How much esp plugin does all creation club occupied ?

[Sep]

For those who own all CC content, how much esm or esp plugin does all creation club occupied ?

From what I remember, the limit plugin for now is 250 (Due to dlc), so if all CC contain with esm or esp plugin was include, how much plugin slot would it occupied?

Been using search engine and yield no result so far, I just wanted to know in order to avoid hitting the brick.

[Mr. Wicked]

Actually none, they're all in esl form so you shouldn't worry about maxing your limit when you do get the Anniversary Upgrade. When you launch the game with it and enter the store it'll begin to download all the dlc automatically but could take some time though.

[FauxFurry]

There are a few larger dungeon creations that do not take to ESL format so the number is around 3 in total.

[Sep]

Originally posted by Anon:

Actually none, they're all in esl form so you shouldn't worry about maxing your limit when you do get the Anniversary Upgrade. When you launch the game with it and enter the store it'll begin to download all the dlc automatically but could take some time though.

Good to know they don't occupied any slot.. I just wanted to confirm it since I seen enough thread of people saying the limit already been reduce to 250 or 253 after dlc being add like this thread here.......

https://www.quora.com/In-Skyrim-SE-I-reached-the-mod-limit-of-255-If-I-install-a-mod-pack-will-it-be-counted-as-one-plugin
https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/9yh2bd/can_someone_explain_how_the_plugin_limit_in/
https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/n6gxc5/how_many_plugins_can_i_have_for_skyrim_se_i_have/

Guess I gonna do a bit more homework before deciding if I going to upgrade it or not. At 240 plugin right now with all heavy scripted mod, it just doesn't seems to worth the risk.

Edit:

Originally posted by FauxFurry:

There are a few larger dungeon creations that do not take to ESL format so the number is around 3 in total.

Damn.. another different answer.. so do you have all CC content and confirm it occupied those slot?

[SpeedFreak1972]

If you have all CC there are 11 that are labeled as ESM Just counted in MO2

[Sep]

Originally posted by SpeedFreak1972:

If you have all CC there are 11 that are labeled as ESM Just counted in MO2

So if official content that are mention at the quora site that hold the plugin (Update, Dawnguard, Hearthfire, Dragonborn and hold esl ) are true, that would means the plugin limit would be at 239 at most.

Guess I gotta hold up from upgrading to SA edition then...

[Mr. Wicked]

Oh maybe but I didn't notice a difference in load though. I have 167 Esp/m and 704 Esl there being over 900 mods and have never worried about reaching the limit. You however should probably try to make several of your mods to Esl form if you can, maybe obtain some more wiggle room.

[FauxFurry]

Originally posted by Sep:

Originally posted by Anon:

Actually none, they're all in esl form so you shouldn't worry about maxing your limit when you do get the Anniversary Upgrade. When you launch the game with it and enter the store it'll begin to download all the dlc automatically but could take some time though.

Good to know they don't occupied any slot.. I just wanted to confirm it since I seen enough thread of people saying the limit already been reduce to 250 or 253 after dlc being add like this thread here.......

https://www.quora.com/In-Skyrim-SE-I-reached-the-mod-limit-of-255-If-I-install-a-mod-pack-will-it-be-counted-as-one-plugin
https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/9yh2bd/can_someone_explain_how_the_plugin_limit_in/
https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/n6gxc5/how_many_plugins_can_i_have_for_skyrim_se_i_have/

Guess I gonna do a bit more homework before deciding if I going to upgrade it or not. At 240 plugin right now with all heavy scripted mod, it just doesn't seems to worth the risk.

Edit:

Originally posted by FauxFurry:

There are a few larger dungeon creations that do not take to ESL format so the number is around 3 in total.

Damn.. another different answer.. so do you have all CC content and confirm it occupied those slot?

Tundra Homestead, Ghost of the Tribunal, Forgotten Seasons, Umbra, Dead Man's Dread, Saints and Seducers, Bloodchill Manor, Fishing, Nchuanthumz, and The Cause are all ESM rather than ESL.
That is actually 10 slots occupied by Creation Club content if one has the Anniversary Edition bundle.

