First turn based Warhammer 40k game?

[IGuy]

I'm sorry what?!
Are you forgetting Dawn of War Dark Crusade??

[Wandering Mania]

Actually the 'first' turn based WH40k game was WH40k. You know the tabletop hobby game that used dice, rule books called 'Codex", and models that you put together and painted, and it cost an arm and a leg to get into.

[IGuy]

Ahh yes. I was thinking in terms of videgames but you are definetly right.

[Bullitmagnit]

Table top still costs an arm and a leg and alot more and you get less per boxed set but still fun to play.

[BNTYHNTR98]

FINAL LIBERATION

https://www.gog.com/game/final_liberation_warhammer_epic_40000

CHAOS GATE

https://www.gog.com/game/warhammer_40000_chaos_gate

SPACE CRUSADE

https://www.abandonwaredos.com/abandonware-game.php?abandonware=Space+Crusade&gid=1214

SPACE HULK

https://store.steampowered.com/app/816090/Space_Hulk_Deathwing__Enhanced_Edition/

RITES OF WAR

https://www.gog.com/game/warhammer_40000_rites_of_war

ARMAGEDDON / ARMAGEDDON THE ORCS

https://store.steampowered.com/app/312370/Warhammer_40000_Armageddon/

SANCTUS REACH

https://store.steampowered.com/app/502370/Warhammer_40000_Sanctus_Reach/


Thes Are All a few of the games ive played over the years that are Turn based Strategy.

But for this case i would say that GLADIUS isnt the first strategy but the first to try warhammer 40k in a 4x Civilization Style setting but by no means the first strategy set in the 40k universe.

O and to the OP DAWN OF WAR was a RTS series not a turnbased but still a great Game.

[Wandering Mania]

Originally posted by BNTYHNTR98:

O and to the OP DAWN OF WAR was a RTS series not a turnbased but still a great Game.

The campaign of Dark Crusade and Soulstorm are TBS/RTS hybrids. Kinda like what Total War: Shogun 2, TW: Rome, TW: Rome 2, and TW: Warhammer 1 & 2, are. Turn based over map, with small RTS battles for plots.

But with Total War you could create more than one army to take plots on the 'over map', and you only had what troops you brought. With Dark Crusade and Soulstorm you only had your hero and every battle you started, was a regular skirmish match.

[Stardustfire]

Ah Chaos Gate, good old times ("Come to Chaos" , "We bring your Death"). Space Crusade and Space Hulk are both only TT to PC adaptions as well (and the first Space Hulk PC game
(the MSDOS one) was the most turn based of all in the Series of PC Adaptions) (i still have Space Crusade (made by MB by the way and deployed with Citadel Figurines, not made by GW itself) and its Expansions somewhere here in my Bulk of TT games :) )

[Someguyinhere]

The tabletop is so overpriced, its utterly ridiculous.

[Wandering Mania]

Originally posted by Someguyinhere:

The tabletop is so overpriced, its utterly ridiculous.

I remember back when I was a kid I got a 'Space Marine Starter Kit' that had like 2 squads of models, a few basic paints and some brushes (I think). That was about $200 in the 90's. I can't imagine what something like that would cost now, if they even still make those kits. But it would have to be a lot more.
So yeah, it's always been a major wallet hit.

[Someguyinhere]

Originally posted by Wandering Mania:

Originally posted by Someguyinhere:

The tabletop is so overpriced, its utterly ridiculous.

I remember back when I was a kid I got a 'Space Marine Starter Kit' that had like 2 squads of models, a few basic paints and some brushes (I think). That was about $200 in the 90's. I can't imagine what something like that would cost now, if they even still make those kits. But it would have to be a lot more.
So yeah, it's always been a major wallet hit.

Let's just say that $200 wouldn't get you a squad let alone two.

[Stardustfire]

my TT Armies are mostly out of times when they where made of thin, with the white iron there comes the first big pricejump (yeah sure, white iron is much more valueable than thin, try to convince someone who dont got his first job in the metal industry) and now you pay for plastic higher numbers in € than you got on the pricetacks with you old currency ( that was exchanged 2 for 1€) for more thin modells in the same boxes...

[//]

Originally posted by BNTYHNTR98:

FINAL LIBERATION

https://www.gog.com/game/final_liberation_warhammer_epic_40000

CHAOS GATE

https://www.gog.com/game/warhammer_40000_chaos_gate

SPACE CRUSADE

https://www.abandonwaredos.com/abandonware-game.php?abandonware=Space+Crusade&gid=1214

SPACE HULK

https://store.steampowered.com/app/816090/Space_Hulk_Deathwing__Enhanced_Edition/

RITES OF WAR

https://www.gog.com/game/warhammer_40000_rites_of_war

ARMAGEDDON / ARMAGEDDON THE ORCS

https://store.steampowered.com/app/312370/Warhammer_40000_Armageddon/

SANCTUS REACH

https://store.steampowered.com/app/502370/Warhammer_40000_Sanctus_Reach/


Thes Are All a few of the games ive played over the years that are Turn based Strategy.

