Dark Brotherhood fate

[Carbohydrated Caretaker]

In my second play through I decided to destroy the Dark Brotherhood which now made me wonder, what is the fate of the Dark Brotherhood?
as far as I know only Cicero and Babette are still alive and I'm guessing Cicero would definitely go even more insane when he finds out this sanctuary is also destroyed. I'm not too familiar with the lore so I'm guessing these were the last group of DB left. I'm also guessing that DB would make a comeback but not in a very long time. Perhaps Aventus Aretino??

[SpeedFreak1972]

Well it also depends what the lore will be for the next TES ... destroyed or murdered the emperor ... guess we'll have to wait till TES VI if the DB returns.

[alexander_dougherty]

Dark Brotherhood could easily die out.... however Sithis is still out there, theoretically he could recreate then at any later date, it just takes one slightly unhinged individual for it to happen...

[Carbohydrated Caretaker]

Nguyên văn bởi alexander_dougherty:

Dark Brotherhood could easily die out.... however Sithis is still out there, theoretically he could recreate then at any later date, it just takes one slightly unhinged individual for it to happen...

thats what i was thinking. they cant truly die out since Sithis is.. well Sithis but they have been very unpopular which they desperately needed that emperor's assassination to make a name again. ngl the DB in Skyrim really hit the emotions.

[Carbohydrated Caretaker]

Nguyên văn bởi SpeedFreak1972:

Well it also depends what the lore will be for the next TES ... destroyed or murdered the emperor ... guess we'll have to wait till TES VI if the DB returns.

I was thinking, and just to let you know I don't know much about history and lore of TES, wouldn't it be impossible to create a TES VI if they were to continue from where Skyrim left off. I mean I chose to destroy the DB but someone else joined and killed the emperor. unless they make the game in a way were they ask about the choices you made so the story is adjusted to you but at the same time which one is canon.
what I'm trying to say is overall I don't think there will be any mentions of events that had 2 outcomes IF there were to be a TES VI.

but i might as well be talking out of my A$$ because i just confused myself :).

[alexander_dougherty]

Nguyên văn bởi Carbohydrated Caretaker:

Nguyên văn bởi SpeedFreak1972:

Well it also depends what the lore will be for the next TES ... destroyed or murdered the emperor ... guess we'll have to wait till TES VI if the DB returns.

I was thinking, and just to let you know I don't know much about history and lore of TES, wouldn't it be impossible to create a TES VI if they were to continue from where Skyrim left off. I mean I chose to destroy the DB but someone else joined and killed the emperor. unless they make the game in a way were they ask about the choices you made so the story is adjusted to you but at the same time which one is canon.
what I'm trying to say is overall I don't think there will be any mentions of events that had 2 outcomes IF there were to be a TES VI.

but i might as well be talking out of my A$$ because i just confused myself :).

I doubt it, I don't think the save files are formated in enough detail to allow you to continue where you left off. Not to mention the fact 99% of the players play with mods, whose data is in the save file... would make reading the relevant details problematic...

And that's before you get to the whole "it's never been done in a TES game before" factor, people want to start a new game without worrying about the past games.

[fauxpas]

First things first is that the DB's Sithis is almost certainly not the "real impersonal embodiment of entropy" and is instead one of of the Princes playing both sides.


The second thing to consider is that Beth's "canon" (yes, I couldn't hold back a giggle as I typed that either) follows a simple set of rules.

The MC completes the main quest, including all the DLCs.


The Guild Quests are completed by someone, who may or may not be the MC.


So this means the last Dragonborn is HM's plaything, Emperor Meed dies, the Companions are cured, and weird ♥♥♥♥ happened at the Mage Academy.


Now, the thing that will be interesting to see how it fits in thier rules is the Civil War, but I'd wager that it's rendered completely moot by outside events and advantaging the timeline further than necessary.

[lukandroll]

For all we know, the empire could be in ruins in TES VI, even dismantled
Or maybe the Dovahkiin lives to forge a new empire
Posibilities are endless

[MysticMalevolence]

Well, even if you destroy the DB, Babette and Cicero escape. So there's an out for Bethesda to bring back the DB.
There was another assassin on the Katariah, so Mede dies anyways--political schemer isn't going to stop scheming just because his preferred assassin guild isn't available.

The suggestion that Sithis is a Daedric Prince is Morag Tong propaganda!

[Ihateeverybody]

"The suggestion that Sithis is a Daedric Prince is Morag Tong propaganda!"

You do know that the Dark Brotherhood DERIVED from the Morag Tong right?

I mean, It would be like Brian Herbert contradicting Frank's stories (which considering I never read of any of Brian's is more than likely (Dune Series for those who wondered what I am talking about).

But anyway. The writer will do what the writer will do.

Sure Dragons haven't been seen for thousands of years....except you know. The ones that have been seen in the last few hundred. All Emperors were dragonborn......for 3 eras....we just never mentioned it before. Certainly no Emperor managed to stumble up to his OWN Battlemage Acadamy and have a conversation with the dragon there....NOPE. To busy going through portals to the Daedric Brothals that their Imperial Battlemage Jagar Tharn opened up for them.

