most common reason for game crash?

[unit02]

Playing the Special Edition on Win10, RTX 3080 Ti, 32GB RAM.
It began crashing when i left the first bandit camp; always when i tried to get back into skyrim. Crashed on the loading screen.
Installed Inofficial Patch and Script Extender and it still crashes - even random on the open world map.

Any ideas? Google is not helping

[Corinze]

If this is vanilla with no mods, lock your fps to 60, the game engine is old and does not respond well with high fps.

[SpeedFreak1972]

and if you use mods we'll need a load order. Also run a verify of the game files just to make sure.

[unit02]

only what i mentioned. mods are the reason i can't google it; bc I do not use any.
locking fps is a great idea, but did not help.

[Corinze]

From Steam Library validate the game files. Then go to steam/steamapps/common/skyrim special edition (or where ever you have the game stored on computer) find Skyrim Special Edition.exe, right click and run as administrator. You should also go to your virus program and allow the .exe file. The .exe is the game launcher as an fyi.
Try those first.

[sdack]

Originally posted by Corinze:

If this is vanilla with no mods, lock your fps to 60, the game engine is old and does not respond well with high fps.

Sorry, but the opposite is rather true. The vanilla game runs well with high framerates and you can find mods that will specifically support this, i.e. with DLSS. It is when one installs increasing numbers of mods that it begins to limit the game's capabilities, like having to start the game from an external program (for SKSE to work), needing to lock the frame rate to 59fps for some mods to function properly, autosave and quicksave becoming unreliable due to too many events taking place, etc. In short, not every mod author is gentle with how they modify the game engine and one has to pay a certain price for the freedom of using mods.

I suggest for OP to install the "SSE Engine Fixes". These address common crashes and the mod should be one of the first mods to install when one wants a crash-free experience. The Unofficial Patch is another such mod:

Unofficial Patch - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/266
SSE Engine Fixes - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17230

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by sdack:

Originally posted by Corinze:

If this is vanilla with no mods, lock your fps to 60, the game engine is old and does not respond well with high fps.

Sorry, but the opposite is rather true.

That's patently false.

Bethesda have stated that the game can't handle an FPS higher than 60, and that it's just luck that it can do 60, it was designed for a max of 30. You may use mods that allow the physics to work at higher fps, but vanilla SE will crash if the fps is higher.

And I'm not getting into the debate about whether the higher FPS is safe with that mod, just that vanilla isn't safe.

[sdack]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Originally posted by sdack:

Sorry, but the opposite is rather true.

That's patently false.

Bethesda have stated that the game can't handle an FPS higher than 60, and that it's just luck that it can do 60, it was designed for a max of 30. You may use mods that allow the physics to work at higher fps, but vanilla SE will crash if the fps is higher.

And I'm not getting into the debate about whether the higher FPS is safe with that mod, just that vanilla isn't safe.

Sorry, but you got yourself into the debate by replying to my comment.

Your statement is false here. Bethesda have said something about the game, but it was in regards to the settings of the .ini files, which are tuned by default to 30fps. You then do not see anyone claiming the game could not be run at more than 800x600 resolution just because this is the default and the resolution the game was designed for. It is a misconception, which some people have and unfortunately finds support by those players who run countless mods and therefore find themselves having to limit the framerate to 59 or 60fps.

One can run the game at higher framerates and the SSE Display Tweaks, the mod you are referring to, does change the .ini file settings for you to run the game at very high framerates. It is not actually necessary for the vanilla game and it can run as you well know at 60fps and more despite your claim of a 30fps maximum. You know this, and yet you claim the opposite to be true against your better knowledge. This is clearly your problem, and not a debate, and something you have to come to terms with yourself.

For those who want to know more about high framerates, see this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdAemO7NCqQ
The mod to change .ini file settings for very high framerates (up to 240fps), can be found here:
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/34705

[xybolt]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Originally posted by sdack:

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ffs stop with arguing about fps lock or not. OP tried it and it did not help. So could it be that the problem is somewhere else?

@ unit02; The advice of using SSE Engine Fixes is a good one though. Since you have installed SKSE already, you can use this. But do know that installing SKSE is not sufficient. You need to launch the game through its launcher (run skse_launcher.exe). It happens people new in modding is making that mistake.

Since this happens on various places, it could be a driver thing. There's a crash logger tool you can use to pinpoint the culprit.

• requirement 1: have SKSE - you have it it seems
  
• requirement 2: address library: add it - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/32444
  
• the actual mod: crash debugger - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/59818

Launch the game through SKSE launcher and let it crash. Try to figure out (or post it here in code - NOT SPOILER! - tags) what the culprit could be

[Corinze]

Unbelievable sdack, just Unbelievable. Take your 100 hour expert advice and share it on reddit.
The Nice person is having issues on a vanilla game, why would you add mods? Basic modding 101, have a stable game before modding. Even the 40 hour experts understand this simple basic principle.
Back to the op, I missed you had skse. It most likely got installed wrong or wrong version. Are you getting errors or just crashing?

[Bad Distraction Carnifex]

Are you using the right version of script extender and the unofficial patch?

Vanilla can sometimes crash but this feels like an odd situation. It shouldn't be crashing with only 2 framework mods.

Also, did you mess with your skyrim.ini and skyrimprefs.ini?

Bad settings can cause crashes too.

[xybolt]

Originally posted by Bad Distraction Carnifex:

Are you using the right version of script extender

SKSE has a built-in version check. You cannot have it mismatching :-)
The game simply won't launch if SKSE detects the Skyrim executable is in a different version it's built for.

[Sep]

Have you try verify file integrity?

[sdack]

Originally posted by Corinze:

Unbelievable sdack, just Unbelievable. ...

I am just clearing up the misconception that the game could not run above 30fps or 60fps. Pretend I was not here or put me on your ignore list.

[Bad Distraction Carnifex]

Originally posted by xybolt:

Originally posted by Bad Distraction Carnifex:

Are you using the right version of script extender

SKSE has a built-in version check. You cannot have it mismatching :-)
The game simply won't launch if SKSE detects the Skyrim executable is in a different version it's built for.

It's been...a very, very long time since I've made that mistake. I had no clue about the redundancy feature there. Noice!

[Corinze]

That not how I roll sdack. I'll plain out tell ya, I've put the hours in testing this theory, I wanted to believe just me, but at the end of the day; capping at 60 fps is the best option and should be the advice given to anyone new the Skyrim. Sure the game runs fine at 120 with the proper utility mods but issues appear later on, at 240 your not getting a long trouble free play through, go any higher you can pretend all you want with a single level 10 toon and be the Look at Me I'm so Cool Guy. If you want to have multiple toons above 60 and some into the 100s, 60 fps = the best fps.