Not sure if this is the right place to get help but....

[Ninjy]

I need help with modding.
I can get to the start menu just fine but when I try to start a new game, my game crashes.
Apologies for the long list but I'm posting both my mod order and plugin order (after the Skyrim DLC and AE stuff.)

Is it something with my load order on either? And I can't quite figure out what mod/mods are causing the issue either.

Mods:
1. Address Library for SKSE Plugins
2. Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch - USSEP
3. powerofthree's Tweaks
4. Bug Fixes SSE
5. Animation Queue Fix
6. SkyUI
7. powerofthree's Papyrus Extender
8. MCM Helper
9. Animation Motion Revolution
10. Spell Perk Item Distributor
11. Dynamic Animation Replacer
12. Paired Animation Improvements
13. Open Animation Replacer
14. EVG Animated Traversal
15. SkyClimb
16. Alternate Start - Live Another Life - SSE
17. SkyUI SE - Flashing Savegames Fix
18. RaceMenu
19. A Quality World Map
20. dMenu
21. Wheeler - Quick Action Wheel Of Skyrim
22. Show Player In Menus
23. Constructible Object Custom Keyword System
24. Achievements Mods Enabler
25. TrueHUD - HUD Additions
26. Static Mesh Improvement Mod
27. JK's Skyrim
28. JK's Whiterun Outskirts
29. JK's Solitude Outskirts
30. JK's Markarth Outskirts
31. JK's Riften Outskirts
32. JK's Windhelm Outskirts
33. JK's High Hrothgar
34. JK's Sky Haven Temple
35. JK's College of Winterhold
36. Obsidian Weathers and Seasons
37. Realistic Water Two SE
38. Fabled Forests
39. Northern Roads
40. Unmarked Locations Pack
41. Unmarked Locations Pack Fixes
42. Rawlith - A Khajiit Home
43. Khajiit Campsite
44. Goblins and Riekrs- Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version)
45. Skeletal Revenants- Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version) (''undead'')
46. ElSopa - Potions Redone
47. Ryn's Dragon Mounds Collection
48. Rudy - More dramatic Red Mountain Plume
49. Better Argonian Horns
50. Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim
51. Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim
52. Meridia's Order
53. Memorable Bounties - Witcher Inspired Quests
54. SIRENROOT - Deluge of Deceit
55. There Is No Umbra - Chapter III
56. Grief
57. Children of the Hist - An Argonian NPC Overhaul
58. DIVERSE SKYRIM SSE
59. INIGO
60. Sa'chil - Custom Voiced Khajiit Follower
61. Val Serano
62. M'rissi's Tails of Troubles SE
63. Khajiit Will Follow
64. Cloaks of Skyrim SSE
65. Slof's Fluffy Khajiit Tails SSE
66. Sentinel - An Equipment Overhaul
67. Immersive Weapons
68. Thane Weapons Reborn
69. InsanitySorrow Weapons Pack
70. VickusDickus' Khajiiti Apex Armory Reforged
71. Zim's Immersive Artifacts
72. Aetherium Armor and Weapons Compilation by lautasantenni
73. Immersive Armors
74. Moon Monk's Robes
75. Lunar Guard Armor
76. Armor Variants Expansion
77. Traveler's Armor Pack - Visually Upgradeable Outfit - Vanilla - CBBE
78. Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul
79. Immersive Patrols SE AE
80. Diverse Dragons Collection SE (DDCse)
81. Stones of Barenziah Quest Markers
82. Ordinator 50% more points
83. Ordinator Thief Skills Rebalance
84. VickusDickus' Khajiiti Apex Armory Rebalanced Redux
85. ApocalypseOrdinator Compatibility Patch
86. JK's Skyrim Realistic water two patch
87. Inigo - Bloodchill Manor patch
88. Unmarked Locations Ryn's Dragon Mounds Patch
89. JKs Guild HQ Interiors Patch Collection


Plugins:
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
DMKhajiitHaus.esl
evgSIRENROOT.esm
JK's College of Winterhold.esp
KhajiitWillFollow.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
TrueHUD.esl
EVGAnimatedTraversal.esl
SkyClimb.esp
RaceMenu.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
MCMHelper.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
JKs College of Winterhold - CC - Goldbrand Patch.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
JKs College of Winterhold - Khajiit Will Follow Patch.esp
JKs College of Winterhold - USSEP patch.esp
50 More Perk Points.esp
AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp
Apex_Khajiit.esp
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
AVExpansion.esp
AX ValSerano.esp
AX ValSerano-USSEP.esp
AX ValSerano-CC.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
BetterArgonianHorns.esp
Cloaks.esp
JKs College of Winterhold - Cloaks Patch.esp
Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp
DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
evgSIRENROOTtraversalpatch.esp
Fabled Forests.esp
FloatingSwordFollower.esp
JKs College of Winterhold - There Is No Umbra patch.esp
Grief.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
JKs College of Winterhold - Immersive Citizens patch.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Inigo.esp
Eli_InigoBloodchillPatch.esp
InsanitySorrow Weapons Pack.esp
JK's High Hrothgar.esp
JKs High Hrothgar - Cloaks of Skyrim patch.esp
JK's Markarth Outskirts.esp
JK's Riften Outskirts.esp
JK's Sky Haven Temple.esp
JKs Sky Haven Temple - USSEP Patch.esp
JKs Sky Haven Temple - IA Patch.esp
JK's Solitude Outskirts.esp
JK's Whiterun's Outskirts.esp
JK's Windhelm's Outskirts.esp
JKs Skyrim.esp
JKs Sky Haven Temple - JKs Skyrim Patch.esp
JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp
Kad_MoonMonkRobes.esp
LunarGuardArmor.esp
LZA Khajiit Campsite SSE.esp
Memorable Bounties - Witcher Inspired Quests.esp
mihailgoblinsandriekrs.esp
mihailskeletalrevenants.esp
MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp
JKs College of Winterhold - M'rissi Patch.esp
Northern Roads.esp
Obsidian Weathers.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
QwibTravelerOutfit.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Myrwatch Patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Alt Volcanic Watercolor.esp
Ryn's Dragon Mounds AIO.esp
Sentinel.esp
ShowPlayerInMenus.esp
Slof's Fluffy Khajiit Tails.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
SU04SachilFollower.esp
ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp
Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp
Unmarked Locations Pack.esp
Unmarked Locations Pack - Ryn's Dragon Mounds Collection Patch.esp
Unmarked Locations Pack - Fixes.esp
ZIA_Complete Pack.esp