But for this case i would say that GLADIUS isnt the first strategy but the first to try warhammer 40k in a 4x Civilization Style setting but by no means the first strategy set in the 40k universe.

O and to the OP DAWN OF WAR was a RTS series not a turnbased but still a great Game.

I was wondering if anyone has Final Liberation....I want to get it but it says it only works on Windows Vista, 7 or 8.....I have Windows 10. Thanks for the hookup to GOG by the way! ;)

[Tossblade]

Originally posted by Wandering Mania:

Originally posted by Someguyinhere:

The tabletop is so overpriced, its utterly ridiculous.

I remember back when I was a kid I got a 'Space Marine Starter Kit' that had like 2 squads of models, a few basic paints and some brushes (I think). That was about $200 in the 90's. I can't imagine what something like that would cost now, if they even still make those kits. But it would have to be a lot more.
So yeah, it's always been a major wallet hit.

Infantry squads are 30-60$
Vehicles 40-80$(depending on size it seems)
Starter kits for factions are around 100$ and you get a few squads, a hero, maybe a small vehicle
starter kits with rules and all are like 200$ but you get two small forces

Its expensive but not that terrible if you compare it to a hobby like cars lol.

[Wandering Mania]

Originally posted by Tossblade:

Infantry squads are 30-60$
Vehicles 40-80$(depending on size it seems)
Starter kits for factions are around 100$ and you get a few squads, a hero, maybe a small vehicle
starter kits with rules and all are like 200$ but you get two small forces

Its expensive but not that terrible if you compare it to a hobby like cars lol.

Yeah, now that I think about it, the kit also included a land speeder, and a codex. But at least it ain't $400, which is what inflation from the 90's to today would have made it.

So it actually became cheaper over the last 30 years, nice to know. But still with 'the plague' and all, getting back into it would seem like a waste, because one would still need someone to play it with, nuff' said.

[Fnord]

Originally posted by Wandering Mania:

Originally posted by Tossblade:

Infantry squads are 30-60$
Vehicles 40-80$(depending on size it seems)
Starter kits for factions are around 100$ and you get a few squads, a hero, maybe a small vehicle
starter kits with rules and all are like 200$ but you get two small forces

Its expensive but not that terrible if you compare it to a hobby like cars lol.

Yeah, now that I think about it, the kit also included a land speeder, and a codex. But at least it ain't $400, which is what inflation from the 90's to today would have made it.

So it actually became cheaper over the last 30 years, nice to know. But still with 'the plague' and all, getting back into it would seem like a waste, because one would still need someone to play it with, nuff' said.

Sadly no :( I think you're just misremembering the prices. In 1998, the year I started, the starter box for 40k set you back 60€ (converted from local currency, but it should be in the same ballpark in other parts of the world). One of the start collecting boxes for a faction was also 60€, and for space marines, that would give you 10 Tactical marines, 5 terminators, a landspeeder and 3 bikes, plus some ruins. Then there were the bigger mail order boxes, which came with a lot more, and sometimes a codex. They would vary a bit in price.

[Wandering Mania]

Originally posted by Fnord:

Originally posted by Wandering Mania:

Yeah, now that I think about it, the kit also included a land speeder, and a codex. But at least it ain't $400, which is what inflation from the 90's to today would have made it.

So it actually became cheaper over the last 30 years, nice to know. But still with 'the plague' and all, getting back into it would seem like a waste, because one would still need someone to play it with, nuff' said.

Sadly no :( I think you're just misremembering the prices. In 1998, the year I started, the starter box for 40k set you back 60€ (converted from local currency, but it should be in the same ballpark in other parts of the world). One of the start collecting boxes for a faction was also 60€, and for space marines, that would give you 10 Tactical marines, 5 terminators, a landspeeder and 3 bikes, plus some ruins. Then there were the bigger mail order boxes, which came with a lot more, and sometimes a codex. They would vary a bit in price.

Well that's the beauty of regional pricing. For me, in the US, at about that time, it was $200 then, and from what others have said seemingly the same now. So where you are located it was a lot cheaper. And I may, or may not, have gotten the codex outside of that kit as a individual purchase. But my memory is quit shoddy from that whole time frame