Warhammer 40,000: Gladius - Relics of War

Warhammer 40,000: Gladius - Relics of War

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Hellektronic Jun 18, 2023 @ 1:08am
For all the people having crashing issues: (updated)
Here are some steps to take if your computer is having problems running Gladius.

1. Install/Reinstall latest Visual C++ (2015, 2017, 2019, 2022), both x64 and x86 versions.

2. Update to latest video card drivers from Nvidia/AMD, make sure GPU supports Vulkan. These drivers include Vulkan drivers.

3. Increase virtual memory paging file to about 4096 or more for extra RAM padding to prevent crashes.

4. Turn off any mods. Mods can use excessive amounts of RAM.

5. Verify game files.

6. Enable the the compatibility setting "Run this program as an administrator".

7. A. - Disable the Steam overlay.
-OR-
7. B. - Run the game without Steam by using the .exe, close Steam before. Super efficient, but be aware you'll have to install workshop mods manually in your My Documents Proxy Studios folder. Create a folder called "Mods" in the base Gladius folder, create a folder for each mod inside of it, put the files into the folder. You can then use the mods without Steam.

Another tip on Windows I suggest to counter excessive RAM usage is using the program RAMmap to empty RAM caches for all programs. This lowers my Steam and Windows memory usage like 20+%, it's very handy if you're getting crashes.

See, a recent update has drastically increased the amount of RAM the game uses, you'll have to really cut down on memory usage to avoid crashes, especially if you use mods. I think the game used to be 32 bit, now it's 64 bit, and it can use above 4 GBs of RAM to run (and will), potentially running over your amount of RAM and crashing.
Last edited by Hellektronic; Jul 1, 2023 @ 10:41pm
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Stormtempter Jun 18, 2023 @ 6:53am 
Interestingly enough, I can now make myself crash as well, lol. If I run Gladius+ and try to load a game, I"ll get [322122477 Exception Access Violation]. And crash to desktop. Switching the mod off, fixes things.

I'm guessing either a windows update or game permission was changed, and windows just locks the game out from the cpu or something. I haven't run in admin mode yet, I just shut off the mod, but I wanted to note it, since it fits the pattern and struggles you've been encountering.
TemplarGR Jun 18, 2023 @ 8:26am 
Or perhaps install Linux and run the native Linux version and forget all crashes. LOL
Migz - DH Jun 18, 2023 @ 10:12am 
Page file (virtual memory) is for system memory, not VRAM.
Hellektronic Jun 18, 2023 @ 12:26pm 
Originally posted by Migz - DH:
Page file (virtual memory) is for system memory, not VRAM.

Either way, it works, trust me. I don't know why. Tested thoroughly and confirmed.

Originally posted by Stormtempter:
Interestingly enough, I can now make myself crash as well, lol. If I run Gladius+ and try to load a game, I"ll get [322122477 Exception Access Violation]. And crash to desktop. Switching the mod off, fixes things.

I'm guessing either a windows update or game permission was changed, and windows just locks the game out from the cpu or something. I haven't run in admin mode yet, I just shut off the mod, but I wanted to note it, since it fits the pattern and struggles you've been encountering.

I've tried full admin mode, it doesn't change anything... but I've also gotten this Access Violation error once or twice in addition to the VK ERRORs. I tried treating these crashes as an access violation, but no success. Ultimately, I found it comes down to memory. Mods like Gladius+ now take like 3 times the original amount of memory to run without crashing... so I guess people like us can't play them until they (Proxy Studios) fix whatever is broken with memory allocation.

Theoretically if you raise your paging file high enough, you might still be able to play them... but I'm not going to bother. I shouldn't have to.
Last edited by Hellektronic; Jun 18, 2023 @ 2:45pm
Hellektronic Jun 19, 2023 @ 8:49pm 
Bump a lump
Stardustfire Jun 20, 2023 @ 5:18am 
3 shoud only do something to underequiped Potatos with only 4GB Main Memory. a halfway modern desktop machine has enove memory to never thinking about the swapfile. one of the good changes win10 brought.
7 i dont see as helpful, if that helps you, you have a much bigger problem somewhere else in your system that onyl get fakehealed by the BIOS Update.
Stormtempter Jun 20, 2023 @ 5:44am 
I get that Exception Access Violation error with Gladius+ enabled, the other mod (more map options) is fine. I have 32gb of main memory, my video card is 12gb. it only started happening after the last time I updated win11
Hellektronic Jun 20, 2023 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by Stardustfire:
3 shoud only do something to underequiped Potatos with only 4GB Main Memory. a halfway modern desktop machine has enove memory to never thinking about the swapfile. one of the good changes win10 brought.
7 i dont see as helpful, if that helps you, you have a much bigger problem somewhere else in your system that onyl get fakehealed by the BIOS Update.

