As an Argonian, Legion or Stormcloak?

[Malsvir Ixen]

Neither side has really treated the Argonians well.

[Eternal President Uncle Slam]

Your character can reply to Ulfric? When asked why "insert race that isn't nord here" would join the storm cloaks. You can tell him Nords aren't the only race living in Skyrim. Makes sense to me. The Imperials can be hated by any race and can effect any race. Maybe your character is still pissed that the imperials tried to kill him/her or maybe they want to live in a free skyrim. There is also an old alliance between Dunmer, Nords, and Argonians from when the Akiviri Invaded, so its not that weird for an Argonian to team up with Nords against an abusive foreign army.

Also not all Argonians are connected to the hist or deify it. You can find examples of Argonians that worship the divines. Its also possible that you would fight the Imperials to preserve Talos worship.

If I were you I would be more worried about why your character acts completely insane. Runs everywhere, walks up to random people they have never met and asks for training, waits for days straight for shops to restock. Is an argonian in the stormcloaks that unimmersive? REALLY?? Do what is most enjoyable and gives you the most peace.

[Sabaithal]

Do neither? I always ignore the civil war questline because joining either side has some serious drawbacks for me.

[Ankou]

Escrito originalmente por Ivo:

In ESO, Argonians are allied with Nords, so the answer should be easy.
Nords despise foreign dictators, but aren't fully racist as the imperial propaganda machine would have you belive.

ESO's lore is:
1. Absolute garbage and the racial alliances only exist for the sake of MMO and made zero sense with the previously established story.

2. Technically taking place during a massive built-in retcon (Dragon Break) so no one could quite recall exactly what the events of the 'game' were once it ended. (Zenimax/Bethesda did this so the game could be considered canon but also segregated from the main games and explain why none of it's garbage plot shows up in games set 800 years later.)

3. Set 1,000 years ago by Skyrim and, because prior 2 reasons, it can safely assumed to be "forgotten." Argonians and nords do not remember being allies, as evidenced by 'lizards' being 2nd class citizens in Skyrim.

4. By the time the TES games are set, the dunmer - 3rd member of that alliance, are using argonians as slaves. Should the argonians support them also because this dead alliance no one remembers?

tl:dr - ESO's lore is best ignored outside the context of ESO. It's lore is tangentially related to the main games at best.


And as a whole yeah, how argonians are treated varies wildly from nord to nord. But, player character aside, stormcloaks almost universally treat them poorly and with disrespect, Ulfric's own city being the worst.
Like I said, that doesn't mean an individual argonian wouldn't still support them but Ulfic does not care about them or want them in Skyrim.

[Sabaithal]

Yeah, ESO may as well be non-cannon. It wasn't even developed by Bethesda game studios. Its also an MMO which makes it inherently crap.

[alexander_dougherty]

Escrito originalmente por Ankou:

Escrito originalmente por Ivo:

In ESO, Argonians are allied with Nords, so the answer should be easy.
Nords despise foreign dictators, but aren't fully racist as the imperial propaganda machine would have you belive.

ESO's lore is:
1. Absolute garbage and the racial alliances only exist for the sake of MMO and made zero sense with the previously established story.

2. Technically taking place during a massive built-in retcon (Dragon Break) so no one could quite recall exactly what the events of the 'game' were once it ended. (Zenimax/Bethesda did this so the game could be considered canon but also segregated from the main games and explain why none of it's garbage plot shows up in games set 800 years later.)

3. Set 1,000 years ago by Skyrim and, because prior 2 reasons, it can safely assumed to be "forgotten." Argonians and nords do not remember being allies, as evidenced by 'lizards' being 2nd class citizens in Skyrim.

4. By the time the TES games are set, the dunmer - 3rd member of that alliance, are using argonians as slaves. Should the argonians support them also because this dead alliance no one remembers?

1. yep, spot on. That particular alliance was done because those three races were left over, the other two alliances made sense, sort of, based on previous games, but not the Nord-Argonian-Dunmer alliance (Ebonheart pact if you must get technical).

2. Didn't know that, last I heard it was all non-canon.

3. The races in TES games have long memories, but they mostly recall the betrayals. So they would recall they were once allies, but only to demonise them for their betrayal later on. (basically all parties betrayed the others at some point, so they can all demonise the others)

4. Dunmer enslaved everyone who wandered into their lands, unless they were members of the Imperial government, as such nobody trusts the Dunmer..... or the Argonians, who do similar things in the Blackmarsh.


ESO has some good bits of lore, but if they are tied into the ESO plot ignore them, just remember the little bits of lore that are there for background feel.

[Valndrisa]

Escrito originalmente por Malsvir Ixen:

Escrito originalmente por Valndrisa:

Go with Stormcloak

Why? What's your reason?

I played as a Argonian and the Stormcloaks were pretty nice

[Disgruntled Cuttlefish]

As an Argonian, I chose neither and killed both randomly, they're all fascists.

[SpeedFreak1972]

thanks for digging up a year old thread to let us know ....