The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

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Sep Dec 6, 2023 @ 9:43am
Why not introduce this features?
https://i.ibb.co/tYtJhBc/Version.jpg

Imagine if Bethesda introduce an option whereby you can select which version of skyrim to launch and use. Not only can you play the older version of skyrim without breaking the mod, you can also play the newer version as well.

Think about all the time it saves for user, modder & curator.
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Because its pointless for this type of game in the long run.

The latest patch will almost always be an improvement. Sometimes patches in games can introduce problems, but those get subsequently patched.
This latest patch was a slew of bugfixes which is nice, some bugs that have been in the game since the original release in 2011 have been fixed.

Side note, not as relevant but:
I also don't think it would be healthy for modders, knowing how entitled the mod users are;
This is not like Minecraft where different versions might introduce extreme changes that would be undesirable for some. Most new mods would doubtlessly be for the latest version, then users who stick to their old dated version of Skyrim would cry for the modder to specifically make it for their udpate too.

Ultimately tl;dr,
It is not worth it, understand the 101 basics of modding which is backing up and launching exclusively with skse to avoid an accidental update (which if that happens, use your backups you have on hand.
Sep Dec 6, 2023 @ 10:19am 
Originally posted by Entity Mystic:
Because its pointless for this type of game in the long run.

The latest patch will almost always be an improvement. Sometimes patches in games can introduce problems, but those get subsequently patched.
This latest patch was a slew of bugfixes which is nice, some bugs that have been in the game since the original release in 2011 have been fixed.

Side note, not as relevant but:
I also don't think it would be healthy for modders, knowing how entitled the mod users are;
This is not like Minecraft where different versions might introduce extreme changes that would be undesirable for some. Most new mods would doubtlessly be for the latest version, then users who stick to their old dated version of Skyrim would cry for the modder to specifically make it for their udpate too.

Ultimately tl;dr,
It is not worth it, understand the 101 basics of modding which is backing up and launching exclusively with skse to avoid an accidental update (which if that happens, use your backups you have on hand.

It's far from being pointless, it made the product far more user friendly. You cannot expect consumer to know everything. That is why customer support exist within the company, to get feedback and improves the quality of the product further.

It is also why mod manager such as Vortex is made to be far more simple to be comprehend in comparison to MO2 or Wyre Bash.

User who decide to stay at older version can request for the modder to make it compatible with their version but they cannot outright made a demands out of it, that was straight up harassment and is a bannable offense at site such as nexus.

Also, expecting every mod to be update is a total oversight as some modder already retired due to old age or dies of natural cause. Don't forget that not every mod is open sources, so you cannot even expect someone else to take over the mod and update it either.
Originally posted by Sep:
It is also why mod manager such as Vortex is made to be far more simple to be comprehend in comparison to MO2 or Wyre Bash.

If you struggle with MO2 then you probably struggle with the basics of modding and should not be messing with such things.
It is a powerful and very straightforward tool; of which there are many well directed videos by GamerPoets on Youtube that are often less than 5-10 minutes that cover almost anything you might have a question for

But I digress. I like having access to old versions of games but it is often unnecessary, such as the case with Skyrim.
if you are really desperate to downgrade your game, I do recall there is a tool to do so on Nexus.

Originally posted by Sep:
It's far from being pointless, it made the product far more user friendly.
It is more user friendly to have one singular version of the game that everyone has in common than to have multiple versions.
Originally posted by Sep:
You cannot expect consumer to know everything.
If you are making third party modifications to the game (modding) then the burden of knowledge rests solely upon the user. I cannot think of a single game developer that thinks themselves responsible for your actions that alter the game; rather they imply you forfeit support from them by making alterations to their product.
Sep Dec 6, 2023 @ 1:29pm 
If you struggle with MO2 then you probably struggle with the basics of modding and should not be messing with such things.
It is a powerful and very straightforward tool; of which there are many well directed videos by GamerPoets on Youtube that are often less than 5-10 minutes that cover almost anything you might have a question for

But I digress. I like having access to old versions of games but it is often unnecessary, such as the case with Skyrim.
if you are really desperate to downgrade your game, I do recall there is a tool to do so on Nexus.

Like I said, product need to be user friendly for end user. End user are under no obligations to learn everything in order to get it to work. It's like telling other to learn markup language just to use webpage.

That is why tools comes with instruction on how to use it, but never provide details to the point it look more like a encyclopedia instead.

It is more user friendly to have one singular version of the game that everyone has in common than to have multiple versions.

It based on case by case basis... when problems arise due to update, then it is no longer user friendly.

Update is suppose to improves the quality, not inconvenient the user. When it does, it is time to question it.

If you are making third party modifications to the game (modding) then the burden of knowledge rests solely upon the user. I cannot think of a single game developer that thinks themselves responsible for your actions that alter the game; rather they imply you forfeit support from them by making alterations to their product.

I believe this is also case by case basis, it depends on what the game was design around. If game was design and based around modding such as Gary Mod, the responsibility would probably fall into gray area.
Team Vladof Dec 12, 2023 @ 9:54pm 
They won't even implement an in-game FOV slider.

Asking them to provide a versioning option like Minecraft is asking the moon of them.
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