Is there a good way to grind the 'There Is Only War' achievement?

[BlackDragon]

I've been making good headway on the Achievements lately - including knocking out some of the 'Impossible Difficulty' ones - and after finally finding a friend who's happy to join me for Multiplayer, I've gotten all of THOSE taken care of as well. I would, at this point, be very optimistic about actually 100%ing this game... except for that ONE achievement. 'There is Only War'. AKA "Seriously?! WH40K edition." 40K would be a LOT of kills to ask for, even if it counted individual models like the one for offing Chaos Cultists does, but it's actually forty thousand UNITS. Good GRIEF. I'm still a bit shy of a TENTH of that, after more than 150 hours of playtime. So, at this rate, it'll apparently take me 1500 hours to finish it.

But... I recently noticed that a whopping 0.9% of the player-base already have it. I mean, sure, that's not a HUGE percentage, but it's higher than a bunch of other, way easier (or at least FASTER) ones, and I don't just mean the ones from the latest DLC. Which makes me wonder if there's some way to grind it super-fast that I'm just unaware of? >_>

[L'Oreal]

It should take roughly 2000 hrs.

Otherwise you could easily mod the game a bit to remove all forests/ruins and fill the map with a million Cultists (the easiest neutral to deal with). Should even be easier now that you can start yourself at T10.

This will turn the game into a tedious chore, however, and forever suck all the fun out of it.

[TemplarGR]

Don't bother with achievements in this game, not worth it. Most are not attainable in normal gameplay unless you literally have no life. If it really bothers you to not have 100% Gladius, you can use other means to unlock them all at once.....

[Howell-Barrex Soldier Ja'kala]

Mod the world gen to spawn neutrals in every tile, neutrals to only be Devil Lairs, Devil Lairs to spawn a new devil every turn, and the starting unit of the faction of your choice to kill devils in one turn

[Jey]

Originally posted by BlackDragon:

there's some way to grind it super-fast that I'm just unaware of? >_>

Not "super-fast" but decently fast, yeah.

Get the biggest map.
Set wildlife to highest.
Put no CPU.
Bonus:
- Put starting tech to T10
- Put starting resources/growth to very high
- Put cost/upkeep to very low

Murder the wildlife.

I did on a modded map (4 times as big as a huge map), and I got around ~2k kills per map I think?
It takes a few hours, so if you really grind it, I'd say 100h should be enough to get the achievement. But I found it really dizzying, so you probably don't want to do it all in a row.

My personal favourite to do it was SM with Stomravens.
It's fast, it OHKO almost anything when it has the stormbolters + the bolter tactics, and it regens 3 HP/turn.

[BlackDragon]

Originally posted by Jey:

Originally posted by BlackDragon:

there's some way to grind it super-fast that I'm just unaware of? >_>

Not "super-fast" but decently fast, yeah.

Get the biggest map.
Set wildlife to highest.
Put no CPU.
Bonus:
- Put starting tech to T10
- Put starting resources/growth to very high
- Put cost/upkeep to very low

Murder the wildlife.

I did on a modded map (4 times as big as a huge map), and I got around ~2k kills per map I think?
It takes a few hours, so if you really grind it, I'd say 100h should be enough to get the achievement. But I found it really dizzying, so you probably don't want to do it all in a row.

My personal favourite to do it was SM with Stomravens.
It's fast, it OHKO almost anything when it has the stormbolters + the bolter tactics, and it regens 3 HP/turn.

Interesting! I actually had an alternative idea, though I'm not sure if it'll work. Basically, mod Chaos so that they are ONLY capable of producing Chaos Cultists. Then play against them on a medium-sized map with minimum water and environmental clutter (so there's plenty of space for cities), probably as the Ta'u, with both you and them set to the highest 'rank'. While they spam cities, you build your own into a fortress with multiple staggered gun-lines. Anything that comes near gets obliterated by overwatch.

Once they've found you, and you've weathered the initial assault, you'll basically be able to idle as a steady stream of Cultists walk into your line of fire every turn. Maybe set up a simple script to click the 'next turn' button at regular intervals and go grab a drink?

...but would it actually work? >_>

[Bullshat]

Originally posted by BlackDragon:

Interesting! I actually had an alternative idea, though I'm not sure if it'll work. Basically, mod Chaos so that they are ONLY capable of producing Chaos Cultists. Then play against them on a medium-sized map with minimum water and environmental clutter (so there's plenty of space for cities), probably as the Ta'u, with both you and them set to the highest 'rank'. While they spam cities, you build your own into a fortress with multiple staggered gun-lines. Anything that comes near gets obliterated by overwatch.

Once they've found you, and you've weathered the initial assault, you'll basically be able to idle as a steady stream of Cultists walk into your line of fire every turn. Maybe set up a simple script to click the 'next turn' button at regular intervals and go grab a drink? :pint:

...but would it actually work? >_>

I suppose if you're willing to mod the game in order to grind the achievement, I'm thinking you could make your own units to be impossibly strong (and your [enemy faction] units impossibly cheap!), maybe by modifying the Skitarii Rad Saturation to effect all enemy units in 30 radius with 999 damage per turn and then leaving an autoclicker working your next turn button while you get a good nights sleep while the enemy keeps endlessly swarming into your instant death zone

[Jey]

Originally posted by BlackDragon:

...but would it actually work? >_>

If you automate it, sure.
But:
- It'll be slower than doing it actively, because waiting for units to be created and sent to you is slow.
- if you're at this point of not wanting to play to get the achievement, just cheat it directly. No need for elaborate scheme.

[glythe]

Originally posted by BlackDragon:

. Which makes me wonder if there's some way to grind it super-fast that I'm just unaware of? >_>

Play with the settings that generate the most wildlife on the largest possible map.

[pi73r]

I'm a fan of 100% the games but if an achievement is a total grind and you will do nothing but grinding it for hundreds of hours tgat's just stupid.