NMM vs Vortex

[GreedRecycler]

I have always wondered what the main difference and experience was using Vortex, compared to Nexus Mod Manager.

Everyone I've ever met modding using Vortex swears by it, and would generally say that they can't ever imagine going back to using NMM. I have personally been using NMM all these years, even when switching to special edition from Oldrim. I have consistently read in forums in LL and Steam, that NMM is inferior due to having a host of problems, that Vortex does not suffer from. I would like to know more specifically what kinds of problems come with using NMM.

I use tool and have some tools linked to my NMM such as Bodyslider, FNIS then replacing it with Project Nemisis, Loot, HavokBehaviorPostProcess and PoserDataGen, not all of these are linked to NMM, but I have no issues with that. All these mods downloaded having used NMM (Some manual, but 95% is using NMM). Suffice to say, I am experiencing the "full" modding experience, all the while devoid of running into problems that I believe are "specific" to using NMM.

I would like to hear your experience using your mod manager, regardless of whether you use NMM, Vortex or the other alternatives. Your pros and cons, and why you have changed, or settled with your choices.

[Futa Fanatic]

hated vortex, its to complicated for its own good -.- thats why i stuck with nmm

[GreedRecycler]

Originally posted by Game->Killah!!:

hated vortex, its to complicated for its own good -.- thats why i stuck with nmm

That's funny because I hear from my friends that they believe Vortex is more simpler compared to NMM. It might be just a case of preference, instead of actual difference in convenient layout.

[Vlad 254]

Been using Vortex since Alpha and it has become a very Powerful Mod Manager.

NMM is only Community Supported where Vortex is the official Mod manager of Nexus Mods and is fully supported by them.

this should answer your questions
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1977191236

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by GreedRecycler:

Originally posted by Game->Killah!!:

hated vortex, its to complicated for its own good -.- thats why i stuck with nmm

That's funny because I hear from my friends that they believe Vortex is more simpler compared to NMM. It might be just a case of preference, instead of actual difference in convenient layout.

Vortex is very easy to learn

[smr1957]

The main reason is that NMM is no longer officially supported, which, should there be problems, it is entirely on the community to fix - and is thus a use at own risk situation. But, that aside, NMM did have issues even before Vortex was designed - and that was one of the reason for Vortex.

One of the main things was that on occasion, it would not completely uninstall mods, but would leave files behind - a royal pain to have to deal with.

Another, was the lack of - or, to put it another way, the extremely poor implementation of a profile system - so poor that it should not be used. And, the implementation of this system also led to other things failing - like mods showing as being disabled when they were not, often necessitating the complete uninstallation of an entire build, and the subsequent reinstallation. Then there is the matter that people needed to remember on their own what mods and what files were overwriting others - not an issue if you are experienced, but a problem for those who may not be - in Vortex, this is all indicated and shown in the manager dashboard - thus making things much more obvious and user friendly - especially for the new modder.

Others will post about other advantages, but that is, at least, a start.
(And though I use NMM myself, I DO NOT recommend that others do.)

EDIT - see that others have already posted while I was writing that!

[ShelLuser]

Never tried NMM myself but started with Vortex; I immediately enjoyed its simplicity (for example having LOOT embedded so that you can concentrate on your mods instead of the tech behind it) and it just works.

I also enjoyed profiling; the ability to use different mod collections next to each other. Then I discovered that it also easily supported my other Steam games and I stopped bothering.

[GreedRecycler]

Originally posted by Vlad 254:

Been using Vortex since Alpha and it has become a very Powerful Mod Manager.

NMM is only Community Supported where Vortex is the official Mod manager of Nexus Mods and is fully supported by them.

this should answer your questions
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1977191236

Thanks, probably should have searched for that before posting here. I'll be sure to give it a read.

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by GreedRecycler:

Thanks, probably should have searched for that before posting here. I'll be sure to give it a read.

