One of my mods is causing my weapons to float off of my body. Please help.

[Patrick.H]

I can't tell if it is the xp32 skeleton or what but unless I disable all of my plugins most of my weapons will float off of my body when sheathed. Swords from multiple mods including the sheathed great-swords from Leanwolf's mod and single handed swords from immersive weapons. The iron axe seems to be properly placed.

I don't want to use the solution of the race menu mod as I don't know if more problems will arise and I'll have to fix them again, and it doesn't help the npcs effected.

-- Perhaps most importantly the weapons will sometime flicker back into an attached position for a split second before floating again and while I am naked or have only cloth on instead of armor, then the weapon is attached. --

I also noticed that when I die or an npc dies, the sheath for the great-swords with reattach and slightly clip into the armor, almost like it's trying to go to the vanilla distance or something.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

My load order:

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

6 6 Improved Dragon Shouts - All.esm

7 7 EFFCore.esm

8 8 BSAssets.esm

9 9 BSHeartland.esm

10 a arnima.esm

11 b BS_DLC_patch.esp

12 c JSwordsD.esm

13 d Wyrmstooth.esp

14 e SkyUI_SE.esp

15 f Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp

16 10 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp

254 FE 0 AOS_ISC_Integration.esp

17 11 CBBE.esp

18 12 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

19 13 The Great City of Winterhold.esp

20 14 The Great City of Falkreath.esp

21 15 OBIS SE.esp

22 16 AVExpansion.esp

23 17 LC_BuildYourNobleHouse.esp

24 18 Skyrim Bridges.esp

25 19 The Great City of Dawnstar.esp

26 1a ClefJ's Karthwasten.esp

27 1b morthal.esp

28 1c SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

29 1d OwnCivilWar.esp

30 1e Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

31 1f JKs Windhelm.esp

32 20 Clockwork.esp

33 21 Immersive Encounters.esp

34 22 Run For Your Lives.esp

35 23 The Great City of Rorikstead.esp

254 FE 1 BSHeartland - Unofficial Patch.esp

36 24 Immersive Patrols II.esp

37 25 fortdawnguardimmersive.esp

38 26 bs bruma corrections (pc).esp

39 27 ElderOutfit-NoBijin.esp

40 28 RaceMenu.esp

41 29 XPMSE.esp

42 2a RaceMenuPlugin.esp

43 2b No Sidestepping.esp

44 2c icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp

45 2d EFFStandCosMenu.esp

46 2e EFFDialogue.esp

47 2f Immersive Weapons.esp

Lydiamodspatch.esp

254 FE 2 JSwords-ImmersiveWeaponsPatch.esp

48 30 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

254 FE 3 RoriksteadBasaltCliffs.esp

49 31 SofiaFollower.esp

50 32 Soljund's Sinkhole.esp

51 33 OldHroldanRuins.esp

52 34 Bells of Skyrim.esp

53 35 Bells of Skyrim - JKs Skyrim Patch.esp

254 FE 4 BlowWarHorn.esp

54 36 Improved Dragon Shouts - All.esp

55 37 KS Hairdo's.esp

56 38 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

57 39 Walk Like a Woman.esp

58 3a Open Face Guard Helmets.esp

59 3b True Neutral Whiterun Guards.esp

60 3c PickDefaultFollowerArmor.esp

61 3d ConfigureCommentaryRate.esp

254 FE 5 DibellaStatuesFixes.esp

62 3e General Sam Final.esp

Kak'Thu Follower.esp

254 FE 6 Beyond Skyrim - Bruma - Guard Cloaks.esp

254 FE 7 BSHeartland - Arnima Patch.esp

63 3f icebladeofthemonarch.esp

64 40 giftsofakatosh.esp

254 FE 8 IFDImmPatrolsIIPatch.esp

254 FE 9 AutoHideAmmo.esp

65 41 DragonBoneEbonsteel.esp

66 42 FNIS.esp

67 43 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

[SpeedFreak1972]

It can be a number be a number of things, but we need a loadorder to see what mod it can be ... now it's guessing.

[Ihateeverybody]

You say its the xp32 skeliton. Lets verify. Is it this mod?

XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended - XPMSSE
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1988

If so. Have you run FNIS for users lately? Does it report any issues?

If nothing is wrong there. Are you using Racemenu or another Character Customization Mod?

If so which one and are you using the correct XPMSSE Plugin for that mod? Have you checked the Weapons Tab in Character Customization and see if everything is set to default (All set to 0 or 1 depending on the field).