[th]

ccbgssse002-exoticarrows.esl
ccbgssse003-zombies.esl
ccbgssse004-ruinsedge.esl
ccbgssse005-goldbrand.esl
ccbgssse006-stendarshammer.esl
ccbgssse007-chrysamere.esl
ccbgssse008-wraithguard.esl
ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl
ccbgssse011-hrsarmrelvn.esl
ccbgssse012-hrsarmrstl.esl
ccbgssse013-dawnfang.esl
ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl
ccbgssse018-shadowrend.esl
ccbgssse019-staffofsheogorath.esl
ccbgssse020-graycowl.esl
ccbgssse021-lordsmail.esl
ccbgssse034-mntuni.esl
ccbgssse035-petnhound.esl
ccbgssse036-petbwolf.esl
ccbgssse038-bowofshadows.esl
ccbgssse040-advobgobs.esl
ccbgssse041-netchleather.esl
ccbgssse043-crosselv.esl
ccbgssse045-hasedoki.esl
ccbgssse050-ba_daedric.esl
ccbgssse051-ba_daedricmail.esl
ccbgssse052-ba_iron.esl
ccbgssse053-ba_leather.esl
ccbgssse054-ba_orcish.esl
ccbgssse055-ba_orcishscaled.esl
ccbgssse056-ba_silver.esl
ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim.esl
ccbgssse058-ba_steel.esl
ccbgssse059-ba_dragonplate.esl
ccbgssse060-ba_dragonscale.esl
ccbgssse061-ba_dwarven.esl
ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail.esl
ccbgssse063-ba_ebony.esl
ccbgssse064-ba_elven.esl
ccbgssse066-staves.esl
ccbgssse068-bloodfall.esl
ccbgssse069-contest.esl
cccbhsse001-gaunt.esl
ccedhsse001-norjewel.esl
ccedhsse002-splkntset.esl
ccedhsse003-redguard.esl
cceejsse002-tower.esl
cceejsse003-hollow.esl
cceejsse004-hall.esl
ccffbsse001-imperialdragon.esl
ccffbsse002-crossbowpack.esl
ccfsvsse001-backpacks.esl
cckrtsse001_altar.esl
ccmtysse001-knightsofthenine.esl
ccmtysse002-ve.esl
ccpewsse002-armsofchaos.esl
ccqdrsse002-firewood.esl
ccrmssse001-necrohouse.esl
ccvsvsse001-winter.esl
ccvsvsse002-pets.esl
ccvsvsse003-necroarts.esl
ccvsvsse004-beafarmer.esl
ccafdsse001-dwesanctuary.esm
ccasvsse001-almsivi.esm
ccbgssse016-umbra.esm
ccbgssse031-advcyrus.esm
ccbgssse067-daedinv.esm
cceejsse001-hstead.esm
cceejsse005-cave.esm
cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.esm

[th]

8 esm, 62 esl.

[th]

I didn't count those 4 creations which are now in the base game. You can check them yourself.

[th]

Originally posted by Sep:

Originally posted by SpeedFreak1972:

If you have all CC there are 11 that are labeled as ESM Just counted in MO2

So if official content that are mention at the quora site that hold the plugin (Update, Dawnguard, Hearthfire, Dragonborn and hold esl ) are true, that would means the plugin limit would be at 239 at most.

Guess I gotta hold up from upgrading to SA edition then...

What's SA edition?

Also you can not check Update, Dawnguard, Hearthfire and Dragonborn yourself? Why bother with some site?

Ok. Let me do this for you:

Dawnguard.esm
Dragonborn.esm
HearthFires.esm
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm

I took the file names from my Data folder directly.

[th]

Also keep in mind that you don't have to install all 70 creations at the same time. You can install only some of the creations by your choice.

To do this you just need to switch off this checkbox BEFORE the first run of the game after its clean reinstall.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2822134635
In such case autodownload feature will not happen and you can install creations manually one by one.

Or you can just delete some of the creations. To do this see this list. It contains full list of files of every creation.

