Bretons are EZ mode

[seal cub clubbing club]

Arena: start with magic defense of 10. this is the max magic resistance, Jagar Tharn the final boss is unable too hurt you aside from like, poison or something.

daggerfall: female bretons start with no stat changes. they can be any build you want them too, and not get your melee build cucked by going nord becouse they have -agility that needs too be offset with enchants

morrowind: dragon skin, enjoy being invunereble. conjuration, enjoy not having too do any fighting yourself. base atributes, enjoy being based with 50 int.

oblivion: mostly the same as morrowind

skyrim: one of the few races viable on LEGENDAIRY. doesnt matter if you can get steel armor at riverwood, your still gona get 2 shot by wolves you silly nord. but bretons? they get their own wolf summon which SCALES with difficulty! and if any of your summons die, summon it again! oh, and dragonskin+racial bonus is now a phat thicc 75% magic resistance. soooo make wizards an 8 shot enemy ;)

[Alucard †]

Meh.
Enchanting makes any Race and almost any build an easy mode on Legendary.
Some synergies with it are downright broken OP.

So it doesn't matter in the long run unless you want to completely avoid Enchanting for some reason.

EDIT: Also what's this about Conjure Familiar scaling with difficulty? Well truth is almost any summon in the game does it and there are few that do it way better than the Conjure Familiar (aka Wolf summon) .. The wolf is trash tier other than a cheap and short lived distraction untill you get better summons.

[seal cub clubbing club]

Alucard †, getting too the point that you have the infinite restoration loop for enchanting is pretty hard when you are still at the standing stones failing too 3v1 wolves

what im saying is that if you need too play on novice in order too break legendairy, then you are playing on novice

long runs are hard too do when your knees are broken. you wont be avoiding enchanting, youll be avoiding death

yes summon wolf is the weakest conjuration spell in the game, and on legendairy its still better at combat then your level 10 caracther. but indeed its adviced getting better summons

Crusader, based

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by ᶦˢʳᵃᵉˡ:

Alucard †, getting too the point that you have the infinite restoration loop for enchanting

I am not talking about the restoration loop.
Enchanting is overpowered without it.

I forgot even how to do that glitch it's been a long while since i last used it cause it's fixed in my game. (Unofficial fixes)

Originally posted by ᶦˢʳᵃᵉˡ:

what im saying is that if you need too play on novice in order too break legendairy, then you are playing on novice

What Novice has to do with Enchanting being a end all and massive boost for all kinds of builds?

Unless you mean that Enchanting makes Legendary feel like Novice once you max it then yea it does.

Infinite spells for Mages
Super Hard Hitting melee / ranged weapons
Armor that makes you borderline immune to physical and magic attacks. (Hence why i don't really care what Race i pick at the start i just go for aesthetics)

Originally posted by ᶦˢʳᵃᵉˡ:

long runs are hard too do when your knees are broken. you wont be avoiding enchanting, youll be avoiding death

I've done it many times before. On Legendary from start to finish.
Some might say i'm pretty boring cause i always aim to get Enchanting maxed before the skill gain curve becomes too grindy.
I love the freedom of making all sorts of overpowered ♥♥♥♥ for various scenarios.

I level Enchanting between my adventures, usually alongside Smithing.

Also. Keep in mind that this game locks Encounter Zones to your character's current level upon first visit. (And it stays like that for the rest of the game)

So if you done a lot of exploring while very low level then you won't encounter stuff that can clap you in 1-2 hits that often - with exception of few specific areas and random encounters of course.

Legendary is not as scary as people make it.

Originally posted by ᶦˢʳᵃᵉˡ:

Alucard †, getting too the point that you have the infinite restoration loop for enchanting is pretty hard when you are still at the standing stones failing too 3v1 wolves

Okay curious how are you failing against wolves??
Even on Legendary on fresh character wearing cloth they drop super easily and don't do much damage.

Ice Wolves i understand they are properly tanky on early levels and can one shot you if you encounter them.

But regular wolves? You have to actually purposely try to die to them..

[Cinus]

Lol i played any race with daggers without exploit and it is still easy on legendary. Just use brain

[John]

Your point of saying Bretons are OP in Skyrim is cause of conjure wolf?, everyone can get that the minute they enter Riverwood, heck everyone can get a flame atronach basically for free in the first 5 minutes of the game.

Every character is viable on Legendary, although the 25% magic resistance is rather nice, everyone can easily get 85%.

