CTD When Entering Dead Man's Respite (solved, kinda)

[Frost274]

Hello, I'm having a bit of an issue with my game right now. So I'm doing the quest "Tending The Flames", and I need to go find King Olaf's Verse in Dead Man's Respite. I saved my game in front of the ruins, and every time I load it everything works fine. Whenever I try to enter the ruins however, the only thing that will happen is that it will wait for a few seconds and crash to my desktop. Also, I'm using mods in this game.

My Mod Load Order:
-Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch
-Climates Of Tamriel
-True Storms
-Wet and Cold
-Open Cities Skyrim
-Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul
-Immersive Citizens OSC Patch
-Better Horses
-Quality World Map
-Skyland Textures
-Enhanced Blood Textures
-Realistic Water Two
-Static Mesh Improvement
-Opening Scene Overhaul
-Stones Of Barenziah Quest Markers
-Realistic Ragdolls and Force
-Lamposts of Skyrim
-Belt-Fastened Quivers
-Rebalanced Level Lists
-Unleveled Items
-Rich Merchants of Skyrim
-Louder Nature

Is there anything I can do to fix the crashing that occurs when I try to enter the dungeon? Does anyone else have this issue or anything similar to it? Also, I do meet the system requirements, my mods are all updated, and my nvidia (GTX 1050ti) drivers are updated. If there is a fix, please let me know right away. Thanks!

[★Kelvy★]

Only one I see thay may have and issue is open cities and should be at bottom of load list.
Are you using LOOT to sort yout list.?

[Frost274]

There's an option to reorder your load order on the mod menu on SE, is that what you mean? Also, is there any good software that will let me check for any errors in my mods and stabilize my game?

[Daywalker]

watermods need to be last in the loadorder use loot to sort your loadings

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1918/?

[★Kelvy★]

LOOT
Wyre Bash
SSEEdit

LOOT: The Load Order Optimisation Tool
https://loot.github.io/
Setting the right load order for your TES IV: Oblivion, TES V: Skyrim, TES V: Skyrim Special Edition, Fallout 3, Fallout: New Vegas and Fallout 4 mods is a crucial

The other two through Nexus(actually all three)

LOOT - Load Order Optimisation Tool at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus ...
www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1918/
Nov 6, 2016 - Introduction LOOT is a plugin load order optimiser for TES IV: Oblivion, TES V: Skyrim, TES V: Skyrim Special Edition, Fallout 3, Fallout: New ..

Wrye Bash at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community
www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/6837
Dec 31, 2016 - Important: Wrye Bash needs developers. If you are familiar with the Python programming language, please consider helping with development.

SSEEdit at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community
www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/164/
Jump to download (manual) - xEdit 3.2 by ElminsterAU and SSEEdit Team Users are expected to use common sense, read previous posts, look through

[Frost274]

I just downloaded loot, it says that only my master files are dirty so I'm trying to clean those out right now. Thanks for the help!

[smr1957]

Use this guide for cleaning masters:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=818230170

[Frost274]

I cleaned all of my mods and plugins, I don't have anymore dirty ones, and I sorted my load order. I don't understand why it's only crashing at that specific dungeon. I can roam the overworld and go into other places just fine.

[smr1957]

Try saving (a hard save - not a quick or auto save) just before you enter the ruins and are at the entrance. Try to enter. If it crashes, load the save that you just made at the entrance and try to enter again. I've found in my game that this works when I get a crash upon trying to enter an area (though, of course, that does not necessarily mean it will work in your instance). Worth a try before moving on to other troubleshooting options.

[Frost274]

I tried doing that as well, it keeps crashing with hard saves and quick saves. I'm starting to think that the issue has something to do with my save file and not my mods. It's really weird too because it just used to crash almost instantly, but now it loads a few seconds longer before it crashes after I cleaned out all my mods and rearranged my load order.

[smr1957]

One more thing you can try (if you haven't already) - try turning aoutosave off and then try approach, hard save, and if crash, loading that last hard save.

[smr1957]

And one last thing before I hit the sack. You say that you cleaned all your mods - this is just something to be aware of (it applies to SSE, as well):

As regards LOOT telling you to clean mods other than the Masters (Update.esm, Dawnguard.esm, Hearthfires.esm, Dragronborn.esm), DO NOT clean ITMs (unless the mod author or a reliable forum regular says otherwise) as LOOT does not pick up whether these edits (ITMs) are necessary or not, and some mods require them to run correctly. Do, however, clean deleted references, as these may cause problems in your game.

See:
Advanced Tips : Memory, .Ini's and Myth Busting (v2.6) by Nazenn - http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/619573787397876592/
Note #2 - Cleaning Files With TES5Edit

EDIT:

Just one more thing - do you have a Bashed Patch? Skyrim does not merge levelled list on its own. This means that mod content in your game is missing or poorly managed, if you did not create a Bashed Patch for your game. Only mention this because I see two mods that affect levelled list.

Good luck - am headed off to bed (work tomorrow).

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[Frost274]

Oh, so you're saying that some of my mod content may be missing from my game because of the changes of my levelling list or something? Everything in the game works perfectly fine except this is the only place where it crashes. Which two mods do you see that affect the levelling list you were talking about?

[smr1957]

hi, just got home from work - this may not have anything to do with the crashes, and I'm only making an assumption based on reading those mods' description (what would be missing would be items affected by the leveling list changes).
-Rebalanced Level Lists
-Unleveled Items
Just mentioned that due to the way Skyrim handled levelled lists - which makes having a bashed patch necessary in some cases.

As to missing, that puts me in mind of another thing - validating files.

From pinned topic: Skyrim SE: Guides and Resources by Ilja
http://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/340412122413706606/ (which is very worthwhile - in fact, essential reading)

"Section 4. Looking for help
7. How to validate game files?
If you encounter problems and suspect that your game files are broken, then reinstalling the game is rarely needed. Try to validate your game files with cleared appcache folder first.

[SSE] How to verify integrity of game cache
http://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/1843493219431033688/ "

[★Kelvy★]

Sorry been laid up ewith the flu, have you fixed it yet if not list LOOT's load order first up' copy and paste it here (3 dots top right in loot).

[smr1957]

Originally posted by ★Kelvy★:

Sorry been laid up ewith the flu, have you fixed it yet if not list LOOT's load order first up' copy and paste it here (3 dots top right in loot).

Hey Kelvy, hope you're feeling better - thanks for checking in on this thread! Any additional help you can give Evan would be gratly appreciated.