Adventurer's Backpack\Creations\4059057-3.manifest
Adventurer's Backpack\Data\ccfsvsse001-backpacks.bsa
Adventurer's Backpack\Data\ccfsvsse001-backpacks.esl
Alternative Armors - Daedric Mail\Creations\4110993-4.manifest
Alternative Armors - Daedric Mail\Data\ccbgssse051-ba_daedricmail.bsa
Alternative Armors - Daedric Mail\Data\ccbgssse051-ba_daedricmail.esl
Alternative Armors - Daedric Plate\Creations\4233865-3.manifest
Alternative Armors - Daedric Plate\Data\ccbgssse050-ba_daedric.bsa
Alternative Armors - Daedric Plate\Data\ccbgssse050-ba_daedric.esl
Alternative Armors - Dragon Plate\Creations\4202984-3.manifest
Alternative Armors - Dragon Plate\Data\ccbgssse059-ba_dragonplate.bsa
Alternative Armors - Dragon Plate\Data\ccbgssse059-ba_dragonplate.esl
Alternative Armors - Dragonscale\Creations\4111002-4.manifest
Alternative Armors - Dragonscale\Data\ccbgssse060-ba_dragonscale.bsa
Alternative Armors - Dragonscale\Data\ccbgssse060-ba_dragonscale.esl
Alternative Armors - Dwarven Mail\Creations\4110989-4.manifest
Alternative Armors - Dwarven Mail\Data\ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail.bsa
Alternative Armors - Dwarven Mail\Data\ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail.esl
Alternative Armors - Dwarven Plate\Creations\4202980-3.manifest
Alternative Armors - Dwarven Plate\Data\ccbgssse061-ba_dwarven.bsa
Alternative Armors - Dwarven Plate\Data\ccbgssse061-ba_dwarven.esl
Alternative Armors - Ebony Plate\Creations\4135499-3.manifest
Alternative Armors - Ebony Plate\Data\ccbgssse063-ba_ebony.bsa
Alternative Armors - Ebony Plate\Data\ccbgssse063-ba_ebony.esl
Alternative Armors - Elven Hunter\Creations\4110999-4.manifest
Alternative Armors - Elven Hunter\Data\ccbgssse064-ba_elven.bsa
Alternative Armors - Elven Hunter\Data\ccbgssse064-ba_elven.esl
Alternative Armors - Iron\Creations\4183063-3.manifest
Alternative Armors - Iron\Data\ccbgssse052-ba_iron.bsa
Alternative Armors - Iron\Data\ccbgssse052-ba_iron.esl
Alternative Armors - Leather\Creations\4202976-3.manifest
Alternative Armors - Leather\Data\ccbgssse053-ba_leather.bsa
Alternative Armors - Leather\Data\ccbgssse053-ba_leather.esl
Alternative Armors - Orcish Plate\Creations\4202967-3.manifest
Alternative Armors - Orcish Plate\Data\ccbgssse054-ba_orcish.bsa
Alternative Armors - Orcish Plate\Data\ccbgssse054-ba_orcish.esl
Alternative Armors - Orcish Scaled\Creations\4202970-3.manifest
Alternative Armors - Orcish Scaled\Data\ccbgssse055-ba_orcishscaled.bsa
Alternative Armors - Orcish Scaled\Data\ccbgssse055-ba_orcishscaled.esl
Alternative Armors - Silver\Creations\4233861-3.manifest
Alternative Armors - Silver\Data\ccbgssse056-ba_silver.bsa
Alternative Armors - Silver\Data\ccbgssse056-ba_silver.esl
Alternative Armors - Stalhrim Fur\Creations\4110986-4.manifest
Alternative Armors - Stalhrim Fur\Data\ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim.bsa
Alternative Armors - Stalhrim Fur\Data\ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim.esl
Alternative Armors - Steel Soldier\Creations\4135493-3.manifest
Alternative Armors - Steel Soldier\Data\ccbgssse058-ba_steel.bsa
Alternative Armors - Steel Soldier\Data\ccbgssse058-ba_steel.esl
Arcane Accessories\Creations\4036206-6.manifest
Arcane Accessories\Data\ccbgssse014-spellpack01.bsa
Arcane Accessories\Data\ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl
Arcane Archer Pack\Creations\4036205-6.manifest
Arcane Archer Pack\Data\ccbgssse002-exoticarrows.bsa
Arcane Archer Pack\Data\ccbgssse002-exoticarrows.esl
Arms of Chaos\Creations\4098879-3.manifest
Arms of Chaos\Data\ccpewsse002-armsofchaos.bsa