[seal cub clubbing club]

Alucard † i was just getting a whole explination ready when i read *I've done it many times before. On Legendary from start to finish.* and i realised you are lying your @ss off.

Cinus and another 1

John again, if you guys realy played legendairy you would know the struggle. but instead you hoover around with novice, only accasionaly turning the difficulty up so you can use killall in console. downloading mods with chests full of grand soulgems. and darksouls combat overhauls so you can convince yourself your skill in Iframes made you invincible. and if all that fails in making you feel like you are good at the game, well then you just upload those screenshots wont you?

Alucard † i would have loved too confront you with one of those, but jesus dude, over 6k screenshots. im not gona sift through all of that just too find your smut :P

Cinus you only have 6, but 1 of them is from spellforce so i can respect that

John https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1671566858 you seem too be using the bloody targe, a generic dragonpriest staff and what looks like dark brotherhood gloves? also a big old roster of modded buffs. now the most intresting thing here however would be the dremora lord you summoned. youll be eather using the sanguine rose which requires level 14 too start, so that wouldnt be a thing at level 1. or youll be doing the expert conjuration quest for Phinis Gestor which requires 90 conjuration unbuffed. which you might be able too reach at level 1 if you never level up but still train conjuration. this would also explain why you only have 1 of them becouse you couldnt pick the twin souls perk.

yet i still doubt the validity of your claims since you guys say that legendairy is easy, yet still take great pride from telling people you beat it

[Docsprock]

Originally posted by ᶦˢʳᵃᵉˡ:

Alucard † i was just getting a whole explination ready when i read *I've done it many times before. On Legendary from start to finish.* and i realised you are lying your @ss off.

Cinus and another 1

John again, if you guys realy played legendairy you would know the struggle. but instead you hoover around with novice, only accasionaly turning the difficulty up so you can use killall in console. downloading mods with chests full of grand soulgems. and darksouls combat overhauls so you can convince yourself your skill in Iframes made you invincible. and if all that fails in making you feel like you are good at the game, well then you just upload those screenshots wont you?

Alucard † i would have loved too confront you with one of those, but jesus dude, over 6k screenshots. im not gona sift through all of that just too find your smut :P

Cinus you only have 6, but 1 of them is from spellforce so i can respect that

John https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1671566858 you seem too be using the bloody targe, a generic dragonpriest staff and what looks like dark brotherhood gloves? also a big old roster of modded buffs. now the most intresting thing here however would be the dremora lord you summoned. youll be eather using the sanguine rose which requires level 14 too start, so that wouldnt be a thing at level 1. or youll be doing the expert conjuration quest for Phinis Gestor which requires 90 conjuration unbuffed. which you might be able too reach at level 1 if you never level up but still train conjuration. this would also explain why you only have 1 of them becouse you couldnt pick the twin souls perk.

yet i still doubt the validity of your claims since you guys say that legendairy is easy, yet still take great pride from telling people you beat it

You are seriously calling people out on the way they play their game? Just go have fun.

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by ᶦˢʳᵃᵉˡ:

Alucard † i was just getting a whole explination ready when i read..

Yeah yeah sure you did

Originally posted by ᶦˢʳᵃᵉˡ:

i realised you are lying your @ss off.

Oh boy..

You being bad at a casual game like this to the point where you struggle against common wolves as you admitted. Doesn't make anyone a liar who completed this game on Legendary difficulty.

It's Skyrim not Dark Souls

[seal cub clubbing club]

Alucard † thats becouse your wolves are like this https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.1373073035.3205/poster,504x498,f8f8f8-pad,600x600,f8f8f8.jpg

while my wolves are like this https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.1922102137.8394/flat,750x,075,f-pad,750x1000,f8f8f8.jpg

im not calling them out on how they play the game, im calling them out on how they dont play the game :)

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by ᶦˢʳᵃᵉˡ:

Alucard † thats becouse your wolves are like this https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.1373073035.3205/poster,504x498,f8f8f8-pad,600x600,f8f8f8.jpg

Correct cause unmodded vanilla common wolves (the dark gray ones) are like this even on Legendary.

If they aren't in your game then you have a mod active that you forgot to uninstall ;)

Ice Wolves are tough on Legendary early on and something to avoid if not prepared , common Wolves are not.

[Sep]

Kinda funny you need to go to stalk someone else profile to justify your reason behind it. Legendary difficulty just tweak the damage modifier, it doesn't change anything else as far as I concern.