Any questions let us know

[GreedRecycler]

Originally posted by ShelLuser:

Never tried NMM myself but started with Vortex; I immediately enjoyed its simplicity (for example having LOOT embedded so that you can concentrate on your mods instead of the tech behind it) and it just works.

I also enjoyed profiling; the ability to use different mod collections next to each other. Then I discovered that it also easily supported my other Steam games and I stopped bothering.

I personally have used Vortex for other games such as Baldur's Gate 3's EA, and Cyberpunk 3 (If you're wondering why I don't have it in my account, it's because I have it on GOG). It's just that I was wondering if it was worth the effort, of having to switch to Vortex from NMM, would it take a whole day or two to do so? I have taken some mods from Oldrim, that aren't available in Nexus's SE pages, so would those mods be affected?

I mean this all boils down to never having used Vortex, and the fear of the unknown. As someone who has been playing and modding Skyrim for years, the most painful feeling is when you break your game, due to dumb choices in modding. And I am fearful of that happening, if I were to switch and try to transfer mods to Vortex. Again correct me if I am wrong, because I have only ever installed a few mods on Vortex, therefore my experience is limited.

[smr1957]

Originally posted by Vlad 254:

Been using Vortex since Alpha and it has become a very Powerful Mod Manager.

NMM is only Community Supported where Vortex is the official Mod manager of Nexus Mods and is fully supported by them.

this should answer your questions
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1977191236

Why I hadn't already done so, I don't know, but just added it to my pinned topic Helpful Links and References, Section 3, Tools, Load Order, and Mod Cleaning

[alexander_dougherty]

The main problem with NMM is it isn't supported by Nexus, meaning unless you have the community version you can't automatically download and install the mods...

And any updates have to come from the community, which means they are behind the updates of MO2 and Vortex, and might not work as well, because the community programmers are amatuers.... skilled amatuers but they lack the resources and insider knowledge needed.

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by GreedRecycler:

It's just that I was wondering if it was worth the effort, of having to switch to Vortex from NMM, would it take a whole day or two to do so? I have taken some mods from Oldrim, that aren't available in Nexus's SE pages, so would those mods be affected?

This should be a simple transfer from NMM to Vortex which I believe is covered in the Guide but if not you can find the directions inside the Vortex Knowledge Base.

What I would do and always do whenever I start a new load order is a "Clean Vanilla Reinstall" of SSE to ensure that you are, well, starting clean. This would also give you the perfect opportunity to move SSE (and Steam for that matter) out of Program Files if it's not already.

Michael of GamePoets does a great job of explaining a Clean Vanilla Reinstall in this 2 minute Video which must be followed to the letter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g67CnHD1wvY

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by smr1957:

Originally posted by Vlad 254:

Been using Vortex since Alpha and it has become a very Powerful Mod Manager.

NMM is only Community Supported where Vortex is the official Mod manager of Nexus Mods and is fully supported by them.

this should answer your questions
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1977191236

Why I hadn't already done so, I don't know, but just added it to my pinned topic Helpful Links and References, Section 3, Tools, Load Order, and Mod Cleaning

Nice

[lizrdfishr]

Vortex has a button to import from NMM.

Vortex has a button to download and install SKSE64.

IMO this is why Vortex is superior to NMM. For anything I need to do, Vortex has a button.

Skyrim is a blast. Skyrim VR is the absolute shiznit. I bought SE to learn how to mod VR but at the end of the day, I would rather play the game than tinker with mods.

Vortex gets me playing faster than NMM.

I'm sure some modders here do all sorts of rocket science that is beyond Vortex, but until I can channel Vlad or smr or Avrie, Vortex has all the buttons I need.

[smr1957]

Funny thing is, used to see a lot of people say that NMM is for beginners as it is so simple to use. My take has always been the opposite - that it is only for very advanced users with a lot of experience, as so much has to be done in your head, and so much needs to be remembered.