Arms of Chaos\Data\ccpewsse002-armsofchaos.esl
Bittercup\Creations\4233858-3.manifest
Bittercup\Data\cckrtsse001_altar.bsa
Bittercup\Data\cckrtsse001_altar.esl
Bloodchill Manor\Creations\4233908-4.manifest
Bloodchill Manor\Data\cceejsse005-cave.bsa
Bloodchill Manor\Data\cceejsse005-cave.esm
Bone Wolf\Creations\4081273-7.manifest
Bone Wolf\Data\ccbgssse036-petbwolf.bsa
Bone Wolf\Data\ccbgssse036-petbwolf.esl
Bow of Shadows\Creations\4233914-3.manifest
Bow of Shadows\Data\ccbgssse038-bowofshadows.bsa
Bow of Shadows\Data\ccbgssse038-bowofshadows.esl
Camping\Creations\4059060-3.manifest
Camping\Data\ccqdrsse002-firewood.bsa
Camping\Data\ccqdrsse002-firewood.esl
Chrysamere\Creations\4036201-3.manifest
Chrysamere\Data\ccbgssse007-chrysamere.bsa
Chrysamere\Data\ccbgssse007-chrysamere.esl
Civil War Champions\Creations\4087496-5.manifest
Civil War Champions\Data\ccffbsse001-imperialdragon.bsa
Civil War Champions\Data\ccffbsse001-imperialdragon.esl
Dawnfang & Duskfang\Creations\4110980-7.manifest
Dawnfang & Duskfang\Data\ccbgssse013-dawnfang.bsa
Dawnfang & Duskfang\Data\ccbgssse013-dawnfang.esl
Dead Man's Dread\Creations\4135483-4.manifest
Dead Man's Dread\Data\ccbgssse031-advcyrus.bsa
Dead Man's Dread\Data\ccbgssse031-advcyrus.esm
Divine Crusader\Creations\4036197-4.manifest
Divine Crusader\Data\ccmtysse001-knightsofthenine.bsa
Divine Crusader\Data\ccmtysse001-knightsofthenine.esl
Dwarven Armored Mudcrab\Creations\4042550-3.manifest
Dwarven Armored Mudcrab\Data\ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.bsa
Dwarven Armored Mudcrab\Data\ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl
Elite Crossbows\Creations\4087499-3.manifest
Elite Crossbows\Data\ccbgssse043-crosselv.bsa
Elite Crossbows\Data\ccbgssse043-crosselv.esl
Expanded Crossbow Pack\Creations\4110983-3.manifest
Expanded Crossbow Pack\Data\ccffbsse002-crossbowpack.bsa
Expanded Crossbow Pack\Data\ccffbsse002-crossbowpack.esl
Farming\Creations\4233890-3.manifest
Farming\Data\ccvsvsse004-beafarmer.bsa
Farming\Data\ccvsvsse004-beafarmer.esl
Fearsome Fists\Creations\4202964-3.manifest
Fearsome Fists\Data\cccbhsse001-gaunt.bsa
Fearsome Fists\Data\cccbhsse001-gaunt.esl
Forgotten Seasons\Creations\4087487-6.manifest
Forgotten Seasons\Data\cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.bsa
Forgotten Seasons\Data\cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.esm
Gallows Hall\Creations\4233877-3.manifest
Gallows Hall\Data\ccrmssse001-necrohouse.bsa
Gallows Hall\Data\ccrmssse001-necrohouse.esl
Ghosts of the Tribunal\Creations\4233884-7.manifest
Ghosts of the Tribunal\Data\ccasvsse001-almsivi.bsa
Ghosts of the Tribunal\Data\ccasvsse001-almsivi.esm
Goblins\Creations\4135496-3.manifest
Goblins\Data\ccbgssse040-advobgobs.bsa
Goblins\Data\ccbgssse040-advobgobs.esl
Goldbrand\Creations\4233855-3.manifest
Goldbrand\Data\ccbgssse005-goldbrand.bsa
Goldbrand\Data\ccbgssse005-goldbrand.esl
Headman's Cleaver\Creations\4233893-3.manifest
Headman's Cleaver\Data\ccbgssse068-bloodfall.bsa
Headman's Cleaver\Data\ccbgssse068-bloodfall.esl
Hendraheim\Creations\4135479-3.manifest
Hendraheim\Data\cceejsse004-hall.bsa
Hendraheim\Data\cceejsse004-hall.esl
Horse Armor - Elven\Creations\4233868-3.manifest
Horse Armor - Elven\Data\ccbgssse011-hrsarmrelvn.bsa
Horse Armor - Elven\Data\ccbgssse011-hrsarmrelvn.esl
Horse Armor - Steel\Creations\4233871-3.manifest
Horse Armor - Steel\Data\ccbgssse012-hrsarmrstl.bsa
Horse Armor - Steel\Data\ccbgssse012-hrsarmrstl.esl
Lord's Mail\Creations\4042546-5.manifest
Lord's Mail\Data\ccbgssse021-lordsmail.bsa
Lord's Mail\Data\ccbgssse021-lordsmail.esl