You can literally just get a follower to do the same job the summoning wolf does. Faendal or Sven is probably the cheapest and fastest one you can get your hand on.

Also, these people already spend thousands of hours into the game. They would had at least complete this game twice at vanilla state by now. Why in the hell would they want to play the game at unmodded states at legendary difficulty again when they already done that?

Farengar at Dragonreach sell the tome at about 150-200 gold, you can even get flame atronach tome over there for 300 gold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSZP7pxsS_s

[seal cub clubbing club]

Alucard † your vast knowlige about wolves indicate that you feed them peanutbutter extra nut. just roll a bosmer already :P

Sep thank you for calling me just and funny ^^ and yea, legendairy turns your followers into the main caracther lel. also those 3000 played just means they have spend a lot of time doing it wrong :)

[Sep]

Originally posted by ᶦˢʳᵃᵉˡ:

Sep thank you for calling me just and funny ^^ and yea, legendairy turns your followers into the main caracther lel. also those 3000 played just means they have spend a lot of time doing it wrong :)

If you want to start the game as Mary Sue, you might as well just download a 100% complete saves. Ever heard about character development? You start off weak and grow stronger over time. Your companion is being strong at the start cause they already establish themselves long ago. That's how every story goes.

This is a single player game, there is no such thing as wrong way to play the game. People can play it however they want. You cannot blame or whine about them just because they manage to figure out how to make the game easy modded or unmodded.

Every race have their pro & con and it is even more apparent when it is play with survival mode on. Once you start to play Legendary difficulty with Survival mode enable, you would notice the advantage Breton have isn't as overwhelming as you think it is.

Good luck playing at Legendary difficulty with survival mode on as Breton. Keeping your fatigue in check is a real pain in the ass compare to other race.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by Alucard †:

Originally posted by ᶦˢʳᵃᵉˡ:

Alucard †, getting too the point that you have the infinite restoration loop for enchanting

I am not talking about the restoration loop.
Enchanting is overpowered without it.

I forgot even how to do that glitch it's been a long while since i last used it cause it's fixed in my game. (Unofficial fixes)

Originally posted by ᶦˢʳᵃᵉˡ:

what im saying is that if you need too play on novice in order too break legendairy, then you are playing on novice

What Novice has to do with Enchanting being a end all and massive boost for all kinds of builds?

Unless you mean that Enchanting makes Legendary feel like Novice once you max it then yea it does.

Infinite spells for Mages
Super Hard Hitting melee / ranged weapons
Armor that makes you borderline immune to physical and magic attacks. (Hence why i don't really care what Race i pick at the start i just go for aesthetics)

True, but you need to spend time getting Enchanting up to that level.
And if you focus solely on Enchanting and Smithing (although nobody has mentioned Smithing yet) then you are going to get OP enemies. Which means you don't get too OP until you have a number of levels under your belt.

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

True, but you need to spend time getting Enchanting up to that level.

Yes. Hence why i said "in the long run" this is not a get OP quick scheme.
But once you have your Enchanting maxed you are set for the rest of the run.

I aim to get Enchanting set up before the skill gain curve becomes too grindy.
So before level 40-50 cause that's where i notice skill gain starts to reach that threshold of being really slow.

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

And if you focus solely on Enchanting and Smithing (although nobody has mentioned Smithing yet) then you are going to get OP enemies. Which means you don't get too OP until you have a number of levels under your belt.

Not solely focus on Enchanting but get it maxed as soon as you can it makes Legendary life way easier.

I did mention Smithing in post 4 btw
"I level Enchanting between my adventures, usually alongside Smithing."

As for OP enemies eh as long as you are playing smart it's not that bad. 100% doable. It only means enemies "take more hits to kill" not necessarily "oh my god i'm going to die instantly!"

By playing smart i mean don't try to face tank and bare fist a Draugr Deathlord while naked or run into camp full of high level lightning mages without a backup.

Enemy AI is dumb as rocks in this game and there are companions readily available from the start that can tank / distract for you - which are stronger on Legendary cause the difficulty boosts them aswell.

Not to mention if you explore a lot as low level the areas you already visited (regardless if cleared them of enemies or not) get locked to your character's level on said first visit and never change. Meaning only low level trash mobs will respawn in that area no matter how many times you clear it and wait for reset - and trash loot too.
(There is a mod that "fixes" that by uncapping the Encounter Zones)