah'd off a cliff

[ShelLuser]

Originally posted by Chaosium:

Delphine is an old hag that needs to be Fus Ro Dah'd off a cliff

I actually done that while she was out in the courtyard. But unfortunately... she survived her drop into the canyon.

[fmalfeas]

I honestly suspect that Delphine didn't survive the Thalmor purge by being the best Blade. I suspect she survived by sacrificing the others, having a 'my vision is the only one that matters, my opinion is always right' mentality.

The fact that she stole the horn instead of going to High Hrothgar so that she could force the dragonborn to meet her on her terms, her turf?

That's not the behavior of someone reaching out for help, or finding the person their order serves. It's the behavior of someone trying force obedience.

The fact that she immediately jumped to 'the Thalmor did it, absolutely!' when the very concept fails to pass muster is another big sign. If the Thalmor could control Alduin and have him ressurect other dragons into their service, like she decides must be happening, they'd roll over all opposition because at that point, you're the only known dragonborn left. The Septim line is gone. Miraak is forgotten. If they sent Alduin to burn down Hammerfel, the Redguards could do NOTHING to stop it. So it's pretty obvious that, despite all the things wrong with them, all their crimes, *that* is not theirs. They aren't in control of the dragons.

But she won't consider anything else unless the evidence is basically shoved down her throat.

[sdack]

The woman is right as rain. And only children trust a talking lizard.

Paarthurnax belongs on a BBQ.
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[Messsucher]

Originally posted by sdack:

The woman is right as rain. And only children trust a talking lizard. That thing belongs on a BBQ.

Are people to be trusted? What's the difference?

[sdack]

Originally posted by Messsucher:

Are people to be trusted? What's the difference?

The difference is that there are some people in one's life who love you. Them one can usually trust.

[Messsucher]

Originally posted by sdack:

Originally posted by Messsucher:

Are people to be trusted? What's the difference?

The difference is that there are some people in one's life who love you. Them one can usually trust.

So not many.

Current blades seem to want to drive dragons to extinction, and start it with one who has been 5000 years in peace atop a mountain. They have lost their mind and become a fearful cult with evil intentions. People do not have exclusive rights to the world.

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Have to say the main story was quite good after all. I especially liked the civil war raging on and blocking access to the main dragon story. Felt like successfully epic scale journey,

[Messsucher]

Originally posted by Chaosium:

Delphine is an old hag that needs to be Fus Ro Dah'd off a cliff

This was hilarious and at first thought very properly fitting end. But on a second thought she is blindly trying to extinguish a species, So she just lost the right to live. I will split her skull in half, without hesitation, like I have killed hundreds before her.

[sdack]

Originally posted by Messsucher:

People do not have exclusive rights to the world.

Actually, we do. We have property and land owners. Usually acquired through wealth, sometimes by force (see wars). Large animals, even seemingly peaceful ones, get captured and moved, sometimes killed or eaten. Animals that attack humans usually get killed, because such animals have lost their fear of people and will often do it again. Someone who got killed may now be dead and can no longer complain. Still, the dead deserve justice. Or what world would be living in if one could commit atrocities against others and then just sit on a mountain (or a personal compound like Bin Laden) and deserve to get away with it? Or Pablo Escobar, who had his own hippos. These hippos have grow out of control and are destroying nature now. You want to have a "talking dragon" on a mountain as a friend? I am sure you can find better friends.

[Messsucher]

Originally posted by sdack:

Originally posted by Messsucher:

People do not have exclusive rights to the world.

Actually, we do. We have property and land owners. Usually acquired through wealth, sometimes by force (see wars). Large animals, even seemingly peaceful ones, get captured and moved, sometimes killed or eaten. Animals that attack humans usually get killed, because such animals have lost their fear of people and will often do it again. Someone who got killed may now be dead and can no longer complain. Still, the dead deserve justice. Or what world would be living in if one could commit atrocities against others and then just sit on a mountain (or a personal compound like Bin Laden) and deserve to get away with it?

You imagine you do, but you don't.

[sdack]

Originally posted by Messsucher:

You imagine you do, but you don't.

We do, because we have such rights. Look it up.

[Valden21]

Originally posted by sdack:

Originally posted by Messsucher:

You imagine you do, but you don't.

We do, because we have such rights. Look it up.

Yeah, but look at how those rights get acquired in the first place. 9/10, it was because due to violence. That's IRL history, and one that's repeated over and over.

[sdack]

Originally posted by Valden21:

Yeah, but look at how those rights get acquired in the first place. 9/10, it was because due to violence. That's IRL history, and one that's repeated over and over.

Every crop planted on a field takes away space for other things to grow. Are you saying we should stop doing that? Are you saying all humanity must die for others to live? How is this any benefit to us when we are dead? No, Paarthurnax committed atrocities against humanity, and once on a BBQ will feed a lot of people.