Nope, my computer runs everything other than this one game. I have 6 GBs of VRAM, 8 GBs main RAM, and a six core processor. There's literally no reason it should crash. Upgrading the BIOS did in fact help fix it, because it added a lot of new options to the CPU that weren't there before, making it run overall better. There's no such thing as a "fakeheal", only a placebo effect... and the game not crashing isn't a placebo effect.

Originally posted by Stormtempter:
I get that Exception Access Violation error with Gladius+ enabled, the other mod (more map options) is fine. I have 32gb of main memory, my video card is 12gb. it only started happening after the last time I updated win11

It's something wrong with the game I'm pretty sure, not your computer. Even the people who can run it (which I can now) see it overusing system resources. Environment mods crash immediately on starting a new world or loading a game for me.
Last edited by Hellektronic; Jun 20, 2023 @ 12:11pm
TemplarGR Jun 20, 2023 @ 12:24pm 
Originally posted by Hellektronic:
Originally posted by Stardustfire:
3 shoud only do something to underequiped Potatos with only 4GB Main Memory. a halfway modern desktop machine has enove memory to never thinking about the swapfile. one of the good changes win10 brought.
7 i dont see as helpful, if that helps you, you have a much bigger problem somewhere else in your system that onyl get fakehealed by the BIOS Update.

Nope, my computer runs everything other than this one game. I have 6 GBs of VRAM, 8 GBs main RAM, and a six core processor. There's literally no reason it should crash. Upgrading the BIOS did in fact help fix it, because it added a lot of new options to the CPU that weren't there before, making it run overall better. There's no such thing as a "fakeheal", only a placebo effect... and the game not crashing isn't a placebo effect.

Originally posted by Stormtempter:
I get that Exception Access Violation error with Gladius+ enabled, the other mod (more map options) is fine. I have 32gb of main memory, my video card is 12gb. it only started happening after the last time I updated win11

It's something wrong with the game I'm pretty sure, not your computer. Even the people who can run it (which I can now) see it overusing system resources. Environment mods crash immediately on starting a new world or loading a game for me.

8GBs of main RAM is pathetic these days. Especially considering you have 6gbs of VRAM.... You should add some RAM.
Jey Jun 20, 2023 @ 12:27pm 
Originally posted by Hellektronic:
Even the people who can run it (which I can now) see it overusing system resources.
I don't.
I'd say there is likely something still borked in your installation.
Hellektronic Jun 20, 2023 @ 1:01pm 
Originally posted by TemplarGR:

8GBs of main RAM is pathetic these days. Especially considering you have 6gbs of VRAM.... You should add some RAM.

It's from 2019, never upgraded. But considering this game ran completely fine without any adjustments with any mod about a year or two ago, it shouldn't matter.

Originally posted by Jey:
I don't.
I'd say there is likely something still borked in your installation.

I uninstalled and reinstalled the game 4 times and deleted every mod I ever owned. The only thing left would be to reinstall Windows 10, and I'm not downloading an entire OS iso just to play Gladius.

Besides, I got it to work. Just not memory intensive mods.
Last edited by Hellektronic; Jun 20, 2023 @ 1:02pm
Hellektronic Jun 20, 2023 @ 5:02pm 
Originally posted by TemplarGR:
You should add some RAM.

That's actually not a bad idea, RAM now is probably better than the kind they had cutting edge in 2019.

It just really disappoints me that this surfaced from an update... I used to be able to play Gladius+ as recently as the Adeptus Mechanicus update, but something weird happened after that from an update. And apparently my computer doesn't like it. I'm not the only one, either. But if you're not having problems, be thankful, this is hell.
Stardustfire Jun 20, 2023 @ 9:32pm 
as another side note to 3: hope you done that swapfile on a mchanical HDD, not an SSD or even M2. if the swapfile is really heavy used you masacre SSD/M2 with it.
Hellektronic Jun 20, 2023 @ 9:50pm 
I doubt 4096 mbs is going to massacre the flash memory of a SSD. With any hope it wont even need to be used 99.5% of the time. It's mostly just padding in case of potential crashes during the 1.5 seconds at the beginning of a match when it loads the world. For some reason this game uses a ♥♥♥♥ ton of memory compared to what it used to require. It's bad allocation.

Originally posted by Jey:
I don't.
I'd say there is likely something still borked in your installation.

So using 3 GBs of RAM sitting idle at the main menu isn't overusing system resources?
Last edited by Hellektronic; Jun 21, 2023 @ 10:44am
Stardustfire Jun 21, 2023 @ 8:03am 
Ok so dont believe what a Onsite PC Technican tells you, set your SSD to the other SSD Corpses i seen so far because swapfile kicked in (or other funny massive writeing/rewriteing actions) , its not matter how big your swapfile gets, the danger is that it is used on a SSD. try to read a little how SSD works, what SSDs dont take very positve for there Lifetime, and what a Swapfile does (massivly) ...
SMART and DST are not the Things you shoud bother about with a SSD (both are mostly simulated at them) what you shoud fear is wearlevel, something most Test Programms not even tell you.
Last edited by Stardustfire; Jun 21, 2023 @ 8:05am
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