Do you have style randomizer active in the XPMSSE MCM Configuration? I usually have it off and cloak spell disabled (Heed the warning about being in a isloated interior cell when disabling).

These are only some of the things to check. These are the ones that I would do first.

A load order list would help indeed.

[Patrick.H]

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

A load order list would help indeed.

Thanks for the reply, I was having trouble getting anything on reddit.

Yes that is the skeleton I am using, FNIS is giving 1 warning for the 2 mods that it says it has generated for. I have the Racemenu mod. I went through the settings in-game and all of the weapon setting were at default and style randomizer was off. I should also say that I had the enhanced character edit mod installed but uninstalled it recently before starting a new game. I added my load order to my post. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/19080

[Patrick.H]

Originally posted by SpeedFreak1972:

It can be a number be a number of things, but we need a loadorder to see what mod it can be ... now it's guessing.

Thanks for the reply, I just added it in.

[Ihateeverybody]

So the behaviour you are describing, well, lets talk about the floating off your body. Is it a slight float or is it extreme?

Slight: Weapon is attached to the right place, but you can discern space between it and the body less than 1 foot (or 1/3rd of a meter)

Extreme: At an incorrect location or at an extremely off angle. Or both.

I mean I am just so use to adjusting things in racemenu (and most of is done and recorded on the presets I have made over the years, so I rarely have to. New Characters being created off existing presets).

Now my biggest concern is the Style Randomizer or worse the Style All toggles in the MCM for XPMSSE. I don't think I have ever used them so I wonder if you do. I know they are system intensive and my concern where NPCs put their weapons is nil.

The flickering sounds like normal lag as the game loads up a save or a weapon is equipped for the first time that play session. When i first start playing (a save, not a new start) it sometimes takes a few seconds to never for things to align where I set them. If it doesn't seem to be setting I will switch or clear my hands and try again after a minute or so. I mean sometimes things just get stuck.

If you are getting consistent oddities, there may be other issues you need to deal with. Lessening your System load.

Maybe someone else will have better advice for you. All the above is just things to think about based on my experience.

[Patrick.H]

Yeah, the weapon is still in the right location it is just even more detached than what vanilla is, it's probably half a foot off from the body. This is when I wear armor, when I have clothing on the weapon attatches even closer than vanilla and looks really nice, which would seem to me to be from a weapon mod.

I don't recall ever using the style randomizer, I hardly ever interact with the MCM menu.

I don't know anything about mods though so I couldn't tell if one mod is trying to make the weapon stick, another has something with the armor that makes it stick out, or what the problem is.

Also, both when I disable all of my plugins and with them enabled my 2 handed weapons clip right through my quiver for my arrows. I can't remember what it's supposed to look like anymore to know if its off center or sticking too close.

Do you mean that you save presets and then use them again in other playthroughs? I did try using the racemenu to move the weapons inward but the then they clip into my back when I'm naked and that concerns me about what they might do with other armors.

[Patrick.H]

Update: I found a post describing a similar sounding set of problems, and as they described if I play as a female then the weapons are fine, it's something to do with the male body. There also isn't any flicking back and forth with the female.

So I think it has something to do with Cbbe, Xp32, Hdt, or their interactions with my armor mods like the immersive armors bodyslide version.

Do you have any knowledge or idea as to what the problem might be? It's hard to even find the right order of words for a google search.

[Sabaithal]

Reinstall XP32, and make sure its actually up to date. Older versions have less complex skeletons that are not all compatible with newer mods.

If its the most recent version, the installer for it should give you the option to use the MCM menu (which I highly recommend, you can change animation styles in game, much more convenient).

[EASY PETE]

Hard for me to say

[Ihateeverybody]

"Do you mean that you save presets and then use them again in other playthroughs? I did try using the racemenu to move the weapons inward but the then they clip into my back when I'm naked and that concerns me about what they might do with other armors."

Yeah I save all my characters. When I make new ones I alter facial and body to a new character and save that. They usually carry the Weapon section offsets with them. If I am making a preset to apply to NPC I have to be mindful to go in an zero any settings I made so that they don't affect the NPC. Again I don't use the Style Randomizer (which applies a random style*) or the Style All feature (which applies your setting or Style choices to NPCs)

*Style being in this case the weapon placement; I.E daggers on hip or Daggers on lower back or daggers on Boots (left and right being individually designated for any).

Do make sure all your stuff is up to date, New mods come out daily and likely they use the latest and greatest. I have had some 3ba armors not work right because I didn't have the latest 3ba version and or Bodyslide/Outfit Studio.