Myrwatch\Creations\4078138-4.manifest
Myrwatch\Data\cceejsse002-tower.bsa
Myrwatch\Data\cceejsse002-tower.esl
Nchuanthumz - Dwarven Home\Creations\4233911-4.manifest
Nchuanthumz - Dwarven Home\Data\ccafdsse001-dwesanctuary.bsa
Nchuanthumz - Dwarven Home\Data\ccafdsse001-dwesanctuary.esm
Necromantic Grimoire\Creations\4233874-3.manifest
Necromantic Grimoire\Data\ccvsvsse003-necroarts.bsa
Necromantic Grimoire\Data\ccvsvsse003-necroarts.esl
Netch Leather Armor\Creations\4110977-4.manifest
Netch Leather Armor\Data\ccbgssse041-netchleather.bsa
Netch Leather Armor\Data\ccbgssse041-netchleather.esl
Nix-Hound\Creations\4059051-3.manifest
Nix-Hound\Data\ccbgssse035-petnhound.bsa
Nix-Hound\Data\ccbgssse035-petnhound.esl
Nordic Jewelry\Creations\4078134-3.manifest
Nordic Jewelry\Data\ccedhsse001-norjewel.bsa
Nordic Jewelry\Data\ccedhsse001-norjewel.esl
Pets of Skyrim\Creations\4078144-4.manifest
Pets of Skyrim\Data\ccvsvsse002-pets.bsa
Pets of Skyrim\Data\ccvsvsse002-pets.esl
Plague of the Dead\Creations\4036199-7.manifest
Plague of the Dead\Data\ccbgssse003-zombies.bsa
Plague of the Dead\Data\ccbgssse003-zombies.esl
Redguard Elite Armaments\Creations\4233904-3.manifest
Redguard Elite Armaments\Data\ccedhsse003-redguard.bsa
Redguard Elite Armaments\Data\ccedhsse003-redguard.esl
Ruin's Edge\Creations\4036200-5.manifest
Ruin's Edge\Data\ccbgssse004-ruinsedge.bsa
Ruin's Edge\Data\ccbgssse004-ruinsedge.esl
Saturalia Holiday Pack\Creations\4087490-4.manifest
Saturalia Holiday Pack\Data\ccvsvsse001-winter.bsa
Saturalia Holiday Pack\Data\ccvsvsse001-winter.esl
Shadowfoot Sanctum\Creations\4098870-4.manifest
Shadowfoot Sanctum\Data\cceejsse003-hollow.bsa
Shadowfoot Sanctum\Data\cceejsse003-hollow.esl
Shadowrend\Creations\4059064-4.manifest
Shadowrend\Data\ccbgssse018-shadowrend.bsa
Shadowrend\Data\ccbgssse018-shadowrend.esl
Spell Knight Armor\Creations\4098885-4.manifest
Spell Knight Armor\Data\ccedhsse002-splkntset.bsa
Spell Knight Armor\Data\ccedhsse002-splkntset.esl
Staff of Hasedoki\Creations\4081276-7.manifest
Staff of Hasedoki\Data\ccbgssse045-hasedoki.bsa
Staff of Hasedoki\Data\ccbgssse045-hasedoki.esl
Staff of Sheogorath\Creations\4036203-4.manifest
Staff of Sheogorath\Data\ccbgssse019-staffofsheogorath.bsa
Staff of Sheogorath\Data\ccbgssse019-staffofsheogorath.esl
Staves\Creations\4233899-3.manifest
Staves\Data\ccbgssse066-staves.bsa
Staves\Data\ccbgssse066-staves.esl
Stendarr's Hammer\Creations\4036204-3.manifest
Stendarr's Hammer\Data\ccbgssse006-stendarshammer.bsa
Stendarr's Hammer\Data\ccbgssse006-stendarshammer.esl
Sunder & Wraithguard\Creations\4087502-4.manifest
Sunder & Wraithguard\Data\ccbgssse008-wraithguard.bsa
Sunder & Wraithguard\Data\ccbgssse008-wraithguard.esl
The Cause\Creations\4233887-4.manifest
The Cause\Data\ccbgssse067-daedinv.bsa
The Cause\Data\ccbgssse067-daedinv.esm
The Contest\Creations\4233896-3.manifest
The Contest\Data\ccbgssse069-contest.bsa
The Contest\Data\ccbgssse069-contest.esl
The Gray Cowl Returns!\Creations\4135463-3.manifest
The Gray Cowl Returns!\Data\ccbgssse020-graycowl.bsa
The Gray Cowl Returns!\Data\ccbgssse020-graycowl.esl
Tundra Homestead\Creations\4059054-4.manifest
Tundra Homestead\Data\cceejsse001-hstead.bsa
Tundra Homestead\Data\cceejsse001-hstead.esm
Umbra\Creations\4098882-3.manifest
Umbra\Data\ccbgssse016-umbra.bsa
Umbra\Data\ccbgssse016-umbra.esm
Vigil Enforcer Armor Set\Creations\4087493-5.manifest
Vigil Enforcer Armor Set\Data\ccmtysse002-ve.bsa
Vigil Enforcer Armor Set\Data\ccmtysse002-ve.esl
Wild Horses\Creations\4078130-4.manifest
Wild Horses\Data\ccbgssse034-mntuni.bsa
Wild Horses\Data\ccbgssse034-mntuni.esl

