Warhammer 40,000: Gladius - Relics of War

Warhammer 40,000: Gladius - Relics of War

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Questionable Jun 15, 2023 @ 10:35pm
Warp Talons, Description vs Function
The description of the Warp Talons says that they "emerge from the warp" to attack their foes, sounding more like they should be teleporting rather than jetpacking like Raptors or Assault Marines. So maybe it'd be cool some time to replace their jetpack ability with a limited range teleport with the same effect?
Or just change the description so it says they're using their jump packs :B
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Hellektronic Jun 15, 2023 @ 10:50pm 
Do you know what "the warp" is? That's where Chaos and daemons come from. It's a hell-like dimension that the races use for FTL travel.
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Questionable Jun 15, 2023 @ 11:04pm 
Yes I'm fully aware. The description isn't saying that they come from the warp, its saying that's how they engage enemies, tearing through the warp to basically teleport amidst foes when in game they use a jump-pack animation/sfx.
Hellektronic Jun 15, 2023 @ 11:27pm 
They do fly in combat like Chaos raptors, that's how they fight... I'm not sure how their ability to enter the warp comes into the picture though. I think they can just be held in reserve and teleport onto a battlefield, nothing nearly as impressive as the lore suggests.
TemplarGR Jun 16, 2023 @ 4:56am 
All Chaos forces emerge from the warp dude....
Stardustfire Jun 16, 2023 @ 6:19am 
well its a messup description, not even GWs Fault, the devs are just more bad than GW (if that is possible) in 40k Lore. the Description of the Autarch for Example says he is a Psyker, he is not more Psyker than the Eldar Guard next door (yes i know all Eldar are latent Psykers, but the Autarch is not a Psyuser, he is someone who learned in all Aspect Shrines)
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Hellektronic Jun 16, 2023 @ 8:53am 
Originally posted by Stardustfire:
well its a messup description, not even GWs Fault, the devs are just more bad than GW (if that is possible) in 40k Lore.

I think you're getting carried away. Warp Talons do all of these things in the lore, so it's not a mistake.
Questionable Jun 16, 2023 @ 2:40pm 
Alright since this seems to be flying over everyone's heads I'm gonna post the description of the Warp Talons verbatim:

"When a pack of Warp Talons emerges from the warp, it appears to those on the battlefield below as if daemonic warriors have burst out from nothingness into fiery, vengeful life. Like the stuff of nightmares, they plummet downwards in an explosion of warp fire, tearing into the foe with murderous intent."

What this is describing is a squad of Warp Talons jumping into an enemy formation, literally emerging *from the warp* appearing as if having *burst out from nothingness*. This is clearly describing a teleportation strike, not a jump-pack strike.

The in-game ability being their jump-pack which shows them hovering across the battlefield before dropping down rather mundanely into whatever open space they can fit.

This is the gameplay vs description incongruity. I was just suggesting, in a manner intended to be friendly, that either the description of the talons be altered or the graphics of their "jump" attack being changed to be more accurate to the description. A.k.a. a teleport with the range of the normal jump attack with the same blinding effect. As with other teleport abilities they would still be subject to overwatch attacks. It would just LOOK cooler :D
And no longer bother that autistic itch in my brain when the textual description of something is out of synch with its actual appearance.
Questionable Jun 16, 2023 @ 2:48pm 
Actually I'll do you one even better, here's the description of the Warp Talons "jump" attack:

"Warpflame Strike
Free action
Consumes movement
Cooldown: 0/3 turns
Range: 1 tiles

Flies across obstacles to the target tile and blinds adjacent enemy infantry and monstrous creatures.

+1 movement
+1 movement max
Blind (1 turn)
-50% accuracy

Though the lesion they slice in the fabric of realspace seals over as soon as the hunting pack has passed through, the mind-shattering nature of their attack is usually enough to stun their prey into inactivity. This moment of awestruck hesitation is often fatal, for the hellishly sharp claws of the Warp Talons part heads from necks and limbs from torsos as the hunters hurtle into the ranks of the foe."

There it is, undeniable evidence of the incongruity between the descriptive function and the actual function of the warp talon's jump jet ability.

Thanks for listening to my ted talk :))
Last edited by Questionable; Jun 16, 2023 @ 2:49pm
Hellektronic Jun 16, 2023 @ 5:40pm 
Eh, it's kinda arguing semantics. Doesn't really matter when it comes to gameplay.

But... I think their jump jets use warp energy, because they're half daemon. I don't think their ability to teleport in tabletop really has an effect like blinding, either.
Last edited by Hellektronic; Jun 16, 2023 @ 5:42pm
Questionable Jun 16, 2023 @ 6:23pm 
True it doesn't matter but it would just be a cool/nice thing to do if they have the spare time, like when they increased the model size of the Malanthropes
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Date Posted: Jun 15, 2023 @ 10:35pm
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