Does Skyrim work correctly above 60 fps?

[Khorne Flakes]

I'm considering buying it, but I've seen that the game is capped at 60fps and has some glitches when uncapped.

Yet, I found this mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/34705?tab=description

Can someone tell me if it works?

[smr1957]

In short, no.

This constantly comes up and we repeat the same answer - but people just don't want to listen.

The thing is, that most people look at the FPS issue as a visual one - they do not understand that the real issue is not the visuals, it is the underlying things that can't be seen, the fact that EVERYTHING in the game is tied to the FPS - quests, timelines, NPC behavior, the AI, etc. And, any deiviations from what is expected by the game is applied each time the screen refreshes - the greater the amount that you exceed 60 FPS by, the faster the errors accumulate.

The game is not designed to exceed 60 FPS. Issues will occur - even if you do not see them. Exceeding 60 is done at your own risk and is not supported. Should you encounter problems with your game, we will not be able to help.

All that being said, there is nothing to stop you from using settings that allow you to exceed 60 FPS - the game is yours to play and/or break as you wish.

There is also this, as Ilja just posted in another discussion today:

"With vanilla settings, game grants 1.2ms per 16.7ms frame for any scripts to complete itself. Frame time is naturally tied to FPS and given value is for 60fps. Higher values will cut down the frame time in progressive manner, so that it is only 8.35ms in 120fps. That does not leave a lot of time for game functions.

With 144hz and 144fpd game would be left very little time to execute scripts.

Uncapping mods may solve Physics issues, but PapyrusVM still grants script time per frame.

So, yeah. Those solutions are not going to work well over long playthrough."

https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/2989791584218501943/#c2989791584219179341

[Khorne Flakes]

Well, that's a dealbreaker for me. A pity.

[smr1957]

There is nothing in the game that really requires the FPS to be above 60 - in fact, the game was originally made for console and 30 FPS. What the FPS is is really totally irrelevant to the game itself and as to making a decision to buy it - most people get it for the open world and sandboxing nature of the game and it's ability to be modded in the extreme. So, if FPS is a prime consideration for you, than no, the game would most likely not fit your bill.

[Khorne Flakes]

Originally posted by smr1957:

There is nothing in the game that really requires the FPS to be above 60 - in fact, the game was originally made for console and 30 FPS. What the FPS is is really totally irrelevant to the game itself and as to making a decision to buy it - most people get it for the open world and sandboxing nature of the game and it's ability to be modded in the extreme. So, if FPS is a prime consideration for you, than no, the game would most likely not fit your bill.

Many people don't understand the need to have more than 60 fps, but if you are spoilt by a 144hz monitor and used to 90+ fps, then 60 fps is an eyesore. Believe me, I did try to play at 60 fps, but I just can't. Everything looks so jaggy when moving around.

[kdodds]

You can't make sense to people who think they're "super seers". I just chuckle when they say they can't look at anything under XXXfps (usually 120+). Really. Must suck never having played a console, watched TV, been to a movie... A consistent frame rate, even in demanding FPS games, is way more important than # of frames. The - competitively anyway - only legit "complaint" is more related to I/O "lag" while waiting for anims to complete than any actual visual aesthetic. And that's where those "dealbreaker" comments come in. They're just parroted trope from "gamers" who want to appear "cool". You'll also hear them say, "poorly optimized", "casual", "console port", and "overhyped" A LOT when discussing games. /rant - sorry bored waiting for a d/l to finish.

[class101 [OLED deck]]

I understand your feeling I have an two monitors here and one is 1440p 144Hz and you clearly see a difference if you downgrade to 60 Hz with the same resolution.

But on the 1080p monitor, 60 fps is not really a big deal.

So I think for a best experience with this old game, it is best to downgrade your desktop resolution to 1080p and play 60 fps rather than keeping the default 1440p at 60 fps

[kdodds]

Oh, yeah, and "spoiled" by their one-percenter 144hz rig. LOL. Please.

[Khorne Flakes]

Have you actually ever played at 144hz monitor with, say, 100 fps? Or was it just a random rant from boredom? Movies have nothing to do here, by the way.
Come to think of it, it's weird that actually people saying that high frame rate is BS usually kick up the biggest fuss.

[smr1957]

Well, for Skyrim it is not so much a question of how it looks, but how it plays (though, obviously for some, how they perceive it will be the deciding factor - and there really should be no issue on anyone else's part to criticize - everyone has different priorities).

[Ryezee]

dont listen to them they are like 30+ year olds who literally couldnt see above 60 fps if they tried, 60 fps to 120 or 144 fps is literally mind blowing in terms of the visual experience.

[smr1957]

Originally posted by Ryezee:

dont listen to them they are like 30+ year olds who literally couldnt see above 60 fps if they tried, 60 fps to 120 or 144 fps is literally mind blowing in terms of the visual experience.

When it comes to Skyrim the only thing to be blown is the game. This is as good a place as any to refer people to whom to listen to when it comes to Skyrim and the forums, since It can be confusing to determine whom to listen to on these forums, especially for someone new. In the pinned topic Helpful Links and References, see Section 6, Miscellaneous - Reliable Forum Regulars, for a list and explanation.

(Also, keep in mind that for other games high FPS may be desired and works - as they are designed for that - Skyrim is not.)

[ElanaAhova]

Originally posted by Vughenhal:

Well, that's a dealbreaker for me. A pity.

Consider this. You can 'run' Skyrim at a higher frame rate. I've done it -- and the screen rips apart. There are several types of higher end monitors that address the screen tearing issue. Its true, higher FPS produce a higher quality visual experience - if the program is designed for that speed. Skyrim isn't. As the posts above indicate -- running Skyrim at frame rates significantly above 60 FPS will muddle other aspects of gameplay. I tried -- not worth it.

[kdodds]

Originally posted by Vughenhal:

Have you actually ever played at 144hz monitor with, say, 100 fps? Or was it just a random rant from boredom? Movies have nothing to do here, by the way.
Come to think of it, it's weird that actually people saying that high frame rate is BS usually kick up the biggest fuss.

I have. Gives you better twitch performance, more i/o per second. None of which are issue for Skyrim type games. Smoothness/consistency is far more important. If you see "hitchiness" in 60fps, you would also see it in movies, television. But, you know, if you're incapable of such a simple adaptation, I guess, you know, survival of the fittest. Stick to the handful of games that fully support your 8K, 288hz, ultra-wide. LOL.

Note, I'm not saying high frames are BS. I'm saying SOME "super seers" are like SOME "super tasters", 99.99% full of... well... something... themselves? It's just tiresome. There are thousands of threads here, there, and everywhere explaining the hows and whys of BGS games being trapped at 60fps. It's not a secret. Yet, here you are...

Answer to whether the +60fps mods work. Well, yes. I've tried them. They work. Until they don't. You get a "more" stable +60fps, until it breaks something, likely cascading quest after quest.

@smr1957 - well, yeah, usually I'd move on, but sometimes I see a gourmand who can not possibly eat a cheeseburger and, well, I have a big mouth sometimes.

[smr1957]

Same here, kdodds! LOL!

[Perplex]

Originally posted by Ryezee:

dont listen to them they are like 30+ year olds who literally couldnt see above 60 fps if they tried, 60 fps to 120 or 144 fps is literally mind blowing in terms of the visual experience.

Yea in fast first person shoters and the like, but not in games like Skyrim.