They really need to stop with this chosen one ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. It is just annoying. In my day we didn't need to be ordained by a god to save the #($*ing Empire. I had to Re-assemble the staff of Chaos while travelling Uphill. Did any god help me get the Nu Mantella? No, they tried to charge me 200 gold for a #($*ing diesese potion....

(All right, I am done Old man Rambling).

[Von Faustien]

Nguyên văn bởi alexander_dougherty:

Nguyên văn bởi Carbohydrated Caretaker:

I was thinking, and just to let you know I don't know much about history and lore of TES, wouldn't it be impossible to create a TES VI if they were to continue from where Skyrim left off. I mean I chose to destroy the DB but someone else joined and killed the emperor. unless they make the game in a way were they ask about the choices you made so the story is adjusted to you but at the same time which one is canon.
what I'm trying to say is overall I don't think there will be any mentions of events that had 2 outcomes IF there were to be a TES VI.

but i might as well be talking out of my A$$ because i just confused myself :).

I doubt it, I don't think the save files are formated in enough detail to allow you to continue where you left off. Not to mention the fact 99% of the players play with mods, whose data is in the save file... would make reading the relevant details problematic...

And that's before you get to the whole "it's never been done in a TES game before" factor, people want to start a new game without worrying about the past games.

yep beth will literately brake the laws of space time before they commit to making any specific play choice canon. the odds of a save file import or direct references to the dragon beyond some vague comments is zero

[Mr. Monday]

Nguyên văn bởi alexander_dougherty:

Nguyên văn bởi Carbohydrated Caretaker:

I was thinking, and just to let you know I don't know much about history and lore of TES, wouldn't it be impossible to create a TES VI if they were to continue from where Skyrim left off. I mean I chose to destroy the DB but someone else joined and killed the emperor. unless they make the game in a way were they ask about the choices you made so the story is adjusted to you but at the same time which one is canon.
what I'm trying to say is overall I don't think there will be any mentions of events that had 2 outcomes IF there were to be a TES VI.

but i might as well be talking out of my A$$ because i just confused myself :).

I doubt it, I don't think the save files are formated in enough detail to allow you to continue where you left off. Not to mention the fact 99% of the players play with mods, whose data is in the save file... would make reading the relevant details problematic...

And that's before you get to the whole "it's never been done in a TES game before" factor, people want to start a new game without worrying about the past games.

Using the save file could be problematic, however going off of the global achievements list might work. For example, the With Friends Like These… achievement has a 36.8% completion rating in Oldrim on Steam. So Bethesda could say that since the majority of players didn't join the DB then in ES6 history the Dragonborn wiped out the DB.

Granted it's not exactly the same thing as what Caretaker was describing, but it would be an easier solution than having to deal with modded saves.

[~ Fabulous ~]

Nguyên văn bởi SpeedFreak1972:

Well it also depends what the lore will be for the next TES ... destroyed or murdered the emperor ... guess we'll have to wait till TES VI if the DB returns.

wasnt the es6 set during the same time as skyrim but at different place

[Ihateeverybody]

Well the Easiest is they just don't address it at all. Iheard the Neverine went on an expedition to Akavir.

I heard the Eternal Champion opened up a stable on Yokuda (PROVE I AM WRONG).

The Imperial Agent (Daggerfall) tripped and fell in the wrothgarian mountains and plummeted to their death (That was when the Levitate spell became inoperable).

TES VI: I heard the Dragonborn is doing a show at the Old Hroldan Inn, 2 shows a night. 3 On Sundus. Right after the All Nude Thalmor Revue.

[Sabaithal]

Considering TESV was 200 years after TESIV, its not unreasonable to imagine that the next game (if there is one) could be even further ahead.

Or, more likely given how gaming trends are going right now (to my dismay), a prequel set 1k years or so prior to TESV or some ♥♥♥♥, because the writers can't be bothered to write a proper canon using the BS excuse "it would render the player's decisions meaningless, boohoo."

[DrNewcenstein]

I thought ESO was the prequel?

At any rate, I don't know how The Witcher 3 reads W2 save data to apply to 3, and you can mod those. I guess it depends on how the save file is structured; what parts will always be vanilla and what info is stored there, etc., which would make no difference in regards to mods.

DB will survive, it's a recurring theme. Unless it is replaced by the Morag Tong, or Camonna Tong, or Salad Tong. But then I think those are region/race specific (and Morag Tong already made an appearance in Skyrim, but you never know).

Will we see the Fighters Guild or another replacement similar to the Companions?
Will we see the Mages Guild or another replacement like the College of Weinerhold?
Will we see a completely new sort of faction, maybe one that's devoted to technological advancement like the Dwemer, but not?
Will we see a more structured region like the Imperial City/Cyrodiil, or will it have more wilderness and less development than Skyrim? One huge major city, 3 surrounding villages, and 40 million square miles of jungle/swamp/desert/water? Or will we just see like a strip mall capitol city in the middle of the Gobi Desert?