Every creation consists of exactly 3 files. I've sorted them for you by name and with folders. Just remove those 3 files for every creation you want to uninstall.

[bLaCkShAd0w]

ccafdsse001-dwesanctuary.esm
ccasvsse001-almsivi.esm
ccbgssse001-fish.esm
ccbgssse016-umbra.esm
ccbgssse025-advdsgs.esm
ccbgssse031-advcyrus.esm
ccbgssse067-daedinv.esm
cceejsse001-hstead.esm
cceejsse005-cave.esm
cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.esm

I have exactly 10 and have never purchased any creations outside of the AE upgrade. Not sure why everyone is stating a different number of .esm's,

[th]

Originally posted by bLaCkShAd0w:

ccafdsse001-dwesanctuary.esm
ccasvsse001-almsivi.esm
ccbgssse001-fish.esm
ccbgssse016-umbra.esm
ccbgssse025-advdsgs.esm
ccbgssse031-advcyrus.esm
ccbgssse067-daedinv.esm
cceejsse001-hstead.esm
cceejsse005-cave.esm
cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.esm

I have exactly 10 and have never purchased any creations outside of the AE upgrade.

What does that mean? All creations are part of the AE DLC except those which are now in the base game. 74 total. 4 are now in the base game. 70 are in the AE DLC. There are no more.

[bLaCkShAd0w]

Originally posted by th:

Originally posted by bLaCkShAd0w:

ccafdsse001-dwesanctuary.esm
ccasvsse001-almsivi.esm
ccbgssse001-fish.esm
ccbgssse016-umbra.esm
ccbgssse025-advdsgs.esm
ccbgssse031-advcyrus.esm
ccbgssse067-daedinv.esm
cceejsse001-hstead.esm
cceejsse005-cave.esm
cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.esm

I have exactly 10 and have never purchased any creations outside of the AE upgrade.

What does that mean? All creations are part of the AE DLC except those which are now in the base game. 74 total. 4 are now in the base game. 70 are in the AE DLC. There are no more.

I don't know but we are going from 8-11 for answers...