[Indio21]

Originally posted by Ninjy:

I need help with modding.

Out of curiosity, when did you put this LO together, recently? I ask because of all the individual JK mods for cities. I "think" jk is not updating the individual files now as I have seen reviewing. Now I think it is just JK Skyrim and the AIO that is updated.

I mention this because most of the fomod installers I see now are not recognizing the individual JK cities for patches. I usually only see the option for JK Skyrim, so am curious if you have all, and the updated, patches you need.

[Ninjy]

Originally posted by Altbert:

Check your SKSE DLL plugins against SKSE Plugin Status[modding.wiki]. Be sure to at least have SKSE and Address Library compatible to the version of Skyrim SE you have. Some more info can be found here:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3111663148

Yep, I've got the compatible versions with 1170

[Ninjy]

Originally posted by Indio21:

Originally posted by Ninjy:

I need help with modding.

Out of curiosity, when did you put this LO together, recently? I ask because of all the individual JK mods for cities. I "think" jk is not updating the individual files now as I have seen reviewing. Now I think it is just JK Skyrim and the AIO that is updated.

I mention this because most of the fomod installers I see now are not recognizing the individual JK cities for patches. I usually only see the option for JK Skyrim, so am curious if you have all, and the updated, patches you need.

Those individual mods are for the outskirts, not the cities themselves. I looked it up and they're not included in the AIO. I don't think the temple is either.

[Sep]

Originally posted by Ninjy:

AAAAAnd I spoke too soon lol

Now I can't interact with NPCs (like statue of Mara from alternate start), go to the player menu (to access equipment and Magic and stuff), or access character creation from default start if i disable Alt Start

Check your load order, the plugin priority is probably too low/high and being overwritten by other plugin.

I have this happen to me before.

[Ninjy]

Originally posted by Sep:

Originally posted by Ninjy:

AAAAAnd I spoke too soon lol

Now I can't interact with NPCs (like statue of Mara from alternate start), go to the player menu (to access equipment and Magic and stuff), or access character creation from default start if i disable Alt Start

Check your load order, the plugin priority is probably too low/high and being overwritten by other plugin.

I have this happen to me before.

Funnily enough the issue was Skyclimb. It hasn't been updated for past patch or two (its in the works) but a community member got a workaround in the form of replacing the .dll file.

[Credos75]

ok from my experience patch 1.6.1170 engine fixes is bugged and disables mods also open animation replacer doesnt work on newest patch so i cant play with animations i just ctd when using oar after 10 seconds of playing no matter what even new games also immersive equipment displays ctd cause it requires oar engine fixes disables all my mods tried all the work arounds and everything all the videos nothing helped disabled and removed mod skyrim worked just fine

[Nabinkemper]

There was no reason to hijack someone's thread. You could have posted your issue in a new thread in order to receive help.

Originally posted by Credos75:

ok from my experience patch 1.6.1170 engine fixes is bugged and disables mods...

You should take a look at the following guide under the section 'SSE Engine Fixes' for a solution -
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3111663148

Additionally, review the 'SKSE Plugin Status' page from the link in the guide. It lists many SKSE dependent mods and their status for several versions of the game.

Originally posted by Credos75:

...open animation replacer doesnt work on newest patch so i cant play with animations...

Open Animation Replacer has been updated -
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/92109

Again, review the linked guide for information.

[Altbert]

Generally it would be a good idea to always mention the SSE version you are using, your load order as presented by LOOT and the SKSE DLL plugins you may be using, if you are using SKSE. Depending on the issues it may sometimes be a good idea to mention the asset replacers. which are not using an accompanied ESL, ESM or ESP. When you have an issue, it may be caused by any of the mods your are using.

[Alex]

While this is not exactly a necropost, why do people try to hijack other people's threads with some nonsense? Not a single punctuation mark, this not a post, it's a litany to the chaos gods.

I applaud nabinkemper for his patience.

[gregnewman2022]

So far , I've only had this happen with FO4 . Usually when ( at least when it's happened to me ) when it happens to me , it's either a mod that that changes the atmosphere /enviroment / landscape or a mod that's out of date .

[Nabinkemper]

Originally posted by Alex:

...I applaud nabinkemper for his patience.

Appreciated, Alex. I'm not the most knowledgeable but I will go out of my way to research an issue for people.

[Marellevent]

its wheeler